Windows Legacy Server - windows-10-11

Windows Legacy Server

Operating Systems / windows-10-11

you add a start menu to windows 8. then u add walmart brand aero. then u add ol popcnt's insane system requirements.

Before 29/09/2021 22:00

new channel moment (edited)

new os moment

When 11 actually gets released, we gotta renamed this to #worst-microshaft-os and rename the one with that name already to #winblows-10

probably

I hope not but maybe

Scamdisk

When 11 actually gets released, we gotta renamed this to #worst-microshaft-os and rename the one with that name already to #winblows-10

if 11 is bad I do

17:46

but we don't know

17:47

very early beta

What we have is a early build with some shit missing

17:47

Because no cherry hill

Ximonite

very early beta

so basically regular stable 10

Well we can't judge it that much yet

this looks better than the 8 one at least https://preview.redd.it/hanfeonigg571.png?width=840&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b2bb2a86f40daf7efa726410ce65ac9cba543a0

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it's a early ass build that doesn't signify the quality of the final product

can't deny that

yahane

oobe crashed so i had to do tricks to get it to work

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17:49

But logon looks the same as normal 10, yes

what if I install windows 11 on real PC lol

Deleted User

what if I install windows 11 on real PC lol

Do it, unless you get the TPM error which then you will have to deploy

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Also this build has no timebomb

17:52

seemnly

now I am curious

17:52

does this support upgrading?

Yes, if you have a CPU that's supported by setup or some shti

I guess I'm gonna try installing Win11 on a VM

17:53

if I have TPM 2.0

but you could use an older setup or dism deployment to bypass

yes

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TPM not CPU 4HEad

4HEad

17:53

it's different

6th gen

well TPM is a function thing

I have a 4th gen Core i7 - 4600u

vmware works with windows 11

Haswell

it's hardware on the motherboard

even vmware tools

well me with a ivy bridge

17:54

trollol

HK416Disgust

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I legitimately can't tell if you're joking or not about TPM

could be bypassed i think

17:55

With dism or a older setup, idk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18qG936dH_Eoq51rzdDx5WahrcRcvfzqN/view?usp=sharing

21996.1.210529-1541.co_release_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_en-us.iso

17:55

oamd's mirror

17:55

in case anyone wants to try Win11 out

17:56

I am downloading from fucking mega rn

... that doesnt work anymore

fucking hell

Scamdisk

... that doesnt work anymore

how?

Too many people downloaded

i'm downloading with megabasterd

17:56

a bit slow

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here is the Mega link

was at 15mbps a bit earlier

17:56

i hope i don't get banned

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17:57

1.2 mb/s is like my internet's peak

17:57

same here

Suddenly works again

17:57

The GDrive link

great!

17:58

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downloading with the mega link cause it downloads faster than ISP speed with the desktop app

idk how reliable it is tho

17:58

But iirc someone is uploading it to IA

Deleted User

same here

17:59

I guess we both have slow internet

17:59

well to be fair for me it's cuz I am in a small city

17:59

Same here

gdrive aint working

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17:59

Still working for me

yeah for you

17:59

but for me it's overquota'd

18:00

can you send that link

desktop app op

18:00

no quota

the mega one?

yea

so, whats new in 11?

lodocus

so, whats new in 11?

rounded edges!

yea thats expected

lodocus

so, whats new in 11?

New taskbar that's centered by default but you can revert

18:00

new oobe

18:00

and a broken one at that, for me at least

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18:01

the direct link

this is always what happens when there's a new leak

18:01

it leaks on mega

18:01

everyone's overquota'd except 1 person

you can revert

18:01

yoshiwoke

person reuploads on gdrive

18:02

gdrive gets overquota'd

hope I don't hit quota

18:02

and then?

and then nothing

18:02

you have to wait

18:02

and by then the fun is over

Yandex.Disk thingamajig

Deleted User

hope I don't hit quota

quota is 5gb iirc

or Dropbox

if you haven't been downloading other stuff with mega, then you won't hit quota

Well it's Windows 11 ofc everyone is going nuts about it

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18:02

damn

messenger

compared to 10 it looks good

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18:03

i have a static ip

18:03

so

lodocus

compared to 10 it looks good

I highly agree

lodocus

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with the blur it makes it look better

Acrylic design thing

i just want to install it on my ryzen

Vruh 2

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desktop app doesn't have quota

18:03

I said many times

it does

no

Yeah, just uncenter your taskbar if you want to

18:04

Because it's possible

I donwnloaded like 40gb of windows updates through mega once and had no issue (and I don't pay for mega pro) (edited)

I like the taskbar anyhow

18:04

what the guy that invented mega quota deserves

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18:04

if it's on the left or in the center or on the right

Deleted User

what the guy that invented mega quota deserves

Also what the guy that invented google drive user download quota deserves

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honestly idc if I have to install a program to download better

Deleted User

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hol up is that left aligned title bar

and you guys are already doing that I see

18:06

IDM (edited)

we all have idm or fdm for everything else

Deleted User

hol up is that left aligned title bar

Nope

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18:06

weird

18:06

it's just that IDM aligns it on the left

you know what would make windows 11 look better

18:06

center aligned text

what?

it wouldn't look so bad

18:07

with the rounded edges

Vruh 2

center aligned text

I agree

Vruh 2

center aligned text

HELL NO

18:07

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18:07

Two types of opinions on that right here

what

18:07

it's not like you'll be able to mega modify the system to look like windows 7

18:07

so it doesn't matter

what if you can tho

18:08

bruhmoment

it would look better with center aligned text

nope

Ximonite

what if you can tho

it would end up looking more like piss (edited)

windows 11 download done for me

left align for life

right align when

right alignment for life

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KGSiCmAAk8IkdV24Tph-HtVNS9UUGOKs/view?usp=sharing

21996.1.210529-1541.co_release_CLIENT_CONSUMER_x64FRE_en-us.iso

18:08

Another reupload

Vruh 2

right align when

you can do that in linux

Scamdisk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KGSiCmAAk8IkdV24Tph-HtVNS9UUGOKs/view?usp=sharing

it still doesn't workj

18:08

i click download anyway and it does nothing

Chrome

MEGA

Vruh 2

it still doesn't workj

make a copy

Sometimes GDrive does this on gecko browsers

i wonder when the rtm 11 is gonna release

2029 /s

2023?

the Door guy

2023?

It would be that date if it was developed correctly

18:10

plot twist: they were developing it for long time

kinda wanna install 11 ngl

imma upgrade to it and use it for the lolz

i have 10 installed so i have nothing to lose valvenewsMega

valvenewsMega

and very little to gain

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11 is based on 10 which is based on 8 which is based on 7 which is based on vista

2

does dark mode exist

18:11

if yes then it'll look potentially good

yes

Scamdisk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KGSiCmAAk8IkdV24Tph-HtVNS9UUGOKs/view?usp=sharing

should i install this on real hardware

18:11

im gonna do it

Someone already did

18:11

I think

18:11

NT 6 is based on NT 5 which is based on NT 4 which is based on NT 3

Do it anyway

yeah

Ximonite pinned a message to this channel. 15/06/2021 18:11

inb4 in the final build it's not bypassable, but i think it might be

how is the wallpaper?

Michael

should i install this on real hardware

i'll do it

18:12

i'm gonna be livestreaming it on another discord soz

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18:13

only 21%

Vruh 2

i'm gonna be livestreaming it on another discord soz

dont know why i am asking this but, camera or capture card?

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the Door guy

dont know why i am asking this but, camera or capture card?

discord

Vruh 2

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That actually looks quite good

it does

18:14

wow

if it wasn't for that large menu

imagine SIB on 11

It's trending on Twitter lmao, that's how much people shit over it

Vruh 2

discord

i meant as in how are you gonna record it (edited)

discord live streaming

The menu reminds me of the start menu in something like Linux Mint (edited)

Vruh 2

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how you fix taskbar

18:15

Settings

not my photo

18:15

that's a photo i found on betawiki

But it's in settings, yes

fr?

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Deleted User

fr?

wait what

oh god

i was planning to install it on a core 2 duo LOL

do i actually need secureboot

i guess we'll see

I am in BIOS mode hope it doesn't apply to me

Install Menu really reminds me of MacOS for some reason.

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i guess we'll see

i dont even have any other uefi systems to install it on

create new partition

18:17

install on main

ApertureSketch

Install Menu really reminds me of MacOS for some reason.

Win10X throwback

vmware does uefi

Vruh 2

install on main

nah it will be funnier to run it on a 15 year old core 2 duo laptop

18:17

im making a video of this for my youtube

i guess so

18:17

i have a c2d laptop laying around but

18:17

eh

is it uwp only like 10x or?

it's based on cobalt

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18:18

holy shit i hate gdrive

18:18

why does NOTHING WORK

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https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Windows-11-Leaked-Wallpapers-15-06-2021-882771951 all the wallpapers of 11

vista has the best wallpapers change my mind

18:19

I can't

18:19

it does have the best wallpapers

Deleted User

vista has the best wallpapers change my mind

you're forgetting the wallpapers from ms-dos 6.22

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well thats reason enough for me to never upgrade if true

18:20

my iso just burned, about to try it on this c2d

Let me get this right - so, if it needs Secure Boot, that means it's limited to UEFI only or?

18:20

no idea tbh

18:20

we will see

best wallpaper of 11 (edited)

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no way they made it uefi only

18:20

....right?

i have a uefi laptop

I hope (edited)

the Door guy

best wallpaper of 11 (edited)

looks good

lodocus

no way they made it uefi only

Chances of it not being uefi only are slim to none.

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I use UEFi in BIOS mode

yeah i mean

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also secure boot bleh

if yall wanna test it create a vmware vm with legacy bios enabled

What is so "secure" about it?

and find out

says "this pc cant run windows 11" on mine

18:24

i wonder if theres a way to bypass that

Imagine if...

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BTW im pretty sure if you connect to the internet while in setup you are forced to use MS account

yeah

i couldnt get past it anyway

yeah

18:25

10x did yhe same afair

18:25

and seeing that oobe has callbacks to 10x

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18:25

downloaded

that fast?

i have around 15mbps of download

Lucky you

gonna do the quick and dirty way

18:26

just mount the iso

close

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this pc cant run windows 11

18:28

looks like i'll have to wait 20 minutes on rufus

20?

Let's hope Microsoft doesn't enforce Secure Boot

it should take like 12-15 i think (edited)

Deleted User

Let's hope Microsoft doesn't enforce Secure Boot

i'm beginning to think it does enforce secure boot

Let's hope they don't do that by the time of release

18:29

insecure boot when

18:30

Legacy BIOS mode

18:30

is "insecure"

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18:30

~~windows to go?~~

download finally finished

18:34

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hope it's this easy to not use an online account in rtm

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bs

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Vruh 2

i'm beginning to think it does enforce secure boot

it doesnt, i didnt check "Secure Boot" when i setup the vm

somebodey got this error

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so this vm i made isnt secure boot enabled

the Door guy

somebodey got this error

me

18:35

i'm starting to suspect i NEED secure boot

i didnt

I didn't either

upgrading requires secure boot

in my experience secure boot has only caused me issues lol

we'll see

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and TPM 2.0

what is tpm 2.0

18:36

dick

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/oem-tpm

Trusted Plaform Module (TPM) 2.0

Provides guidance on what an OEM should know about TPM 2.0 and the features that require it

cock

18:36

well that sounds like something i don't have

u only need it if u upgrade

18:37

to bypass replace sources from older build and keep install.wim

18:37

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TPM 2.0 cards are easy enough to get

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@Scamdisk god please invent bypass

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is this the iso?

Dism

dism

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

is this the iso?

Yeah

18:39

or use older build sources

18:39

i said

Deleted User

or use older build sources

^

so use all the files of older build iso

18:39

but keep the wim from 11?

Yes

Deleted User

Yeah

ok windows 11 on real hardware time

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

ok windows 11 on real hardware time

Oop, wait!

what

TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot may be required

i like how control panel is still here but with n e w i c o n s

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Deleted User

TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot may be required

what is TPM 2.0

how do you check if you have tpm? (edited)

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

what is TPM 2.0

Trusted Platform Module 2.0

lodocus

how do you check if you have tpm? (edited)

windows setup will tell you but check through device manager

lodocus

how do you check if you have tpm? (edited)

google the part number of your tpm chip

Deleted User

Trusted Platform Module 2.0

how do I checck

lodocus

how do you check if you have tpm? (edited)

i think CPU-Z tells you

WinDVD

i like how control panel is still here but with n e w i c o n s

They still have that Control Panel

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

how do I checck

Don't ask me

18:40

should show u trusted platform module

18:40

with version

not sure tbh

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don't know why CPU-Z would see TPM. thought CPU = only CPU

like so

pog

nice

legacy bios is still intact

no

Ximonite

don't know why CPU-Z would see TPM. thought CPU = only CPU

it actually does show some other info

TPM is it's own hardware attached to the motherboard

uuuh my 20h2 iso uses esd

18:41

is it fine if I deleted it and put wim instead?

check bios settings then

where would I see it in CPU-Z?

Deleted User

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i dont have security devices tab or tpm

Deleted User

is it fine if I deleted it and put wim instead?

Yes

lodocus

i dont have security devices tab or tpm

then you don't have one

lodocus

i dont have security devices tab or tpm

Me neither

https://www.howtogeek.com/287737/how-to-check-if-your-computer-has-a-trusted-platform-module-tpm-chip/

TPM hardware provides a tamper-resistant way to store encryption keys on a computer. On Windows 10, 8, and 7, a TPM is normally required to enable and use encryption features like BitLocker. Here’s how to check whether your PC has a TPM chip, enable your TPM if it’s disabled, or add a TPM chip to a PC without one.

THIS

1

TPM-Z /s

most bios's have software tpm

yeah so ur gonna need to dism or use older sources

Deleted User

Me neither

same

i recommend using older sources, cleaner

WinDVD

most bios's have software tpm

if they dont have a hardware TPM*

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My bios has an option for it

CPU-Z says nothing about TPM

yeah i figured

18:43

just a guess anyway

I don't think I have it

18:43

F

well fuck. (edited)

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my amd bios has it

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my ryzen pc has tpm

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18:43

No such thing on my laptop

how do you check tpm on CPU-Z? I'm on windows 7 rn (edited)

i mean i have intel i5 2500 but shit

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Very helpful...

lodocus

well fuck. (edited)

check bios for software TPM

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18:45

>:(

18:46

WAIT WHAT

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VMware Tools seem to work with Windows 11.

how tf does 20h2 setup know

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ApertureSketch

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yep

...i mean it still can read some txt file inside

Deleted User

how tf does 20h2 setup know

Wim metadata

yeah

18:46

that

ApertureSketch

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transparent taskbar now?

Deleted User

WAIT WHAT

windows 10 setup

18:47

windows 11 pro

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Wowie zowie!

18:47

you don't need tpm unless you're installing from the desktop

I cant do it

if you're clean installing you don't need it

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

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check bios to see if its on

18:47

or clean install

It seems Windows 11 might be...stylish

Deleted User

transparent taskbar now?

If you have a Video Driver

WinDVD

check bios to see if its on

where would in the BIOS

ApertureSketch

If you have a Video Driver

no its a glitch reboot

where would it be

That's not Segoe UI though

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18:47

dunno how this gonna go

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inb4 the TPM requirement is just a MS internal thing, i hope

Scamdisk

inb4 the TPM requirement is just a MS internal thing, i hope

and the secure boot one

18:48

probably

Deleted User

dunno how this gonna go

"Installing Windows 10"

the transparent taskbar is a bug lol

Older setup

WarBruh

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kmspico?

18:48

or whatever

kms that shit

Ximonite

WarBruh

~~kmspico works i did it~~

Ximonite

WarBruh

KMS with a 10 key

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bootrec doesnt even support legacy bios on windows 11

windows 11 uses windows 10 keys

18:49

lol

i think i have a trick though

WinDVD

windows 11 uses windows 10 keys

it's cuz it's cobalt

~~opencore~~

18:49

but for real

though i feel like it might break properties like it does to my 20h1

nah bro

i think opencore might be able to emulate uefi

maybe because i have outdated kms

gonna use a windows 10 iso to do the final part of setup from cmd

18:49

with bootrec and all

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dunno lmao

and i think it will boot after that

18:49

on this 15 year old laptop

holy shitt i have no WINDOWS 10 ISOS

18:50

WHAT THE FUCKKK

i have like 6+ w10 isos lmao

this iso is quite a bit smaller than the latest version of windows 10 for some reason

too many imo but still

windows 11 is 4.5gb windows 10 latest version is 5.4gb

They may have gotten rid of junk

18:50

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so i can't bypass the error]

18:51

sys req error

18:51

this is fucking pain

Vruh 2

sys req error

im working on bypassing it

18:51

with some tricks

18:51

making a video about it too

i have an usb ready

18:51

that also does the sysreq error

18:51

wtf

use vm ez

bruh Win11 channel (edited)

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this

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

bruh Win11 channel (edited)

yes

Windows 11 is real

confirmed??

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𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

confirmed??

Yup

What do I do in this panel it’s in the bios

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

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I don't think I have that in my BIOS

send articles plz

guess i have no choice

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even though I have the BIOS that looks like that

i'm impatient

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

send articles plz

no articles

18:54

yet

can confirm there is a folder named "Quirky" in windows 11

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there ks

lmao

is

Actually there are

articles

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

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i dont think tpm even exists on amd

18:54

wonder how that is gonna work out

Vruh 2

no articles

How is it confirmed then?

Michael

i dont think tpm even exists on amd

yes it does

18:54

bruh

just google dude

there are?

18:54

well

WinDVD

yes it does

i dont think my ryzen has it

then there are

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Ok I did

WinDVD

can confirm there is a folder named "Quirky" in windows 11

should be from 7s sound scheme stuff

just google then

WinDVD

can confirm there is a folder named "Quirky" in windows 11

That's just a Windows 7 sound scheme

regardless, users of even slightly old computers wont be able to run it

18:54

without major tricks/hacks

18:54

microsoft is retarded lmao

Michael

i dont think my ryzen has it

go into bios and check for software tpm

18:55

or hardware tpm lol

18:55

you have to turn it on in bios

Michael

regardless, users of even slightly old computers wont be able to run it

i think what you can do is do an iso with the windows 10 sources

18:55

and 11 install wim

18:55

that'd be easier

I am using 20H2 setup to upgrade to 11 rn

18:55

waiting

i'm waiting for the 21h1 iso to finish downloading

Vruh 2

i think what you can do is do an iso with the windows 10 sources

would that actually work?

18:55

ill try it

disgusting

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unconfirmed

it showed me the windows 11 logo

STARTUP SOUND?????

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Michael

would that actually work?

in theory

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

STARTUP SOUND?????

yeah you didnt hear it yet?

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

disgusting

you can fix taskbar

i heard it

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

disgusting

it's fine

18:56

dark mode, you can still change the taskbar

Looks better than Windows 10 imo

it's a beta after all

Ms knows

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18:57

Windows logo = Microsoft logo

18:57

at this point

The difference is that the Windows logo is blue

ya

18:58

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do I need secure boot to use setup.exe?

yes

ok

and tpm 2.0

the tiling stuff is pretty cool

Deleted User

and tpm 2.0

I have tpm

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

do I need secure boot to use setup.exe?

solution for now is using old 10 files with the 11 install.wim

Windows 11 may not be so bad after all

Deleted User

Windows 11 may not be so bad after all

it's not

But you can get it running without by using an older setup, yes

it has grown on me

Well, it's just a beta

18:59

we will see later when it releases

the tiling stuff is pretty cool

I'm doing that rn

I think the TPM requirement is some internal shit

19:00

Ms won't be that dumb, or will they

I pray

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oh i hate that

19:00

wby

19:00

why

Vruh 2

solution for now is using old 10 files with the 11 install.wim

ah so get a windows 10 iso and change install.win in the sources folder right

Vruh 2

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OMG THAT'S AMAZING

Yes

Vruh 2

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That's lovely

19:01

wow!

cant wait to see one day “NO LONGER SUPPORTS WINDOWS 10” on applications

I guess Microsoft is fixing themselves up

19:02

slowly, but they're doing it

i think this is cool

same

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

wby

that's cool my dude

Microsoft be like if Windows 11 turns out worse than Windows 10:

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you can tile windows easily

that's not the only good thing

Deleted User

yes

I have legacy mode on tho

i think the overall interface looks cooler

im not a fan of the start button logo tbh

19:03

but other than that

19:03

its pretty good

Vruh 2

you can tile windows easily

so your fat ass cant drag it yourself?

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Dean's Tech Corner🌙

I have legacy mode on tho

same https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486833402218151936/854429244071608381/unknown.png

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Vruh 2

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the thick ugly ass navigation bar still there. for fuck sake microsoft (edited)

what exactly?

wow what is so special about secureboot

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

so your fat ass cant drag it yourself?

you're dense

19:04

that's not what i meant

Deleted User

same https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486833402218151936/854429244071608381/unknown.png

wait is that what happens if you run setup?

you can do it faster this way presumably

19:04

and easier

if you try to upgrade yeah

19:05

have to use old 10 setup

19:05

with 11 wim

19:05

boo

Vruh 2

you can do it faster this way presumably

Hope theres a way to disable it

Deleted User

boo

so uefi needs to be on

One thing that sounds weird to me is the name

rip to the windows 7 install on here

uefi and secure boot yes (edited)

19:05

Windows 11, sounds weird

Deleted User

Windows 11, sounds weird

IKR

WHY IT IS IT GETTING READY SO DAMN LONG SHEESH

Maybe because we’ve had Windows 10 for so long

powershell is now called "Windows Terminal" cmd is gonna die isnt it

19:06

also noticed that there is no IE

no plz not cmd i prefer cmd over terminal

WinDVD

also noticed that there is no IE

yay

not yay

WinDVD

also noticed that there is no IE

they removed it before 11 leak

quick launch better still be possible

Internet Explorer had to die

chrome edge is default browser now

I hope they won't force Edge though

WinDVD

chrome edge is default browser now

no

like they do on 10

19:07

finally stopped getting ready

Deleted User

I hope they won't force Edge though

I bet they will do

well, anyhow, you can still change the default browser

I have good news

Goddamn it, has been LTSC hacked already

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the ui is actually a good size at 1920x1080

Scamdisk

Goddamn it, has been LTSC hacked already

nooo way

Ximonite

the ui is actually a good size at 1920x1080

great!

theres already an LTSC for win11??????

Well it's a hackjob

oh

From fucking MDL

bruh

is it debloated?

Ximonite

the ui is actually a good size at 1920x1080

thought you would come out as gay /s

Im gay

Can anyone actually say how bloated this beta is?

19:10

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19:10

Does it have my favorite game - Candy Crush Saga?

19:10

now in oobe

19:10

(I'm joking of course)

Then put /s

why would I do that

19:10

it worked

19:11

on desktop

19:11

nice!

Also MS didn't discourage people from installing it

19:11

Was this planned all along? (edited)

Deleted User

why would I do that

/s means sarcasm

Scamdisk

Was this planned all along? (edited)

id say yes

Scamdisk

Was this planned all along? (edited)

actually i'm starting to think that too

Scamdisk

Was this planned all along? (edited)

Maybe!

Damn, rounded window corners

x-files theme song plays

InternetExplorer

19:11

win8

I like both round and square corners

Also IE11 is still there

19:12

you just gotta copy ieframe.dll from an older build

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that resolution tho

yeah lol

19:12

800x600?

19:13

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19:13

I was close

19:13

cursed

19:13

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19:13

damn

19:13

install graphics driver

No install the basketball driver

AeroLite is still a thing

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Scamdisk

AeroLite is still a thing

GG

looks cursed with rounded corners tho

Can this go a little more quickly?

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19:14

I can't wait to try it out

19:14

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19:15

lol it remember my oldnewexplorer

Deleted User

lol it remember my oldnewexplorer

looks a bit odd when it's large like that

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anyhow, I personally already like it more than 10

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well this is still the dev release lol

that too

19:16

dark theme

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19:16

Looks alright!

19:17

in a month?

In a few days actually

in 9 days

Event is on June 24th

yup

does the large taskbar search bar still exist? Im yet to see that

yea no im pretty sure this leak was intentional

yeah

19:18

i kinda get that vibe

Does Microsoft even acknowledge the leak?

yep

19:18

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Definitely intentional.

They didn't even discourage people from installing it

very un-microsoft thing to do

x-files theme intensifies

What if the Longhorn scenario happens? What if it gets delayed for too long?

new sounds?

19:20

didnt they only add a new startup sound

Hope it doesnt

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inb4 they add right alignment /s

Deleted User

What if the Longhorn scenario happens? What if it gets delayed for too long?

nah i certainly dont think so. longhorns case was different

Wait, Windows 11 is real?

Yup

another one.

Well they gonna add the option later

Oh my god! It is real

They are gonna fix shit later

Is it better than Windows 10?

i wonder what kind of an privacy disaster 11 is

i had the installer lock up when i tried to disable newsletter emails when creating my MS account in the windows 11 oobe

lodocus

i wonder what kind of an privacy disaster 11 is

horrible

19:22

kill it

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Okay

right.

WinDVD

i had the installer lock up when i tried to disable newsletter emails when creating my MS account in the windows 11 oobe

xD

inb4 shutup10 works on 11

windows dashboard is legit just like default new edge homepage but in a side menu

19:22

lots of news and crap

why need that?

no idea

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Boohoo nobody gives a fuck

RostiTheGamer

Wait, Windows 11 is real?

I upgraded to it so yes

Except microsoft diehards

Scamdisk

inb4 shutup10 works on 11

did it even work on cobalt

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see here

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Very useless!

19:24

It takes up a good portion of the screen!

19:24

What the absolute hell

i mean it is a toggle lol

19:24

and you can unpin it

At least!

ok the leak is absolutely intentional

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HEY WAIT A SECOND!

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19:25

IE IS THAT YOU

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is this activated or not

19:26

how

Win10 keys work

Vruh 2

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Tf is that OK button

19:26

looks off

19:26

rounded corners?

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

rounded corners?

yup

no. triangular corners

whatever!

19:27

Almoooooooooost

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I am installing it on a vm on my laptop

I'm gonna install it on a VM as well

crunchy sound lmao

Scamdisk

ok the leak is absolutely intentional

where is that

Somewhere on Microsoft's website, I'm guessing

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/kmsclientkeys

KMS client setup keys

Keys needed to activate Windows products from a KMS server

everything is rounded now

doesnt have it

that's for Windows Server

19:30

why?

the new start sound

Deleted User

that's for Windows Server

and 10

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weird

yep

19:31

i checked

then where is that screenshot from?

fuck me

who knows

I need my ms account

19:31

ms account mandatory

19:31

wtf

serjG

I need my ms account

Isn't there an offline account option?

Deleted User

then where is that screenshot from?

it's a fake, don't bother with it

Deleted User

Isn't there an offline account option?

there is

there is

19:31

sign in options

19:31

phew

19:31

just noticed it right now

Alright

19:32

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destoryed!!

nt kernel is still 10.0

19:32

only branding changed as of now

time to hack kernel to say 11 troll

troll

And it just leaked, ofc something like steam will detect 10 still

it gives me macos vibes lol

win11

win11

windows 11 logo leaked

19:33

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I agree

19:33

win11

19:34

Hah!

19:34

flat windows

11 role when

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in 11 years

the Door guy

11 role when

valvenewsMega

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oh god

19:35

kill it

should I?

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the computer in that image looks like an aluminum macbook ngl (edited)

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19:37

Got the thing spinning

should i dualboot 10 and this beta?

Try it in a VM

i only have a hard drive

I will do the "updates"

19:37

A full compliment of SKUs

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19:38

Okay, it's installing

control panel new logo

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Looks quite good

cause why not lmao

Going quite fast...

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microsofts been planning to remake all icons anyways

...since 2017

19:40

Fluent Design

and it would be actually consistant with 10/11s theme

That's your opinion

all these HD icons and then print management is like yall say 72p?

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Everything is all over the place

19:43

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win11

win11

win11

19:43

eyyy

eyo wut?

swag

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Certified.

yep

19:45

thanks xim

can i have the role

now go grab yours and flex on people i guess

19:46

#deleted-channel

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quake champions i guess

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19:47

i'm totally maining windows 11

19:47

lmao

Deleted User

i'm totally maining windows 11

why so?

19:47

dk mood

19:47

you really like it?

might main it lol

Deleted User

you really like it?

yeah

same same

i mean i haven't tried it but still

19:48

finally got proper resolution

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19:48

This animation is slow

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19:48

it looks super nice

is it just me or the cpu usage is a bit high?

i mean i already have 10 so. have nothing to lose valvenewsMega

valvenewsMega

I won't be running it on native hardware until it releases

i actually enjoy the rounded corners

What is that black keyboard?

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19:49

I like it

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19:49

aero confirmed

so I guess that glitch is not a glitch

it is

19:49

lmfao

19:49

im just installing video drivers

alright then

19:50

do you really have to do that?

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windows 11

didnt have that for me

Vruh 2

im just installing video drivers

what gpu you got?

RX5500XT

it doesn't keep that transparency

hm. tell me if it works

goes transparent for a sec

probably does

Having an offline account is "limited"?

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19:50

then it returns normal

ahmad i know lol

Deleted User

Having an offline account is "limited"?

windows 10 says the same thing

19:50

try harder!

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Vruh 2

probably does

yeah it probably does

Vruh 2

ahmad i know lol

alright

i want to try it on my main rig but im afraid intel network drivers wont work/support at all like it in in server 22

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the ram usage is scary yeah

19:51

they werent kidding 4gb MINIMUM

lodocus

i want to try it on my main rig but im afraid intel network drivers wont work/support at all like it in in server 22

this ain't server so it should?

19:51

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19:52

That does look nice

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ive been sitting on this "just a moment" screen installing windows 11 on the 15 year old laptop for like 7 minutes

19:52

lmao

i think itll be better than 10 within a year

its soooooo slow

19:52

took like 5 minutes just on the boot screen

ram usage isn't that bad for me

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i like how thats 900mb over the ram in my pentium D system

it idles at 2gb for almost everyone

Hopefully!

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time to get cru going

19:54

so i can get 75hz

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install DirectX end user blah blah blah's (edited)

19:55

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35

DirectX End-User Runtime

The Microsoft DirectX® End-User Runtime installs a number of runtime libraries from the legacy DirectX SDK for some games that use D3DX9, D3DX10, D3DX11, XAudio 2.7, XInput 1.3, XACT, and/or Managed DirectX 1.1. Note that this package does not modify the DirectX Runtime installed on your Windows OS in any way.

19:55

it installs XInput 1.3

19:55

it isnt preinstalled on any windows version

steam installs it

19:55

i think

yeah

19:55

if a game requires it

steam games can install it

everytime you install a game

19:56

weird

VMware Tools installation going well...

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it worked fine for me

19:59

what version of vmware is that though

...11

oh

19:59

welp

19:59

goodluck with that

19:59

loll

well, it restarted

it may work

it works on 12

i mean you can just manually download a newer version of vmware tools lol

20:00

what is corsairRGB

The graphics driver - total fail

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not the vmware ones tho

Deleted User

The graphics driver - total fail

download later version of vmware tools iso

how am I gonna uninstall VMware Tools now?

safe mode

you clever cookie

i'm uploading my vmware tools rn

20:01

suprisingly it's just within discord upload limit

haha we native people dont need to worry about vmware tools

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what gpu?

You do need to worry about driver availability... maybe you don't have to

Deleted User

You do need to worry about driver availability... maybe you don't have to

nah its still NT 10

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that's definitely not gonna be included in windows then

most windows 10 drivers should work

You know what, going to VirtualBox

Deleted User

You do need to worry about driver availability... maybe you don't have to

windows 10 drivers work

if you go to vbox enable EGI

20:03

EFI*

its still nt 10

94.88 MB

Vruh 2

windows 10 drivers work

windows 10 downloads it

windows.iso

Oh, alright

that's the vmware tools I was uploading

Thanks!

ima play lego island on windows 11

20:05

w i t h n o c a m e r a p a t c h >:)

i wonder how much you can optimize this system

frick

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the new firefox design fits right in

Okay, I'm having a problem

20:08

I installed Win11 with EFI on VMware

20:08

and I can't get into Safe Mode with F8

didnt notice the new maximize animation

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20:10

You know what!

Deleted User

and I can't get into Safe Mode with F8

Use install media

WinDVD

Use install media

How is that supposed to help?

it has troubleshooting options

20:11

you can boot to startup options

20:11

which has safe mode

I guess that could work

20:11

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20:11

please what?

20:12

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20:12

Just in time!

WinDVD

frick

:(

20:12

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20:13

bad version of Windows?

20:13

hmmm

20:13

I wonder why

20:13

guess MS didn't care about that yet

20:13

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20:13

Okay!

Deleted User

guess MS didn't care about that yet

It's a beta

20:13

yes

20:14

just like in windows 8 early beta builds

20:14

it said windows 7 everywhere

20:14

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20:14

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20:14

you son of a-

ive done it, windows 11 on a 15 year old laptop

20:15

video coming in the next couple of hours

Deleted User

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I first thought that's VirtualBox

Deleted User

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services.msc

20:15

and start windows installer service

I was about to do that

Michael

ive done it, windows 11 on a 15 year old laptop

cool

20:15

I installed Windows 10 on 17yo desktop

Deleted User

I installed Windows 10 on 17yo desktop

yeah but windows 11 is like 8x as bloated lmao

20:16

it runs so god damn slow

Deleted User

I installed Windows 10 on 17yo desktop

older than most people in this server

yeah if you dont have the hardware

20:16

Dont run 11

20:17

alright finally hello from windows 11

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20:18

I am the only insane person dual booting windows 11 and XP

20:18

btw I renamed it in the bootloader cuz it said 10 and it triggered me

20:21

This animation is so slow!

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20:21

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20:22

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Deleted User

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wait i just realized you could have just uninstalled the video driver via device mananger

20:24

lol

Again, things can change

20:24

but yeah, you can switch to whatever you like

20:24

it's early beta bru

20:24

why didn't you switch already?

its legit pre beta software lmao

yeah!

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that'll be fun to watch

"windows 10 is outdated now you stupid fuck upgrade no reason to not upgrade dumb legacy windows user supporting botnet"

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a reveal isnt a release lol

they revealed windows 10 in 2014

20:28

and it looked like windows 8

20:28

yeah release might be october-november or something

lol the windows 10 beta looked scuffed ina good way

this isn't public

20:29

it's literally leaked beta

probably a product of it just downloading windows 10 versions

20:30

and might explain the smaller ISO size

@tyl0413 can you check your cpu usage

20:31

mine seems kinda strange right now

20:31

task manager seems kinda strange

20:31

whenever i open it the cpu usage ramps up to 100

20:31

also

20:31

windows terminal is included

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odd

20:32

i'll stick to process hacker

20:32

as i always do

"windows terminal" is just a fancy way to say powershell lol

no it's something else

WinDVD

"windows terminal" is just a fancy way to say powershell lol

terminal includes cmd as well tho

20:32

+ button

it just opens powershell for me

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20:32

wait

20:32

really

you can configure it

20:32

yeah

20:33

it was on windows 10 on the store

20:33

now its included apparently

20:33

i kinda like it

this is all just old cobalt news

you also don't need to do shift right click to open windows terminal

explorer should look like this

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20:36

it would look consistent with the rest of the UI

WinDVD

explorer should look like this

is that actually from 11?

no

20:37

that's a windows app

yes

on the store

^

what

store?

20:38

ugh

yes

20:38

store

would like to have it to have full 11 experience

unofficial files app

its just called "Files" its on github too iirc

https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9NGHP3DX8HDX

Get Files‎ - Microsoft Store

Files is the modern file manager you always wanted.

^

ah so its unofficial

20:39

thats cool

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personally never used desktop feature at all

a bit inconsistent

we love windows 11

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yeah you have to use light theme for "apps"

ImSwordQueen

we love windows 11

this doesn't look cursed at all

sib

startisback

20:40

startisback is glitchy atm

100 cpu

so don't use it

it seems like

Vruh 2

100 cpu

2 cores 2 gb vm

there is a bug relating to task manager

use old task manager for the better

i'm installing 11 on my laptop instead of 10

There are a lot of new sounds

so i don't have to use cursed vm

20:42

windows 11 is now dead on my vm

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how?

ok my laptop choosen to go into "Press any key to boot from USB..." loop (edited)

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20:42

BTW, you can disable the "Startup App Notification" notification

trying 10 rn

notification notification

20:43

or just disable notifications altogether

wtf, windows 11 has some kind of control center widgets thing (edited)

20:43

lol

So it is 10X.

20:43

Well, expected.

hey mass

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ok the old boot menu has 10 (TM) preinstallation enviroment

(TM)

yes TM (edited)

lodocus

hey mass

Sup.

it's installing 11 now

how did you find 11?

#beta-windows

look at pinned messages here

i've asked for mass's opinions on 11

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lol

lodocus

i've asked for mass's opinions on 11

oh, whoops lol

whoops

lodocus

i've asked for mass's opinions on 11

It's literally based on 10X, shit.

Very passive-aggressive

i mean

20:45

10 was shit

20:45

11 looks promising

very much so!

i like windows 11 somehow

20:45

i'm a fan of it

20:46

i mean (rip small icon users lol)

I mean, do you really want to call it 11 with it looking like 10? (edited)

FUCK

MassClaw

It's literally based on 10X, shit.

its based on cobalt apperantly. so basically 10x but you also get win32 stuff (edited)

lodocus

its based on cobalt apperantly. so basically 10x but you also get win32 stuff (edited)

no containers

10x was uwp only

20:47

which made it god awful

@Ximonite where is windows 11 role

we do have to keep in mind this is a dev build and they've yet to release the system but i also doubt they're changing much

ImSwordQueen

@Ximonite where is windows 11 role

#deleted-channel

got it

look closer

you may just find...

it's similar to 8's lol

That's good

i saw messanger

that's the good side of not having live tiles

that's a big red flag

20:48

start menu

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maybe because its a dev build

i don't think

THERE IT IS (edited)

it's included

20:48

i'll

why would there be a shortcut for it?

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i didn't

20:48

i unplugged it

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20:48

Sure enough, there it is!

LITERALLY

20:48

GARAGE

20:48

REMOVE IT

20:48

BURN IT

burn it

and PS Elements

20:48

>garage (edited)

20:49

and PicsArt

it's not installed

20:49

don't panic

20:49

jesus christ

and Twitter

20:49

and Netflix

remove twitter too

and Spotify

20:49

they're just stubs

twitter is a dumpster fire

remove them

welp my windows 11 installation died

20:49

winload can't be verified

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not much

20:50

you get these pinned apps

rip my hopes and dreams

then you click all apps (edited)

Holy shit it's even worse than 10 with the space consuming nonsense.

and get the full list

tiles are no more?

kiinda similar to 7

MassClaw

Holy shit it's even worse than 10 with the space consuming nonsense.

the recommended ram is now 4gb

where you just have recent programs and pinned apps

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unfortunately :(

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same

ok windows decided to rename all the version of windows i had on the hard drive

20:50

i have

20:51

Windows vista (TM) ultimate

so i'm the only one that kinda likes how it looks right now

Windows 8 Professional with media center

Vruh 2

so i'm the only one that kinda likes how it looks right now

You're not the only one!

(windows 8.1 is gone now :()

I like the look too

Windows 10 (TM) Preinstallation enviroment

Except these buttons.

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20:51

I hope they burn!

if it had blur on the titlebar it would look

20:51

mwah

the recommended ram is now 4gb

Amazing.

ok 11 is installed

MassClaw

the recommended ram is now 4gb

Amazing.

no

20:52

that's minimum requirement

Deleted User

Except these buttons.

with rounded corners they don't that bad

and honestly (edited)

20:52

quite fucking false

ImSwordQueen

with rounded corners they don't that bad

still, VERY BIG buttons

the minimum should be 6gb recommended 8

i mean

20:52

aerolite looks bad

20:52

even with the contrast

Vruh 2

the minimum should be 6gb recommended 8

yeah minimum 6gb is too much..

MassClaw

the recommended ram is now 4gb

Amazing.

biden

4gb is right

that's minimum requirement

Still an increase, that's not even good. (edited)

before it was 2gb lol

dude

20:53

it idles at 2gb

20:53

fuck no

i mean 11 on 2gb runs like shit

I am trying to make it all work in Win11's favor, considering how much of a fail Win10 was among us

ram usage kinda depends of the amount you have

^

but yes it will run like shit on that 4 gb

ok oobe decided to be a fucking flash light

Wow!

wow it worked

Deleted User

I am trying to make it all work in Win11's favor, considering how much of a fail Win10 was among us

Nevermind, they should have stuck to 10 as a live service, this isn't even better to warrant a comeback for annual releases.

windows 11 on a non TPM/ secure boot computer

what do you mean comeback

20:55

it has always been annual

Well now, it is.

I guess we should only have "Windows" at this point

ImSwordQueen

windows 11 on a non TPM/ secure boot computer

My vmware vm is setup like that lol

as a service

WinDVD

My vmware vm is setup like that lol

probably they made a whitelist for that

20:56

rename #windows-10-11 into #worst-microshaft-os 2?

20:56

why are you going to 10

20:56

go back to 8.1

1

go back to XP troll

troll

Can't even believe 10 is going to be the 8.1 in this situation.

Well that's weird.

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weirdly enough those new floating rounded taskbar jumplists weren't implemented

i still want my windows vista back

1

lodocus

i still want my windows vista back

let's ask win32 to make windows vista great again

20:58

oh the graphics driver got installed during oobe

i just gotta beat some games that dont run on proton then im off to linux

Full speed ahead, don't even look back.

weirdly enough those new floating rounded taskbar jumplists weren't implemented

Ouch, that isn't a good outlook. (edited)

what do you mean that isn't a good outlook

20:58

everyone here bashed on that

btw

20:58

this is a BETA

20:58

not the FINAL PRODUCT

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no shit

I like some of it's UI elements, such as the rounded edges and the shadows and the acrylic effect...

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before everyone says something bad about something (edited)

but too many advertisements still!

you can bash 11 when it's close to RTM

Deleted User

but too many advertisements still!

lets hope there will be an o&o shutup11

i wish they didnt ruin start menu like this

20:59

i was happy with my tiles

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20:59

do I need this? NO!

lodocus

i wish they didnt ruin start menu like this

at least metro tiles are gone

Michael

at least metro tiles are gone

lol

Do I need a ginormous start menu? No!

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spotify and netflix yeah

ImSwordQueen

you can bash 11 when it's close to RTM

Yes, but the fix won't even make it better, it will be the UWP hell they tried to push for so long now gamepass have succeeded*. (edited)

ImSwordQueen

spotify and netflix yeah

what crack are you smoking?

21:00

not everyone streams their music or tv/movies from the web

Michael

what crack are you smoking?

i use them

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21:00

If only they had just this

21:00

and they made it smaller

Michael

not everyone streams their music or tv/movies from the web

hmmm. yeah.....

21:00

there is a big percentuage of people doing that

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FUCK YOU

right now i'm trying to optimize the system

ImSwordQueen

there is a big percentuage of people doing that

not me

21:01

never have never will

me neither

time to swat tyl house

I watch TV

Deleted User

I watch TV

i just torrent it

21:01

and usenet

right now i'm trying to optimize the system

For the better, it will probably spike up higher than 10 ever did.

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literally every product ever made

Michael

not me

if netflix and spotify pay big money to get installed on every 11 computer you can't do nothing about it

i dont see why usage would spike up in 11 considering its literally 10 under the hood

i bet the cavemen were advertising their new rock designs to each other

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21:02

Come on!

21:02

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internet explorer lol

This crap needs to die out!

lodocus

i dont see why usage would spike up in 11 considering its literally 10 under the hood

because "SpYwArE oN uNsUpPoRtEd Os"

im pretty sure this build is outdated btw

Michael

im pretty sure this build is outdated btw

It's from May sooo

cuz a lot of the features arent up to date to the latest windows 10 build

Michael

im pretty sure this build is outdated btw

it is

21:03

thanks sherlock

Michael

im pretty sure this build is outdated btw

would be interesting to see the actual full build number

i dont see why usage would spike up in 11 considering its literally 10 under the hood

Why do you think they raised the minimum ram?

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atleast you can remove/uninstall them

MassClaw

i dont see why usage would spike up in 11 considering its literally 10 under the hood

Why do you think they raised the minimum ram?

i mean. 10 ran shit on 2gb

WinDVD

atleast you can remove/uninstall them

they're not actually installed

yeah

they're just stubs

they are web installers

if you ran 10 on 2gb unironically you are a psycho

but still show up as apps

Why the need to uninstall them again?

my video is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f76wKWJD1YU

Supercomputing on Low-End Hardware

Installing Windows 11 (with full driver support) on a vintage 15-ye...

ImSwordQueen

if you ran 10 on 2gb unironically you are a psycho

those cheap 200 USD laptops you see at walmart

MassClaw

i dont see why usage would spike up in 11 considering its literally 10 under the hood

Why do you think they raised the minimum ram?

again, same argument so.. i guess theyve realized how unoptimized it is

ok i'm almost certain task manager has a bug

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WinDVD

those cheap 200 USD laptops you see at walmart

those are ewaste.

You cannot get rid of MS Edge

21:04

normally

they removed all of the right click options on the taskbar too

i mean. 10 ran shit on 2gb

True, but that was a disaster too.

Michael

they removed all of the right click options on the taskbar too

which is weird

theres only one option now, "taskbar settings"

i went to open task manager

no more task manager or anything

21:04

yeah me too

21:04

lmao

if you bought them you well knew they would become paper weights

guess ctrl shift esc is the way now

WinDVD

those cheap 200 USD laptops you see at walmart

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task manager is pretty bugged right now

Michael

theres only one option now, "taskbar settings"

they fixed the context menu hell

not really

21:05

that's just inconvenient

ok the start up animation is still a laggy powerpoint presentation

the task manager option has been in the taskbar for ages

ImSwordQueen

ok the start up animation is still a laggy powerpoint presentation

Yup

21:05

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you expect it to be there

because the fucking drivers got uninstalled

will this fix anything?

sorta

21:05

you can enable the 10x animation

21:06

waiting for my 11 vm to boot..

21:06

literally 20 minutes of booting time

vmware workstation installing windows 11 vm

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for me it boots in the same time as 10

21:06

perhaps slower because i used heavily stripped 10

Vruh 2

for me it boots in the same time as 10

took literally 15 minutes to boot on that laptop i did it on

21:06

lmao

that's why i said for me

10 will boot in 1 or 2 mins on there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMHgM_hTzlw

Windows Central

Windows 11 Build 21996 - New Start, Taskbar, Widgets, Tablet Improv...

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show me your ways

finally. it gave a sign of life

Vruh 2

show me your ways

you powershell the mf

https://www.deviantart.com/imswordking/art/Win11Wallpapers-882771951

or cmd

can you pin this btw?

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cmd trick worked for me

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ok?

21:09

if you use bd use SuppressReplyMentions pls

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Yeah everything leads to it, it's a mac rip off.

yeah

21:10

it looks like a mac ripoff

21:10

the scrollbars look like mac os's ones

It probably has it's place somewhere deep.

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Love that!

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ImSwordQueen

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I love some error

it mentions sun valley for some reason

It's probably a mash of sun valley and 10x when the final RTM comes out that is.

Font-mixing

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21:14

The Task Manager is glitched 100%

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Deleted User

The Task Manager is glitched 100%

yeah it just showed 32% cpu usage the whole time for me

ok explorer crashed now (edited)

on a 2c2t 1st gen mobile core 2 duo

21:14

while the sysetm was completely frozen

21:14

so its definitely bugged (edited)

new sunvalley leak /s

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Look For “Windows 11” In Stores June 24th!

Didn't think they would panic about nasa picking up the new mac os as their OS of choice so much, but guess it's frighting in the eyes of the big shareholders.

wha

21:17

they did?

Yes, have you seen that mars vehicle footage?

damn

21:18

why doesn't nasa create their own OS

nope. i've been living under a rock for a long long time

21:19

mac os is limited though why would they do such a thing?

why doesn't nasa create their own OS

They are simply not software enginners, so why would they dabble in a custom OS when they wouldn't benefit of it too much?

yeah. i'm confused too

21:19

but why switching to mac os

Again, they use it because it's simple and guess it worked for them. (edited)

i guess its not limited enough for them to not use it (edited)

At least it says something about it's polish.

ok 11 just made the taskbar transparent

21:20

i like it tho

21:20

it looks cleaner

One sec, let me post the pic.

oh. the taskbar is now transparent on 11

21:21

that's a cool feature holy fuck

on my computer

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I disabled transparency lol

taskbar was always transparent

fully transparent

i do not intend to upgrade

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tpm and secure boot to upgrade. tpm clean install

21:22

use WindowsNTSetup @#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

no, real hardware

or dism

21:22

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21:23

fully transparent taskbar

eh

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21:23

4GB memory is ridicolus for me

lmao

ok if you want the fully transparent taskbar you can't get the colored start and action center

21:24

kinda cringe

besides i can run windows 10/server 2022 "fine" with 2GB ram

Microsoft is getting bored so they made a windows 11 lol

Oh wait, some machines had 10, but the main control panel uses mac: https://youtu.be/gm0b_ijaYMQ?t=6359

i love windows 11

21:25

it looks so good

21:25

even if it's 10 in disguise

MassClaw

Oh wait, some machines had 10, but the main control panel uses mac: https://youtu.be/gm0b_ijaYMQ?t=6359

are they remote controlling some windows 7 on macos?

Looks like it.

21:26

But those that had 10 are probably personal machines (as in employee). (edited)

damn they made almost a good OS if only the dark mode version of the transparent taskbar don't have white text.. (edited)

21:27

i can't type

id say those macos pcs are personal machines too

21:27

but what do i know

i don't think all the computers are mac os

21:28

but the ones running mac os have windows via remote desktop

21:28

or something

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The point is, it dominates in the office.

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

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applegame got the latest 10 insider build taskbar.dll to work

21:29

"work"

21:29

it's broken

21:31

probably you can unelevenfy by copying files from the latest 10 insider build

21:33

WHAT THE

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Hopefully now they can put some actual money into it

i thought it was crooked

21:33

it isn't

You are also locked to an online account seeing 10x is the base of this os.

^ NOPE

Oh?

on pro they added the offline account

21:34

under the third option

Oh thank heavens.

this one

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21:35

idk on home

21:35

i always install pro because i have a key for it

Unfortunately home has been unironically shit eitherway.

i mean home even debloated still feels shit

It's literally pro but less useful.

windows 11 ultimate when lol

even 10 starter is more unique than home

So they won't roll out footage for the os this year it seems with this leak.

21:40

No idea.

challenge time

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it isn't that bad

21:40

it's like 10

21:41

even with 4gb it's usable

21:41

actually

21:41

it's more stable than 10

21:41

it's really fluid

21:41

ok search doesn't work

21:42

ok 5 tries to open it

Did they optimise the OS or just rolled with a higher requirement?

MassClaw

Did they optimise the OS or just rolled with a higher requirement?

they optimise it apparently

21:42

it's running great

21:42

i think i installed the wrong windows 11 or something

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probably it's the same when they released 10

21:43

which showed up minecraft and others

Considering this os is a comeback to tablet-like devices, guess it's really the 8.1 of the situation, except with an even worse look, 10.1?

i mean

21:43

i love the look

21:43

i don't mind it

21:43

if it had a better looking theme i would main it 100%

21:44

i don't mind them

21:44

probably because i'm tired of the square design

The problem isn't the transparency or the rounded corners really, it's just how everything is big in this.

21:44

And like you've suggested above, there seems to be no small mode.

startisback would be broken

21:44

and smaller devices would get affected

21:44

but probably they haven't port it still

MassClaw

And like you've suggested above, there seems to be no small mode.

they removed small icons and labels

we don't know

21:45

i get why removing labels

21:45

but probably small icons was a little too much

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I knew it people would say this when next windows comes out

this is a beta still

21:46

so we don't actually know how it would look in RTM

ImSwordQueen

this is a beta still

I disagree with that argument

21:46

I no longer agree

where is your worst-microshaft-os role

21:46

time to call an admin for this /s (edited)

Yeah am aware, but microsoft being microsoft, they will not change anything big and release it unfinished.

by the way you can use windows10debloater on 11

21:46

it still works

Vruh 2

by the way you can use windows10debloater on 11

pretty epic

they removed small icons and labels

Yeah this isn't going to be great for shell modding.

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Wait, that's literally a rip off that mac os feature, is it not?

21:48

Could've sworn i've seen it there before.

MassClaw

they removed small icons and labels

Yeah this isn't going to be great for shell modding.

i mean. modding 10 is already a pain

21:48

now microsoft is putting a nail of the coffin finally

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it does, just only in fullscreen mode

21:49

and only left/right, not corners

oh so like metro apps on 8.x

ImSwordQueen

oh so like metro apps on 8.x

yeah pretty much

and on ipad os too

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nope

windows 11 home premium when

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It's trademarked for microsoft, yes.

GamerGuy320

windows 11 home premium when

windows 11 home is home premium technically

21:50

WAIT

21:50

no nvm

ImSwordQueen

windows 11 home is home premium technically

without media center?

i can still do 10 x64 and xp x86

GamerGuy320

without media center?

i mean media center is dead

21:51

it's not even useful anymore without the tv antenna thing

all the fingerprint stuff for my laptop is now built into windows 11

21:52

it wasn't in 10

time traveled

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Ximonite

all the fingerprint stuff for my laptop is now built into windows 11

hopefully windows 11 laptops will have 5g...

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i ran it on a vm that was running off of a usb 3 HDD and it ran fine

11 is just themed cobalt

MassClaw

they removed small icons and labels

Yeah this isn't going to be great for shell modding.

which is the one and only reason why im never upgrading ever idc

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

which is the one and only reason why im never upgrading ever idc

I've always used big taskbar and no labels

maybe windows 11 laptops can have 5G

win10

edge

win11

chredge

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yeah in like 5 years

21:58

im using ltsc 2019

21:58

which is based off 1809

21:58

im fine

not even 11

i followed an optimization guide for 10 on 11 and it made the system feel a bit better

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no shit !!!

22:05

oh

22:05

then native's the way

22:06

weirdly enough my cpu fan seems to be at full tilt for no reason?

i gave it 8 cores and 16gb of ram and its running at like 5 seconds per frame

Virtualbox is bad for it, try vmware- wait is it optimised for such thing even?

it's a beta fucking build is it optimized at all right now

22:07

because we're assuming this is an older build already

22:08

i just hope whatever they reveal later is better

22:08

this is not that bad and i think with minimal effort it would be better than 10

Am aware, but was just wondering- nope, not buying it.

no one's buying it (edited)

22:10

and 10 is 8.1 renamed

22:10

and 8.1 is 8 renamed

22:10

and 8 is 7 renamed

22:10

and 7 is vista renamed

22:10

vista is just the base

vista is just renamed longhorn /s (edited)

Deleted User

vista is just renamed longhorn /s (edited)

it literally is tho

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Yeah but that's not the problem. The bigger problem is it being ultimately worse than 10, no matter what shape it comes in.

time to do the stupidity (edited)

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is there a way to install uefi os on bios?

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drivers seem fucked up on vms

it's not uefi only @Deleted User

it can't be real

22:13

everyone seems to be having issues on vms?

Vruh 2

everyone seems to be having issues on vms?

not me

Haven't tried it yet, still a beta build, so this is expected. (edited)

I shold try Windows 11 on my oc

22:13

pc*

i am confused by your opinions massclaw

Deleted User

I shold try Windows 11 on my oc

no

22:14

you shouldn't

22:14

you have 1gb of ram and a pentium 4

Deleted User

I shold try Windows 11 on my oc

if you have only 1gb no

windows 11 is windows 10 and it has no bloat

it has bloat

for reference

oh

All i'm saying is, hate the directorial direction of it.

but it's snappy for some reason. but it's x64 only

windows 11 IDLES at 1.8gb

so 1gb and a x64 os only it's hell

Vruh 2

windows 11 IDLES at 1.8gb

ram management

22:15

if you have less ram it will use less ram

but it's snappy for some reason. but it's x64 only

I will wait for 32 bit release if there will be one then

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it wouldn't boot at all

when 11 releases

22:15

there's probably gonna be a 32 bit release

doubt

The minimum requirement says it all, there* probably won't be. (edited)

Vruh 2

everyone seems to be having issues on vms?

Running on Workstation with 2GB and 2 Cores and I don't seem to have any issues with performance.

Vruh 2

there's probably gonna be a 32 bit release

doubt

ApertureSketch

Running on Workstation with 2GB and 2 Cores and I don't seem to have any issues with performance.

Guess it's a wait and see.

i just wish there was a way to disable the day of the week

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Wasn't that a registry key somewhere?

i thought too

22:20

but i don't know (edited)

One sec.

22:22

Like i've seen earlier, it seems the SYSTEM user sees the 10 shell, so will throw that out for ideas.

22:23

Oh, seen an answer that tells it's here "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International", for 10 and probably think it's still the same for 11 in the meantime. (edited)

Vruh 2

i just wish there was a way to disable the day of the week

me who uses 125% dpi: laughs in no date of the week

22:25

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MassClaw

Oh, seen an answer that tells it's here "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International", for 10 and probably think it's still the same for 11 in the meantime. (edited)

it's here but where

sShortDate?

that's just the format

Yeah, just change the format.

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I'm a bit retarded how do I do it lol

Just make a dword and let it have 0x1 it seems. (edited)

uuh* (edited)

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restart the shell

ok it worked with 1 and explorer restart

22:31

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now it's just shitty version of 10

22:33

hol up

22:33

where is the settings button

i can't find it anywhere either

22:33

i guess we'll see in Build 22000™️ (edited)

There is probably a registry key for it somewhere, think i've seen a thing like that.

now for the ultimate test

22:35

oldnewexplorer

it works

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22:36

how do i get a windows 11

not totally unexpected

Deleted User

how do i get a windows 11

pins

Vruh 2

pins

what?

Deleted User

what?

pins

Deleted User

pins

oh ok got it

unelevenfy 11 when /s

hopefully windows 11 doesnt flop

22:38

what even is the end goal for microsoft in making windows 11?

22:38

marketing ™️

To compete with apple.

I guess the 2

The influence is apparent with the changes in visual design, round stuff instead of boxed and what not.

Deleted User

what even is the end goal for microsoft in making windows 11?

To make it as oversimplified as possible.

Deleted User

I guess the 2

the 3

I haven't tried 11 fully

Multiple desktops is still there, right?

But damn. Its snappy

MassClaw

Multiple desktops is still there, right?

It is

Yeah too useful to give up.

I don't mind using windows 11

22:44

Probably i will tweak the awful branding and it would be nice to main

local accounts are still a thing

22:45

Yes, in pro only though.

tf is a microsoft account process

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That was there in 10, and now it's here again.

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

tf is a microsoft account process

id assume cloud sync (edited)

22:46

or auto sign ins

theres no oobe to be seen

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9K03jQLyw

Windows 11 Hands On: New Animations, Start Menu and More

22:46

this videos nice

22:46

where can one find a download

22:46

for win11?

on the pins

ty

you'll probably want to have a windows 10 iso at hand

22:47

because there are some weird system requirements right now

22:47

like TPM 2.0

22:48

you can bypass it by putting the 11 install.wim into a windows 10 iso

is the leaked build pro or home

22:48

?

multi sku

22:48

i think

22:48

i installed pro

ok so in the setup in this video atleast

22:48

the guy just shuts his wifi off to get a local account

yes

so id say its the same as 10 rn

yes

22:49

turn off wifi entirely before setting the os up

22:49

or you'll end up with a bunch of stubs for some apps

btw how do you create a new user in windows 11

yeah same thing

which can be removed but either way

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

btw how do you create a new user in windows 11

same way as in windows 10

im glad u can still put start to the left

22:50

a center only start would have pissed me off

and you can still enable the old start menu

Drips

a center only start would have pissed me off

i put it on the center so it doesn't look that similar to windows 10

Vruh 2

i put it on the center so it doesn't look that similar to windows 10

i make my windows 10 look like xp lmao

good luck trying to do that on 11

and if i upgrade to 11

sib and openshell are very broken

ill do the same thing

22:51

hmmm

the taskbar has changed quite a bit on its workings

how about windowblinds?

so don't expect customizability

22:51

i don't know if that works

borderskins allways an option as well

maybe it does

ill have to do some testing

22:52

hey @Vruh 2 if u got it installed rn

22:52

is use small icons and never combine still a thing?

no

22:52

i'm sad to announce

god dammit microsoft

i'm also sad to announce

22:53

the taskbar is even thicker

i saw that

i just wished it stayed the same height (edited)

this might be the windows version that pushes me to linux :L

i'm not moving to linux because of some visual changes

it will be better when it releases

Retrobar? @Vruh 2

don't know

22:54

i'm on 11 i could try it

Vruh 2

i'm not moving to linux because of some visual changes

i said might it depends if they can be fixed

If retrobar works you can make a xp theme work on 11

like idrc about small snd never combin

hold i'll try retrobar out

Ah fuck. Really? (edited)

they shrink search box by default now

22:55

hmmm they learned

it doesn't have a searchbox

22:56

it's just a button

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As if that thing wasn't thick enough.

combine it with the new firefox tabs ...

the firefox tabs actually fit nicely

Microsoft and firefox hates small screens users

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thats compactmode tho

22:57

try runninf at what mozilla calls normal now

it looks exactly the same

22:57

just thicker

yes...

what i'm saying is that it fits well

agree

the only user it boots into is defaultuser0 and mot my new user

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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

the only user it boots into is defaultuser0 and mot my new user

Restart

i think this is my cue to drop vista like a hot sack of potatoes

moving to 7?

23:00

or 11

11. but it apparently needs tpm 2.0?

u can bypass it

11. but it apparently needs tpm 2.0?

This is probably 10x leftovers along with secure boot, they can't be serious. (edited)

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look at the window controls for scale (edited)

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or maybe it's best to stick with vista. but again, i think it would be so funny to crack its ci and mod it...

If you even can do that by then. Which is probably a big doubt. (edited)

windows 11 extended kernel confirmed

23:05

just be lazy like me

23:05

and use mspaint

win32

11. but it apparently needs tpm 2.0?

you can bypass it

23:05

get a windows 10 21h1 iso or whatever

23:05

gut the install.wim out of it

23:06

put the install.wim of 11 into it

23:06

done

how does windows 7 still look better than windows 11

23:06

like come on microsoft

23:07

its 1080p

23:08

my monitors 1920x1080

also i'm assuming it doesn't work

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23:08

because i've installed that like

23:08

5 times

oh im a dum dum

23:09

the taskbar won't change how tall the tabs are but mk

was this here before

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was this here before

No, don't think so.

thats compact

23:12

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Isn't that matching chrome's UI height now?

Vruh 2

also i'm assuming it doesn't work

hmmm the rounded corrners make me think that a luna theme could be super easy to create

they kept some of the windows 7 icons

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no shit

Of course, this is 10x after all.

MassClaw

Of course, this is 10x after all.

this is not 10x

ppl just don't stop talking about the decoy

Vruh 2

this is not 10x

I know the system information was there from the beginning, meant it's just a beta, they didn't do anything serious yet.

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geez

fuck you mean they didn't do anything serious yet

it takes up so much screen space

i'm more concerned about how the taskbar can't be set vertically

23:15

which is odd

23:15

that would be specially handy right now since it's thicker

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keep in mind most normal people

and vertical space is better

have a bookmarks bar too

23:15

i don't use bookmarks but

23:15

most people do

23:17

not with compact mode

that would be specially handy right now since it's thicker

Wouldn't be even thicker while set vertically? Thought this was the case.

its smaller then

MassClaw

that would be specially handy right now since it's thicker

Wouldn't be even thicker while set vertically? Thought this was the case.

well maybe

23:17

but vertical space is handier

i can see more things like retrobar coming out

23:17

in order to fix this mess

and i think it would be slimmer since the new taskbar icons are taller

Except it's ,NET powered.

do .net programs not run on win11?

So it's API reliant, when that dies, it goes with it.

^

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woah woah woah

do .net programs not run on win11?

Yeah but that's not the problem sadly, it still relies on their API.

the fullscreen screenshot

23:20

rounds the corrners

23:20

what the hell

23:20

whos genuis idea was that

Yeah it probably is.

oh mk

They wouldn't be that insane. (edited)

Does retrobars start button trigger the start menu correctly

23:22

?

23:22

link?

23:23

ty

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why

23:23

the taskbar

23:23

why install 11 just to make it like 95

23:24

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it works for you?

23:25

it didn't work for me

23:26

oh

23:26

net core 3.1.0

23:26

yes

23:26

i already installed that

23:26

doesnt

23:26

still complains about it not being there

quite old

23:41

yeah

23:41

exactly what i mean

23:42

it's a bit buggy and i doubt they're gonna present this shit next week

23:42

but another note: the ram usage with discord open seems to be only slightly higher than my Revision OS 1709 install

23:42

so not that bad

23:43

i did debloat it a bit and tweaked some boot options but yeah (edited)

23:44

i don't hate it

Ah fuck, but that's just zac.

i'm in the middle

23:44

i wish it was better but i don't hate it

So will wait on the new trailer and see how it goes.

i doubt they've changed the metrics since then

23:45

i wish it was just a bit better

23:46

honestly (edited)

23:47

the only thing i hate about the new taskbar design is it is too thick

That's the problem, yes.

if it was the same height but kept the new design they would've nailed it

23:48

centering the tbar buttons looks kinda cool but i don't prefer it

23:48

also gta 4 doesn't work

^

i'm perplexed this build doesn't have a timebomb

Could be an intentional marketing tactic for all i know.

Is what i've thought, but it might've been too good.

wtf this is real?

no

01:03

you living in a simulation /s

thanks for pinning the mega link, definitely gonna try this out

wtf this is real?

Yep, it's as much of a mac os knock off as you can get, well it has been ruined from the beginning, 10x was the last thing they've updated.

i'd say it actually looks pretty nice from what i said

Just wait until you try, you will see what i've meant pretty soon. (edited)

wow, they have powertoys window tiling built in

01:08

im definitely looking forward to trying this

01:08

and breaking it

Yes, they have the patent after all.

it's nice they finally have centered taskbar icons without something like taskbarx

also nice that you can change it between left and center

yeah

lots of people don't like the center taskbar

i wonder what will happen if you try to install stuff like openshell

01:11

with the centered start menu, i wonder if it'll make another start menu show up

trying that right now on my vm

waiting for the download on my garbo wifi

01:13

i actually kind of like the new start menu, it's a lot better than windows 10

01:16

interesting, despite windows 7 being four versions away from win11, the preinstallation environment still uses aero basic theming

01:16

i can already think of a lot of interesting things to test

i wonder what will happen if you try to install stuff like openshell

Can definitely tell it will be hell. But will work considering it's just barebones 10x at the moment. (edited)

open shell just doesn't do anything

Oh?

wow, you can actually make offline accounts without disconnecting from the internet

yea. it's very poggers

In pro only of course.

is it possible to install UWPs?

01:19

ah of course

Home is still watered down pro as ever.

is it possible to install UWPs?

Could imagine them being packed into the OS itself when an RTM release comes out.

laughingthonk

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01:31

so uh

01:31

guess im not trying out windows 11

01:32

unless someone has a mirror

therre's a google drive link in the channel

thank god

01:32

thx

Ximonite pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 01:33

anyway here's a shitty meme

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It goes both ways.

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01:38

this wallpaper

01:38

windows 11 in a nutshell

r/windows11 is full of what would be cursed images a week ago

01:38

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01:39

embrace tradition

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wow im surprised its still using thw win7 aero theme

hopefully they'll actually change it this time

01:41

remember this is probably a super early build

01:41

someone managed to activiate it

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01:41

do win10 product keys work on it?

im still mad they removed small icons and never combine

01:42

from the taskbar

01:42

like

01:42

come on microsoft

wtf is the point of that-

i know for a fact a crap ton of people use it

gotta love microsoft removing a ton of stuff people actually use

01:43

i bet they removed toolbars too

open snipping tool

oh no not snipping tool

it still has the giant msg taped to the bottom

01:43

about it being replaced in a future update

phew so they didnt remove it

ngl if it doesnt ship with snipping tool

01:43

im putting it back on there myself

01:43

i dont care about stupid "Snip and sketch"

01:44

its just worse snipping tool

i just realized

wtf is the point of that-

It's just full of those, you have to see it for yourself to believe.

hmm

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01:45

hmmmm

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01:45

coincidence?

Yeah they were teasing it heavily.

01:46

Seen that wallpaper floating around? whatever it was, something something sequel. (edited)

this one?

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01:46

that does look more like the windows 11 logo

01:47

a lot of people think it was an intentional leak to stir up hype

01:48

personally i kind of think it's unlikely, after all it ruins the big buildup to the announcement at their livestream

01:48

but wait just one moment

01:48

the livestream is on june 24th

mjdxp

this one?

Yes, this.

from what i can see

01:48

in this server

01:49

its more people complaining about windows 11

windows 11 is the first mainline windows version in the 2020s

than being hyped for its release

24-2=22

01:49

22/2=11

01:49

COINCIDENCE?

hhmmm

I THINK NOT

wait hold on

01:49

wheres the 24 come from

june 24th, the conference date

24 of june is the livestream for this.

ah

Drips

its more people complaining about windows 11

In any case, yeah that start menu isn't giving me any hope.

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but anyways, im surprised a lot of people really aren't excited for this, it looks pretty good so far

MassClaw

In any case, yeah that start menu isn't giving me any hope.

what worries me is

01:50

that big reccomended section

01:50

sounds like its just a section thats gonna be full of "Suggested Apps"

01:51

from the microsoft store

hopefully not

01:51

but probably yes

Yeah, and the hard to remove shell.

im sure someone will find some kind of hack to get rid of it

cause it says we will suggest apps once you use your pc more

or openshell will be modified to work on it

i have a feeling ik why openshell is crashing

woohoo, 1gb downloaded

the taskbar it hooks into no longer exists

It's building up to be like that 10 lookalike distro.

or openshell will be modified to work on it

For now, you can bring back 10's shell.

01:52

SYSTEM still sees it as a 10 shell too.

i wonder if it works if you enable the old start menu

good idea

01:52

give it a shot

01:52

also set the thing to the left

01:52

to be safe

i wonder if it works if you enable the old start menu

Sure enough.

im sure they will eventually remove it in a future release, it's probably just for debugging though

its probs like the windows 8 betas

im also looking forward to going hunting for old stuff microsoft hasn't changed since the early 2000s to laugh about it

the 7 start menu was still there

01:53

then it got stripped out at release

yeah

2000's pft

im suprised there's no redpill system in place though

there is stuff from the 90s

everything is just there

phone dial is still there

yeah, why the hell is the dialer still a thing in windows 10 again

assuming its a requirement for dialup connections

01:54

or somthing

im also looking forward to going hunting for old stuff microsoft hasn't changed since the early 2000s to laugh about it

Considering it's just 10x at the meantime, you will see alot of 10's inconsistencies still intact.

yeah, it's still fairly different considering it's obviously an early beta

i kinda hate it ngl

01:56

like it is the polar opposite of what i want out of windows

01:56

what i want is this

01:56

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01:57

every ui element matches

01:57

a decent start menu

01:57

and lots of customization

windows 11 ultimate pls

Let them make home meaningful again first.

yeah, it's still fairly different considering it's obviously an early beta

But we are talking about microsoft and you know what they do. (edited)

tbh i'm fine with microsoft expermenting a bit

02:01

innovation is good, if they just gave us the same UI over and over then it wouldn't be nearly as interesting

02:02

and it gives other operating systems some competition, which is good for the market

Expectations were destroyed the moment i've seen that start menu sadly.

i think it looks completely fine, save for the suggestions part, if you could just pull up a little window with app icons i think it'd work pretty well

agree

02:03

new ui is nice

02:03

but atleast in 7 for example

02:03

they made the stuff from the 90s blend with the modern stuff

02:03

now it sticks out alot

there's definitely a lot of stuff that still needs to be fixed

Kind of wanted the UI to be even more experimental, but this really just looks like mac os, except even worse with microsoft tendencies to shove recommendations onto your face.

02:05

But yes, it's still experimentation and you can't tell until you see the final product anyhow.

worst case scenario, we get another mediocre os, but honestly there's not much room to go from windows 10 but up in my opinion

Yeah, 10 has already set the low bar.

anyone try ux theme patcher yet

02:07

?

02:07

on 11

win10 has had so much bad press, so much spaghetti and crap shoved into it, so many bland and uninteresting UI choices, i think that windows 11 could give microsoft a chance at redemption

02:07

oooh i wonder what would happen if you tried to use stardick window blinds

i think stardock dropped windowblinds support on the latest win10 versions

oh, really? that's interesting

they are pushing somthing called curtains now witch is basicly just ux theme patcher but paid

god, you're kidding

windowblinds is still way more powerful

02:08

since it can change window shape window controls button placement ect

02:09

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02:09

this is curtains

02:09

notice the corners are not rounded and the buttons are spread out

the windows xp themes for windowblinds are some of the few good ones imo, and they look way better than that

agree

02:10

thats why i use windowblinds over curtains

02:10

it just has way more features

mjdxp

win10 has had so much bad press, so much spaghetti and crap shoved into it, so many bland and uninteresting UI choices, i think that windows 11 could give microsoft a chance at redemption

Yeah but it might've lowered people's expectations so much to the point of accepting these as default choices in the UI.

Dearest, Windows 11, I need to confess something to you. Ever since I met you, I can only think of your clear, black eyes. You filled my heart with unexpected joy and my head with amazing dreams of us together. My love can only grow more and more each day. I dream of us oversized UI elements and from time to time I would gently stroke your black hair while you keep smiling. In moments like these my life would simply be complete. When I’m alone in the quiet, it always feels like I can hear your voice, whispering me sweet nothings, just like the blessed music of a dun dun dun. I wanted to tell you this from a long time ago, you are as essential to me as is my window. My Fanciful Windows 11, please be sure I mean everything this love letter carries to you with all my heart. Once I saw your lovely smile I knew there won’t be anything more precious to me in this whole world. I want to take you away from the ordinary, away from any upset or misfortune and we shall go together to betawiki. You are the best I ever had and I must be the luckiest person to have you in my life. You are my sunny day in summer. I’d give up all the update in the world to know that you will be right there beside me for the rest of our lives. My heart skips a beat at the thought that soon I will bring you white red to show you once more how dedicated I am to you, for all eternity. With all my love to you, Daniel

You are really going for the back catalogue for this, damn.

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Dearest, Windows 11, I need to confess something to you. Ever since I met you, I can only think of your clear, black eyes. You filled my heart with unexpected joy and my head with amazing dreams of us together. My love can only grow more and more each day. I dream of us oversized UI elements and from time to time I would gently stroke your black hair while you keep smiling. In moments like these my life would simply be complete. When I’m alone in the quiet, it always feels like I can hear your voice, whispering me sweet nothings, just like the blessed music of a dun dun dun. I wanted to tell you this from a long time ago, you are as essential to me as is my window. My Fanciful Windows 11, please be sure I mean everything this love letter carries to you with all my heart. Once I saw your lovely smile I knew there won’t be anything more precious to me in this whole world. I want to take you away from the ordinary, away from any upset or misfortune and we shall go together to betawiki. You are the best I ever had and I must be the luckiest person to have you in my life. You are my sunny day in summer. I’d give up all the update in the world to know that you will be right there beside me for the rest of our lives. My heart skips a beat at the thought that soon I will bring you white red to show you once more how dedicated I am to you, for all eternity. With all my love to you, Daniel

better than the "kernel extending like dogs" one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2Bl6O07nA

Windows 11 Leaked - Let's Explore It! (Build 21996.1 Overview & Demo)

03:09

i've been thinking about whether or not the leak was intentional

03:09

it's hard to decide honestly

03:10

im leaning towards no because i feel like they'd never just leak a build when people could easily be tricked into downloading malware

03:10

but then again, everything seems a bit too convenient

It probably is, they have been heavily winking to 11 as you saw above in the video. (edited)

03:10

It's probably to make the controversy blow over.

and the weirdest part is they actually somewhat acknowledged it?

03:11

i'm torn

03:11

"This is just the Start."

03:11

interesting that they capitalized the S

Again, yes, they are letting all the complaints of it's look sink over for feedback i presume and roll off it from there.

03:12

Which would be fantastic if they were intending on doing it that way.

alright, my iso finally finished downloading, installing it now

Sure enough, have fun.

i'll post anything interesting i find here

Windows 10 will definitely be the last OS

03:19

Im 100% certain

It's still 10x for now so you are technically correct. (edited)

MassClaw

It's still 10x for now so you are technically correct. (edited)

So does that mean windows Vista Is windows xp since windows Vista is 5.0?

Nope, that's 5.0*(forgot xp is what started 5.0) (also, vista is 6.0), and major changes happened under the hood. Your analogy would've been more correct if you used 7 and vista. (edited)

It's almost done installing

03:34

It's installed

03:34

FIrst impressions, it looks a lot cleaner than 10

03:34

I like the sounds a lot more

The win32 api has definitely seen some makeovers which make the thing more consistent than 10, so that's nice.

03:35

But the sounds, not really in the ally, 10's abrupt error sounds were alot better for what they served for.

I never liked Windows 10's sounds, I like the softer sound of 11's

10's error sounds sounds more faithful to (95? xp) in this case. (edited)

Honestly I think I just have PTSD induced by the Windows 10 notification sound

ah the notification sounds maybe are way too loud, but didn't think it was as bad.

03:38

The notification layout however, was and still is worse.

welp i seem to have borked it by installing virtualbox guest additions

Yeah try qemu if you can, not on windows of course. (edited)

interesting, still refers to it as windows 10 here

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Yeah the thing is full of inconsistencies at the moment, so expect those.

i think i fixed it thaknfully

03:42

Here we go

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it's cuz bootloader entry is still called windows 10

03:42

I renamed mine cuz it triggered me

Interesting

bruh 11 rn is just cobalt with shell wrapper and different start menu

Windows Terminal is finally installed by default

literally was a thing in cobalt in the public builds

03:45

I mean there is differences but like half of it is old news for me

Well if you want to get technical. more than 80% should be familiar to you.

03:46

Or maybe even all of it.

I mean if we count 10x yeah

03:47

wasn't that surprised

03:47

they said they will reuse 10x shit

03:47

and 11 build reuses 10x shit

03:47

what a shocker

as expected, web pages believe this is windows 10

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cuz it's NT 10.0

It's still labeled as NT 10.0.

it's just cobalt with 10x stuff

03:49

I assume the next builds are gonna be real shit

03:49

this build is already quite outdated

03:49

most likely the build ms has has way more stuff

yeah, useragent string reports nt 10

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most interesting thing for me is no timebomb

It's to let people talk about it probably.

Did anyone try to set the bios date to 2069 or something and see if it boots

No idea, have been looking at reference photos for most of the time.

They could easily pull that you know, cert shit from 2014-2016 again

Highly doubt it, as their twitter suggests, they are probably acknowledging it.

child windows still use windows 7 aero basic theme, unsuprisingly

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maybe it's cuz no one is gonna use that shit once other builds come out

mjdxp

child windows still use windows 7 aero basic theme, unsuprisingly

no dwm theme is the basic one and probably will remain this way

No matter how much masking MS tries to do, inconsistencies won't be fixed

it's microsoft windows not macos

ofc, backwards compat is one of the main selling points

would anyone use windows if it wasn't for that

gonna activate with kmspi- errr buy a legitimate license key of course

10 keys work on it for the time being but sure.

windows 11 is literally this with 10x shell

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mjdxp

gonna activate with kmspi- errr buy a legitimate license key of course

You don't even need kmspico, as ahem slmgr /upk slmgr /ipk insert key from MS website here slmgr /skms kms8.msguides.com slmgr /ato

04:00

all to be ran in a CMD Window as admin

Deleted User

windows 11 is literally this with 10x shell

It's GENIUS

Deleted User

windows 11 is literally this with 10x shell

at least ain't 10X itself which MS somehow already knew it would flop

It might just be the road to it.

meh, already installed kmspico, it works

04:04

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well that's expected

04:05

since MS will never drop KMS, for obvious reasons

Not that they need to, they could advertise a free upgrade with a microsoft account and it will carry over with more users in this fashion. (edited)

interestingly solitare collection is preinstalled

04:18

here's the high contrast theme

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the classic theme still exists, and applies to 16 bit applications run via otvdm

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tbf some config files changes can make otvdm use the msstyles instead

interestingly offline web pages and write use old icons

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04:32

actually that's completley the same as in regular old windows 10 whoops

04:33

notepad uses its windows 7 icon however still, which is kind of interesting

04:34

mspaint.exe doesn't seem to exist in system32

Yes, no big changes to the backend so far, only frontal. Also yes, that was planned for 10. (edited)

I won't be surprised if older versions of Windows components still run

04:35

stuff like older wmp, gadgets, 7 taskmgr, etc (edited)

mjdxp

mspaint.exe doesn't seem to exist in system32

It and the snipping tool will be independent from system32 as planned.

Also what's interesting is that if the store notepad is uninstalled, Windows wont allow you to associate old notepad to anything

04:38

aka something that has been a thing in recent public cobalt builds

most of the start menu folders seem empty for some reason, odd

Yeah, they did the same with internet explorer. It looks like it's blocked system wide, no matter what you do to it, it won't launch at all. (edited)

it's finally been gutted after all these years

It hasn't been gutted, the folder is still there.

MassClaw

Yeah, they did the same with internet explorer. It looks like it's blocked system wide, no matter what you do to it, it won't launch at all. (edited)

Ie is patchable tho

04:40

Get ieframe.dll from an older build

It's just redirects to edge now- oh?

this is interesting

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ieframe.dll's code since a centrain public build was changed to redirect to edge instead

seems like they added a new feature to control panel? i dont remember this being a thing

But IE can still display it's UI if you use a older ieframe.dll

04:41

and even work

Scamdisk

ieframe.dll's code since a centrain public build was changed to redirect to edge instead

Ah, not bad.

seems like they added a new feature to control panel? i dont remember this being a thing

Yeah they changed the icons for the control panel for categories.

the dark mode is broken, and despite it being control panel the sidebar is active

04:42

i'm talking about "windows tools"

They still acknowledge the control panel at least- yeah seen that.

Ms already knows they can't kill IE

04:42

they shoved it too far into the OS

Yeah you can't if you want backwards compatibility and all.

This is a similar situation to Windows Mail/Outlook Express (edited)

04:43

Not accessible normally, but can be patched to run and work (edited)

Now edge is literally chrome in that regard, people will swallow it.

in windows 10, it's called administrative tools and has a lot less programs, also dark mode works

04:44

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04:45

very strange

04:46

not sure why they renamed administrative tools, broke dark mode, and added a bunch of new stuff to it when it's unlikely anyone would really use it unless it's for debugging

The weird thing is, the theme for 11 makes that files program feel out of place more than explorer. Probably to make talk out of it, after all we got 8 days for that to come. (edited)

i wonder why media player is considered a windows tool

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Groove has failed now the subscription fee for music has failed.

wordpad is in here, but notepad isn't

Ah probably because of it's new look.

quick assist looks very out of place with a metro style icon, guess they didn't make one for it yet

So these are most likely things that microsoft wants to revision.

04:49

Which means good riddance for groove hopefully, fuck that thing.

04:51

Sure media player isn't empty of controversies but at least it doesn't take as much space.

UWP file explorer still exists, doesn't look like much has happened to it though

i wonder if regedit will ever get dark mode

04:53

It should

would be somewhat surprised if it did

04:53

it's not a very commonly used tool

The win32 api is getting an overhaul with it's looks so it sounds like it might be feasible.

UWP file explorer still exists, doesn't look like much has happened to it though

Could be categorised as a failure, which i hope it will be.

for some reason, the notification sound randomly gets stuck in a loop sometimes until another sound plays

Probably a glitch, so they are overhauling the notifications too, not bad. (edited)

huh, so MS paint is actually a UWP now

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Oh shit, don't tell me they boxed that thing.

notepad is the same

Probably there's something in the way of it becoming a uwp app.

although it might just be a launcher which launches the win32 version? not sure

04:59

can't find mspaint.exe anywhere on the system though

Yeah it got boxed then.

05:00

Well, not that it needs every drip of performance it can get.

running mspaint.exe strangely enough still works

Wait what? or that just redirects to the uwp one?

05:00

Normally the task manager shows this.

what the-

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05:02

now i'm just confused-

05:02

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05:02

what the hell is pbrush

paintbrush

weird, it actually works on windows 10

The name of Windows 3.1 paint

i had no idea you could run that to launch paint on modern windows

wait its bundled with windows?

mjdxp

weird, it actually works on windows 10

screenshot????

running "pbrush" just runs mspaint

05:04

i have no clue why that exists

Probably just an in house app that either was considered a failure or haven't finished yet.

these programs aren't actual files it seems

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05:06

i'm guessing notepad and mspaint are hidden somewhere in the anals of windows 11 if you look hard enough, but im not bored enough to try

Or might be encoded differently.

trying to copy the files to host fails

05:07

i have no clue why they even bothered to somehow turn mspaint and notepad into UWPs

Typical, drivers seem funky at the meantime, something has changed.

this feels wrong

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05:08

for science

they’re not actually uwp apps. And they were put in the Microsoft store (edited)

It's just UWP boxed that's all.

Yeah

yeah, i just wonder where they're actually stored on the system

05:09

is this what hell looks like

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wait...

05:10

u cant run that shit from the run box anymore???

No that's 10.

i uninstalled it

05:10

you still can

phew

05:10

i use the run box like alot

05:10

like more than search

mjdxp

you still can

Wait, why the box is a rectangle to begin with, what?

?

Thought win32 got a- or that's just 10, no wait.

are you talking about the curved window borders? because i have no clue why they aren't curved in this install

Yeah, meant that.

05:12

The hell? thought win32 have gotten an overhaul all around.

weirdly enough the icon for paint still seems to remain on the system?

Maybe just leftovers.

the edit option disappears in image context menus

05:13

gonna try removing notepad now

05:14

well, that's interesting

05:15

notepad actually stays on the system if you uninstall the uwp version, there seems to be two different notepads on the system?

05:15

one is in the windows folder and has the old windows 7 icon

05:15

the other has the new one

So they are removing it in favour of a UWP boxed one.

05:15

That's not good.

when uwp notepad is installed, opening it from the windows folder opens the uwp version

05:16

also imagine having to update notepad

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05:16

notice the windows 7 notepad icon

Wait what?

HOW

yep, for some reason notepad tells you to update it

HOW DID I CALL IT

05:16

i called it they left the old notepad

05:16

wait notepad has an update thing???????

Yes.

yep

05:17

and no windows, i don't want to sign in so i can use fucking windows notepad across all my devices -.-

In any case, so they are making those apps redirect to their newer counterparts.

aaaaand i've gone too far

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05:18

if you uninstall uwp notepad

05:18

open the windows folder notepad

05:18

then update notepad

Oh so it's just like the snippet tool pop up.

and launch it again

05:18

you get two notepads

Not bad, thought the damn notepad will get an annual update cycle for a damn minute. (edited)

my brain hurts

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Mine as well.

I wonder if UWP Notepad could run on xbox

the about screens are different

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𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

I wonder if UWP Notepad could run on xbox

Will absolutely be the case.

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

I wonder if UWP Notepad could run on xbox

i think it's incompatible

bruh

mjdxp

the about screens are different

winver style > weird style

the about screens are different

Oh, a throwback to the original one. Not bad. (edited)

okay so uh

05:21

i actually can't reinstall paint lmao

05:21

it's just straight up not in the microsoft store

Well there it goes.

05:21

Wait no.

05:21

You can with powershell.

05:21

One sec, i forgot which command it was.

probably because in regular windows 10 mspaint isn't a uwp

You can say that, so it doesn't have an entry in the powershell yet maybe.

05:22

But you can install almost every uwp app back with powershell.

i mean, this is a leaked build, and probably the only build that exists with a uwp version of mspaint

05:24

so i kind of doubt that ms would put it in their repos

Yeah but what if such a mistake happen in their headquarters testing department? they probably have something to install it back.

05:26

The other ones have been introduced one by one in the same fashion but they were reinstall-able.

i tried copying the win32 mspaint from my host machine to the VM, hoping i could get it to work, but it just doesnt launch

05:29

only one other option i guess....

Reinstall the whole thing? I mean you could try looking through the list of uwp apps and see if it's added, one sec. This: Get-AppXPackage -allusers in powershell should list every app, in every user. (edited)

what, of course not

05:40

obviously i downloaded an iso of reactos, took mspaint.exe from it, and copied it to the vm

05:40

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05:42

i always preferred this ui anyway

Oh, well sure enough then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usc3vJPRIrU

Windows 11 Leak!

Nope.

i always preferred this ui anyway

On second handsight, yeah it's less crowded and more to the point of it.

Looks like this is gonna be a good one

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I doubt that but ok

serjG

I doubt that but ok

Just wait until it's released

You are the one that is assuming it will be good from the get-go though.

MassClaw

You are the one that is assuming it will be good from the get-go though.

I don't see any reason to hate it

Nor like it either.

MassClaw

Nor like it either.

I've tried the leaked build thing

Seen references of that, the start menu isn't in everyones ally.

The only people that would really dislike it is legacy fanboys

MassClaw

Seen references of that, the start menu isn't in everyones ally.

What happened with it?

It's space consuming as hell.

07:00

Nothing except a portion i've seen hating it, well including me of course.

MassClaw

It's space consuming as hell.

Why are people using the start menu in 2021?

Why aren't you using the start menu in 2021?

MassClaw

Why aren't you using the start menu in 2021?

It's an outdated feature

07:01

Theres like no use for it anymore

Why do you think it's in there to begin with?

MassClaw

Why do you think it's in there to begin with?

People will get mad if they remove it

For a good reason, it has a use. They just dumb it down with every release. (edited)

07:03

Plus, i could be saying the same thing for desktop/taskbar shortcuts, it's an outdated thing, why do you use it?

MassClaw

Plus, i could be saying the same thing for desktop/taskbar shortcuts, it's an outdated thing, why do you use it?

Desktop/Taskbar is more efficient

Tell me the reasons then, i'm not convince d at all.

MassClaw

Tell me the reasons then, i'm not convince d at all.

What advantage does the start menu have over the taskbar?

Holding folders.

Deleted User

What advantage does the start menu have over the taskbar?

good reason why desktop/taskbar is more efficient

As well as showing more icons than the taskbar could muster.

MassClaw

Holding folders.

Just look them up in the search bar

The search bar isn't as accurate as microsoft claims it is.

the search bar is part of the start menu

07:07

isnt it

07:07

?

Well it's standalone since 10.

07:08

But it takes the same space as the start menu so you can say it's technically is part of the start menu.

MassClaw

But it takes the same space as the start menu so you can say it's technically is part of the start menu.

Just put folders on your desktop

07:11

Or better yet in the cloud

Cloud? That assumes you have a good connection.

Deleted User

Just put folders on your desktop

For the desktop argument, doesn't that take space off your desktop, which isn't exactly a sign of a modern system?

MassClaw

For the desktop argument, doesn't that take space off your desktop, which isn't exactly a sign of a modern system?

Only folders should be on the desktop then

Good argument, it's useful to have them at the desktop instead of the start menu as it takes less clicks to do so.

07:16

That assumes you default the one-click for opening choice for the mouse, else the desktop folders will take a double click which is more of a waste compared to the start menu ones.

MassClaw

That assumes you default the one-click for opening choice for the mouse, else the desktop folders will take a double click which is more of a waste compared to the start menu ones.

What do you use your saved clicks for?

Time? Well not alot of time but can add up.

MassClaw

Time? Well not alot of time but can add up.

What do you use it for?

What do you think i'm using it for? it's obvious.

MassClaw

What do you think i'm using it for? it's obvious.

What are you using it for?

What do you think it is for then?

MassClaw

What do you think it is for then?

How much time are you saving?

0.001 of a second.

MassClaw

0.001 of a second.

That's nothing

Why do you think it's written then? It's definitely valuable to somebody on this planet. (edited)

MassClaw

Why do you think it's written then? It's definitely valuable to somebody on this planet. (edited)

You can't do anything in 0.001 seconds

Or really? how much do you think a click takes? And chain those up with a folder inside a folder with many programs.

MassClaw

Or really? how much do you think a click takes? And chain those up with a folder inside a folder with many programs.

What the fuck are you using this time for?

To waste my time on stuff i value man.

MassClaw

To waste my time on stuff i value man.

You can't do shit in 0.1 second

You forgot to chain up the time you open up a filled directory.

i tried the windows 11 wim in windows 10 iso method

08:28

but still the only user it sees is defaultuser0

08:28

and not my user account

sethc trick

08:28

lusrmgr

08:28

create account with that

08:28

and be sure to add it in the admins group

i did

08:32

but it didnt show up in the users folder

08:36

clicking on sign off just relogs me with defaultuser0 account

Deleted User

Looks like this is gonna be a good one

hol up

08:36

vista bad??? angryintensifies

angryintensifies

tbh for me the chart is the same except me, vista and 8.0 good, 95 bad (edited)

fixed

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xp bad???

08:47

7 bad??

nice, 8.1 isn't even there lmao

8 includes 8.1 cause they're both good

08:48

and yeah I think xp and 7 are bad

i only think of 95, 98FE and 7 just a bit as bad

08:49

meanwhile someone managed to get the old taskbar lmao

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08:50

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i actually like these rounded corners

actually, you can get old taskbar by copying taskbar.dll from 21390

08:53

i think

oobe didnt pop out so im stuck with defaultuser0

does anyone have a download for windows 11 sounds?

Unfortunately not, you would have to grab the original iso and rip them out yourself for now.

now choosing my user account gets stuck in just a moment

Have no idea what the solution could be, haven't downloaded the thing yet sadly.

We do a little trolling

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Нет блядь a lot of trolling

trollol

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09:32

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I guess I won't be able to install 11 on a core 2 duo e4500 machine

09:41

Actually I'm trying to install 98 on it lmao

Let alone one that has less than 4 gbs of ram apparently. Yes, apparently they raised the minimum. Also that's not good, nothing worked out? (edited)

you can run 11 on 2gb

10:14

setup won't let you but if you install it in other ways you can

10:14

(i mean setup was letting me in vmware so lol)

ImSwordQueen

setup won't let you but if you install it in other ways you can

i just did it the way everyone did

10:29

replacing install.wim

Using 10 iso with install wim from 11

10:29

Profit

yeah

10:30

i was gonna main it but revision 1709 was just a bit lighter

10:30

may main if a new build leaks

I'm here already thinking about maining 21996 for the sakes of fun

the boot up time is slower but once you get to the os i think it's not that much slower than stock windows 10 latest

It doesn't even have a timebomb for dunno why

Vruh 2

replacing install.wim

wait. did that work?

i may try it on my windows 10 laptop from 2020

i tried that and gave me missing drivers thing

on a vm

time to do a little trolling

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valvenewsMega

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Microsoft Internet Explorer 11

Scamdisk

valvenewsMega

unelevenfy win 11 troll

troll

lemme patch windows mail as well

Ximonite

fixed

why xp and 7 bad?

10:38

why not worst?

Ximonite

fixed

totally agree wtf

10:39

ownage ???

i cant download the gdrive mirror

what's the error

10:40

overquota?

i think

10:41

Currently, viewing and downloading of this file is not available. This file has been viewed or downloaded too often lately. Please try again later. If the file is very large or open for access to a wide range of users, access to it may be denied within the next 24 hours. If the situation does not change after 24 hours, contact your domain administrator.

10:44

found another mirror

10:44

working

fixed it

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fixed

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Scamdisk

fixed

for 10. nah

10:52

that's wrong

tbh it's kinda ok for me

it depends on what version really

10:53

before 1809? it's ok

10:53

after 1809. everything goes downhill

19hx can really commit die tho 15xx are gold everything else is just ok (edited)

welp. fuck

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95 was fine

Scamdisk

fixed

finally something accurate

98 just made it bad

10:55

me was just 98

10:55

aka

10:55

bad

fixed

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10:56

this is more accurate

i just resorted to manual install and it worked

no

modern 10 is hot garbage

10:57

you can't tell otherwise

better than 1903

10:57

and 1803

Scamdisk

fixed

pepe_classy

**

all modern versions are better than 1903 and 1803

10:57

maybe include client 1809

i just found the 8th entey on the wim file is the pro education sku

never tried 1803 much

1809 wasn't that bad

1809 is just ok

probably 1809 v1 ruined the rep

1903 can die in a ditch tho

1809 v2 was ok

10:58

1803 was ok. nothing special about it

10:58

1903 is a meh for me

10:58

because it's still better than 1909 and 20hX for me (edited)

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Vruh 2

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very inaccurate

10:59

time to ban you into the coom zone

xp aint bad its just >ok

Vruh 2

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blobconfused

but well its all subjective i guess

anything xp not 5.2 to me is just

10:59

p

what

iss

11:00

piss

i hope 7 PE can see XP drives

11:02

i can't make 11 setup see XP drives for some reason

11:02

and it can't

11:02

goddamn it

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11:10

windows 11 is not quite like windows 10x ^

similar tho (edited)

said not quite

11:11

hence

11:11

similar

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11:17

boring setup

Vruh 2

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yeah that's a bit more agreeable

11:21

but windows 98 is overall bad

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lmao

Vruh 2

but windows 98 is overall bad

windows 98 se isn't that bad in my experience

has anyone made a burned dvd of windows 11 yet? ytrollface3D

ytrollface3D

who uses dvds anyway

the Door guy

has anyone made a burned dvd of windows 11 yet? ytrollface3D

ytrollface3D

I don't have any dual layer dvds around so no

it doesn't need a dual layer dvd actually

11:24

it fits in a dvd just fine

it doesn't

11:24

I tried

actually it doesn't

11:25

probably if you remove all the upgrade stuff it can

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what if you do seperate discs

nope it doesn't

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11:26

now it does

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does it work tho

11:30

I notice a few important sounding files missing

11:33

also working on dual booting windows 98 and 11

Ximonite

I notice a few important sounding files missing

probably if you remove only the upgrade stuff it would work

11:34

idk what files they were so i removed almost everything

11:34

now i will try making an iso for it

11:34

with the stuff which was supposed to be removed

21h1 with 11 wim barely fits

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that's the one that should be used

11:38

works in more hardware

Vruh 2

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you put xp worse than modern 10

11:38

noo

nt 5.1 deserves that ngl (edited)

11:39

literally obese w2k

obese windows 2000 with windows blinds

but g r e e n g r a s s

installing the enterprise key turns the os to enterprise sku

really

11:41

it's not like it's multisku anyways

I removed something important

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11:43

HK416Disgust

fixed

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i still stand opposed to windows 98 and se

best version of 9X tho

98FE is garbo

if only it wasn't hindered with... the shitty shell

ME is bad and 95 has bad compatibility

Vruh 2

if only it wasn't hindered with... the shitty shell

which can be removed derposopo

derposopo

i like windows 95 shell tho

a shell so shitty it brings the speed of the whole os down

active desktop?

Ximonite

which can be removed derposopo

derposopo

thank fuck yeah you can

11:46

98lite

11:46

and that also works with ME

install windows NT 4 problem solved troll

troll

ownage

WinDVD

fixed

good, bad, okay, bad, great, great, great, good, bad, great, terrible, bad

mjdxp

good, bad, okay, bad, great, great, great, good, bad, great, terrible, bad

why is classic windows 10 worse than modern tho

it depends

11:52

1607 is buggy with modern gpus

11:52

1803 and 1809 client were a thing to be witnessed

what is the peak windows 10 version

... out of the modern versions, 1903 was the only one that was truly BAD and buggy

genuine question

1709

11:53

i'm biased

ok

but 1709

does it work with latest amd drivers

not with installer but it works

11:53

... hence i'm talking with you

11:53

if you want the control panel you can easily install it

cause some of the driver inf files specifiy a minimum windows 10 build

11:54

mainly 2020 and above drivers

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11:54

running a 2021 driver

WinDVD

why is classic windows 10 worse than modern tho

because microsoft improved windows 10 a lot since rtm, not enough to make it good, but slightly better

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how do you get amd radeon panel?

11:54

without installer

i forgot

11:55

it used to be in the driver files

11:55

i mean

11:55

the ones that get extracted

hmm

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11:56

that installs it

11:56

iirc

11:56

you can get the control panel in 8.1 like this too

11:56

but you need to manually copy some dlls over from windows 10

i would install 1709 but i dont think in place upgrade works from LTSB 2016

or 7

atleast keeping programs

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11:57

why did i install this

can you install 1709 via in place from 2016 LTSB? (1607)

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11:57

no idea

11:57

i don't even use stock 1709

hmm

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bsod

1

no

11:58

no

11:58

i don't think so

11:59

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/amdgpupro-install

11:59

i have legitimately no idea

11:59

i can't find a good answer

12:00

does it work at all

12:00

i don't know if it even works on windows

12:00

never tried it

12:00

@tyl0413 from what i've heard amd drivers are better on linux than on windows

12:00

and they're better than nvidia's

12:00

i think?

12:00

i don't know

12:01

yeah @WinDVD the latest still works on 1709 if you install it manually

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aight

12:02

wonder why they block normal install

still can't get past this

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12:03

plz help

cause old windows 10

Ximonite

still can't get past this

what did you delete this time

12:03

or does the install.wim simply not work

I deleted what ImSwordKing deleted

12:04

https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/854415984525443152/854683451582840862

12:07

also this might sound like something dixel would say, but please keep non-windows 11 things out of here (edited)

Ximonite

still can't get past this

this has happened to me when i had no usb drivers on windows vista fixed for me when i disabled usb 3 in bios

Embedded image

12:14

‍♂️

12:14

on feedback hub

Do you think this will be a curated, nicely picked suggestions when it's a free for all?

12:15

This was doomed from the beginning when anyone can comment on the action.

i think this was an intentional leak by microsoft

Yes, i do too.

they just leak an older build

12:16

to build up hype

12:16

honestly

12:16

it worked

It's literally written all over, no timebomb, no leak text in the EULA.

i hope whatever they show june 24th is better because this can be better than win10

MassClaw

It's literally written all over, no timebomb, no leak text in the EULA.

"this is just the start"

12:16

on their twitter

"this is just the start"

they kind of acknowledged it on twitter- ah yes. (edited)

Ximonite

I deleted what ImSwordKing deleted

yep. you did a mistake following me

ImSwordQueen

idk what files they were so i removed almost everything

.

12:34

never follow someone which have no experience doing this

12:35

i'm making an iso which probably is able to fit a dvd

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i'm converting the wim to esd rn

all you guys need to do is convert to esd yeah

12:36

just get a 21h1 iso

i removed the manual setup/ upgrade stuff too

delete nothing except install.wim

12:36

convert install.wim from 11 to install.esd

12:36

and that should fit on a dvd

s

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12:37

ffs

12:37

i wanted to install 11 with XP

12:37

but 10's setup is being a bitch

you can fit latest 10 on a dvd DL

12:37

lol

1% in 7 minutes. this gonna take a while Bored

Bored

o o f

aaa i hate myself for trying this

What are you trying to do

XP and 11 dual boot

w h y

12:40

cursed

to prove enderman wrong troll

troll

not as cursed as 98 and 11 dual boot swag

swag

Ximonite

not as cursed as 98 and 11 dual boot swag

swag

time to prove enderman wrong twice

interesting fact: 11's bootmgr looks like 7's

the fact that is technically possible

12:40

windows 98 and 11 dual boot

they must've disabled the fancy interface

12:41

for dualbooting

that's the whole reason i'm trying to get windows 11 on a dvd

hmm

12:41

use dual layer dvd

12:41

problem solved

ImSwordQueen

XP and 11 dual boot

7 and 11 dualboot

thats too easy

12:41

~~we like suffering here~~ (edited)

WinDVD

use dual layer dvd

not spending money when I can just compress

the Door guy

7 and 11 dualboot

possible

12:42

already did that on my laptop

windows 11 on cd when

12:42

windows 11 on floppy disk when (edited)

(i mean i did it with 8.0 so does that count?)

in theory im triple booting 7 10 and 11

Just cram that thing on an sd card.

MassClaw

Just cram that thing on an sd card.

Die mindless ai

12:42

!!!

It's going to get better the longer this is going.

if I don't care about drivers I could do NT 4 and 11 dual boot

just cram windows 11 on a portable music player

Ximonite

if I don't care about drivers I could do NT 4 and 11 dual boot

b ru h

Ximonite

if I don't care about drivers I could do NT 4 and 11 dual boot

or windows 1.0 and 11

wait no

12:43

NT 4 cant see over 8gb of storage

12:43

and only 4gb in installer

well

12:43

It can

malwatch be like

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it can see, it's just setup that doesn't

the Door guy

malwatch be like

ah yes.

it has a stroke if you extend the win nt partition past 8GB

also 98 is way easier to set up on a core 2 duo than NT 4

due to it formatting to FAT16 before converting to NTFS

Ximonite

also 98 is way easier to set up on a core 2 duo than NT 4

disagree

12:44

i got nt4 and 3.51 running

12:44

98 didnt

12:45

no matter what

nt 3.51 on core 2 duo cursed

I literally have to install it on a pentium 3 system, install every driver for the core 2 duo system in one os session, and move the drive

12:45

installer shits itself completely for me

oh yeah

12:46

you cant install it on the core 2 duo

12:46

but moving drives does work

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12:46

funny

also I want graphics drivers on both

12:46

so I'm doing 98 + 11

you need ntldr

why not 2000 and 11

because 98 funny

I could but too ez

12:48

esd conversion at 3% now

why is it going so slow

cause esd compression hits cpu super hard

what cpu you compressing it with?

my skylake xeon

hmm

and cpu usage has been at 100% the whole time

5xxx?

that's fine..

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12:50

it's hitting my ram hard for me

it is indeed fine

now it's hitting the cpu too

not even 100% lul

12:51

imagine not filling ram and page file

it hit my ram way harder lmao

i'm almost over here so

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are you compressing only 1 sku?

all of them

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WinDVD

5xxx?

e3-1230 v5

meanwhile

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what cpu you got?

intel core 2 quad lol

sagirilook

12:56

mine just 5%

i hope this time windows just boots to oobe

12:57

12:58

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8.3

hyperthonkfast

/s

nothing cursed

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what

12:59

windows 8.3 leak real?????????????????????//////////////

ImSwordQueen

nothing cursed

idk why this color changes when i move the window around

Windows 8.3?????????????????!?!?!!!

what if i

13:00

installed windows 11 on my main pc

it's 10 but smooth

13:01

and with stuff removed

also buggy with some older shit (gadgets and wmp11) (edited)

you can add folders on the start menu

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@Ximonite how much is yours?

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literally as you pinged it just started going fast

13:09

it's at 20% rn

13:11

it went through the first 10% really slow and then went sicko mode

13:11

35% now

meanwhile here..

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90%

KizunaWOKE

13:22

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bing is confused

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its ok bing will learn just give it 7 IE-style business days

damn. windows 12 is already out

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this aged like milk https://windows-never-released.fandom.com/wiki/Windows_11

Windows 11 | Windows Never Released Wiki | Fandom

TPM in my bios is in the CPU section under "AMD fTPM"

ImSwordQueen

meanwhile here..

how is it going

real bad

T-Clock makes it look a bit cleaner

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installing 11 after XP was the worst experience i ever done

13:49

doing a new vm for 11

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imagine ultrauxthemepatcher in 11

13:49

with rounded

instead of this shit

and then mesh togheter XP and 11

looks much cleaner

the Door guy

imagine ultrauxthemepatcher in 11

you can get uxtheme already patched

imagine Windowblinds 11

13:49

/s

does windowblinds already work on 11?

Scamdisk

imagine Windowblinds 11

vomits

imagine sagorpirbd 7 theme

13:49

in 11

or even

13:50

does retrobar work on 11?

it does

ok cool

13:50

we can make windows 11 XP edition

you can also make windows 11 10 edition

13:50

you get taskbar.dll from a build that has it

13:50

and replace 11's with 10's

or somehow disable taskbar.dll from working

and then enable the classic start menu

13:51

done

13:51

10

btw did someone found the wallpaper in the get started app?

what is it

13:51

this?

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13:51

it's not included

noo my fully transparent taskbar is gone

Vruh 2

this?

yeah

13:52

i know that it isn't included

no idea

13:52

t-clock just makes the whole thing look better

13:52

bet

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is windows 11 actually main-able?

wait

13:54

what happens if you copy 21h1 explorer and delete taskbar.dll

the Door guy

is windows 11 actually main-able?

yeah

because the system account uses the old 10's style explorer

ImSwordQueen

what happens if you copy 21h1 explorer and delete taskbar.dll

that's the hard way

13:54

you can try it

omg

13:55

i love the taskbar pop out animation for the icons

13:58

cool you can actual install language packs on 11

guys

13:58

try running this on run

13:58

explorer shell:AppsFolder\c5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515_cw5n1h2txyewy!App"

13:58

does it still work

you can run translucentbar and it looks much better

the Door guy

explorer shell:AppsFolder\c5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515_cw5n1h2txyewy!App"

it opens the UWP file explorer

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installing office 2021 rn

xorg?

a joke i guess

Windows 11 = X11?

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14:03

is there a theme for these wallpapers

those are for sure the keyboard ones

yes

14:04

yes they are

14:04

and they work really well as wallpapers

Daily Reminder:

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14:07

ok if you want to use language packs on 11 you can

14:07

it doesn't look weird at all

14:11

ok i see what "gadgets are broken" mean

14:11

the fucking window to add gadgets it's a fucking stick

I extracted all the icons from shell32.dll and put them into an archive

4.75 MB

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 14:48

Same with imageres.dll

6.55 MB

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 14:50

Here are the DLL files themselves

2.49 MB

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 14:51

The Windows 11 notification sounds

Windows_11_Sounds.7z

633.89 KB

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 14:55

Here's the entire C:\Windows\Media directory, it's mostly just full of old Windows sounds with some new ones mixed in (edited)

8.71 MB

onestop.mid best

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 15:00

Oh, thanks for those.

Here is the wallpapers (C:\Windows\Web) directory, thank god I have free nitro

24.34 MB

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 15:08

Enderman is streaming messing with Windows 11 btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzkmjLNrIPA

Messing with Windows 11

15:09

he's installing win11 on real hardware

im on windows 11 on my main pc rn

15:09

lol

that's probably not a good idea, you shouldn't really use beta software as your main

i never said i was maining it

especially one that's been leaked

its just running on it

you're dual booting it?

yep

mkay

mjdxp

that's probably not a good idea, you shouldn't really use beta software as your main

Fine I'm gonna go ahead

had to enable TPM to install btw

15:11

fTPM whatever that is

You can bypass it using a 10 iso with 11 install.wim (edited)

i didnt need to bypass in this case

15:12

i googled what ftpm was

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15:12

its not even real tpm

15:12

oh well

i might try installing this on another laptop sometime just for fun

why not lol

it works surprisingly well in virtualbox though, probably because i gave it half my system's resources waltervibe

waltervibe

f stands for fake /s

Yeah not too happy about this rise, hopefully it's just the usual microsoft shit.

i decided to see what happens when you unpin everything from the start menu

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15:16

i thought the recommended might take up the whole space, but nah, just a big black area

Hopefully this is just early stuff too and get fixed.

nice graphical glitches

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15:19

I did it.

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Epic

Here’s the 98

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Apparently Enderman knows a Microsoft dev who said they're going to be using the NT 10 kernel on win11

ouch

the kernel was the only good part of windows 10 tho

15:22

it doesn't really need to be upgraded

still kinda sucks though like even windows 8.1 got its own NT number (edited)

maybe NT 10.1

they'll probably change the version number

i hope so

15:23

i mean NT 10 might NT 6 renamed anyway lol (edited)

The dev Enderman knows apparently said they're gonna bring back some Windows 10 features that haven't been implemented such as small taskbar icons

thats good

nt 10 is nt 6 improved

15:24

quite majorly

can you change the clock to only show the date and the time and not the day?

compared to 7, 8 and 8.1

WinDVD

can you change the clock to only show the date and the time and not the day?

T-Clock

15:25

though it only really looks good to show only the time

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much better

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use segoe semibold

you can put pretty much any shortcut you want in the start menu directory and it'll work, including files/directories which is nice

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mjdxp

that's probably not a good idea, you shouldn't really use beta software as your main

I am using it as my main cry about it

winaero's ribbon disabler works, unsurprisingly

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I have quite a few time

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mjdxp

winaero's ribbon disabler works, unsurprisingly

and old new explorer too

15:45

windows terminal with acrylic blur and consolas font

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Vruh 2

and old new explorer too

yup

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Ximonite

I did it.

this cant be real, is it??????????????wr[erq

the Door guy

this cant be real, is it??????????????wr[erq

I did this with 11 and XP and I thought I was cool wtf

The hidden Aero Lite theme still exists, but interestingly window borders can't appear like in Windows 10, when you hide the titlebar of a supported program it acts similarly to the default Windows theme

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15:51

Default Windows look for reference

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15:54

Classic battery flyout works, but interestingly the battery icon is seemingly incorrect

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15:55

Weird, unplugging and plugging it back in fixed it?

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Playing around much? they seem to get their hands on nearly everything- oh, just a bug. (edited)

I find this stuff pretty interesting

Can tell.

The Windows 8 style network pane still works

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15:59

Old volume control works

16:01

Showing the system information on the desktop shows Windows 11 as expected

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what if you take the taskbar.dll and explorer.exe from 11 and put it on 10 (edited)

classic personalization works

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on builds that actually use taskbar.dll

the Door guy

what if you take the taskbar.dll and explorer.exe from 11 and put it on 10 (edited)

it probably would not work

it'll probably show the new taskbar

16:04

or not

16:04

no idea

16:04

we know the 10 taskbar.dll works on 11

mjdxp

classic personalization works

where are the round corners?

having no video driver usually results in square corners

huh, i was wondering why they werent there

16:17

i have virtualbox guest additions installed, weird

16:17

not that big of a deal though

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16:42

Note the classic in the background

how

Why do y'all don't like Win 11

i do

I like it

17:01

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17:02

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17:03

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17:04

thats all lol

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are you on oobe?

17:04

why is the user creation blue

the Door guy

are you on oobe?

this is on endermans stream

the Door guy

are you on oobe?

he is

17:06

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what is enderman doing

the Door guy

what is enderman doing

trying to install it

17:17

on uncompatable hardware (edited)

the Door guy

what is enderman doing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzkmjLNrIPA

Messing with Windows 11

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

on uncompatable hardware (edited)

i was the first one to upload a video doing that lol

Michael

i was the first one to upload a video doing that lol

this ones a live stream tho

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

this ones a live stream tho

cool

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Windows 10

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

Windows 10

its 11 tho

Chose Advanced Option for: Windows 10

mega pro tip: don't uninstall microsoft edge if you plan to mess with the windows dashboard

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

Chose Advanced Option for: Windows 10

it says that

17:20

but its 11

tf is windows dashboard

these options will die

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17:20

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17:20

this is windows dashboard

wut the HECC is it for

it's the weather applet on the taskbar but glorified i think

Hmm that icon it has reminds me of something

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similar !!!

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

wut the HECC is it for

shitty widgets

17:21

have to open a whole separate page to see them

Aopllle ban microscopic pp !!

instead of having them on the desktop

thats shitty

yup

ban microscopic pp !!!

looks like the whole widgets thing break if you uninstall edge

17:24

it tries to open via edge

17:24

even if the default browser is something else (edited)

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

on uncompatable hardware (edited)

there is non compatible hardware wtf

17:29

except probably hardware before the core 2 era

17:29

you have to bypass setup and that's it

17:29

you are done

Vruh 2

this is windows dashboard

you mean widgets

Vruh 2

it tries to open via edge

so like news and interests in 10

yes

17:32

except its just a toggle button

17:32

instead of something in your taskbar

Way better at least, looks removable too.

11 has done the installation finally

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Tf

17:36

That shortcut icon

17:36

Bruh

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17:39

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ahhh my love

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is that the glitch

yeah. it's a glitch sadly

17:40

looks good tho (edited)

Of course not for the date and black icons.

you can get it

17:40

translucenttb

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you can set the taskbar to be fully transparent

Also am aware of a dark/light theme choice.

doesn't look that good

17:41

the blur setting looks cool though

i can't still believe 11 is coming out

The visual additions and anything besides the technical details looks to be at least above average, which is something.

i hoped windows 10 was really the last version of windows

Nope, not after sun valley.

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17:56

goes back to the old style

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17:58

The font "Tahoma" doesn't fit in

17:58

anymore

18:00

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18:00

I'm gonna try Win11 on my PC

good luck

even though I have TPM 1.2

18:01

and I'm trying it with the legacy BIOS

18:01

I'll probably get "This PC can't run Windows 11"

18:02

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18:11

I guess no TPM 2.0 complaint

heres an ol

18:15

technique

18:15

take a windows 10 iso

18:15

replace the install.wim with the one from 11

I'll not installing Win11 for now (edited)

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18:32

what do I select here?

no thanks

ok

Deleted User

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They changed the font?!

18:34

Microsoft: fuck segoe i guess

No

18:34

The Tahoma font has been used since Win95

18:35

At least they could've changed it to Segoe UI

oh

18:35

how tf have i never noticed

because you see it every day?

18:35

eventually you get used to it

Looks like it's better than that one where it's assisted with a toggle that microsoft messes around with sometimes.

Deleted User

The Tahoma font has been used since Win95

no?

18:37

it's been in use since 2000

I thought it was since 95

98 and before use sans serif

Oh, well alright

InternetExplorer

it's still a long time though

Embedded image

18:39

you can still do offline accounts without unplugging

ok windows 11 and XP don't work

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18:45

vmware hates it

18:46

the closest

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18:53

When 11 with working old taskbar and start menu

can you try installing openshell on that to see if it works? it apparently doesn't on the new taskbar

18:58

oh, neat

19:00

figured out why rounded windows wasn't working, for some reason having 3D acceleration off disables them

19:04

rounded corners don't work on windows that use the aero basic theme (possible by setting a program to XP compatibility mode) or windows using the classic theme, as expected

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mjdxp

rounded corners don't work on windows that use the aero basic theme (possible by setting a program to XP compatibility mode) or windows using the classic theme, as expected

i mean aero basic has 2 rounded corners already

Tho due to well, DWM, AeroLite also gets the roundness

19:06

4.85 MB

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

where is the patch for this?

21359 taskbar.dll

does the settings of the taskbar change?

here's a regular window with no titlebar with rounded corners

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Scamdisk

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does this enable ie11?

Yes

oh cool

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 16/06/2021 19:08

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that's

19:11

i don't think that's actually

19:11

real

19:11

that's a mockup

oh damn it

will server 2022 follow 10 or 11

Well Server 2022 is technically 10 so

Scamdisk

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how

safe mode doesn't look too dramatically different

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i'm surprised safe mode uses taskbar.dll

interestingly the search function is completely broken

btw the bar under the app that is open and focused is colored based on your accent color:

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Vruh 2

btw the bar under the app that is open and focused is colored based on your accent color:

and if you are downloading something there is a bar

it can also act as a progress bar when you download somethinbg

19:15

yeah

ImSwordQueen

and if you are downloading something there is a bar

so like every windows since 7?

Only the System Account uses the old taskbar without any tweaks aside from having CMD open somehow

Deleted User

so like every windows since 7?

it's different

rounded corners are disabled, and so is maximize button tiling

19:16

the new start menu works as indented

19:16

"indented" intended

Well i mean GPU driver isn't loaded so ofc the corners are disabled

it's just cobalt with shell wrapper what do y'all expect

rounded corners are like aero was on vista/7

19:17

disabled until the graphics driver was installed

19:17

goddamn it. it wanted to scandisk the 11 partition

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19:17

welp rip windows 11

windows 11 in dark mode looks so good! (edited)

19:19

I installed windows 11 on real hardware

19:20

but I don't have the new clock thing

^ how

ImSwordQueen

^ how

what

how don't you have the new clock

what new clock

19:20

there is no new clock

ImSwordQueen

how don't you have the new clock

I installed windows 11 and I did not get it

19:21

its normal

19:21

when I installed it

what clock

does it look like this?

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ImSwordQueen

does it look like this?

yes (edited)

send screenshot

you mean this clock

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yes

t-clock

ImSwordQueen

send screenshot

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he has the 10 style clock without mods

this is a clean install (edited)

yeah you can get that with t-clock

19:22

that's just how it is in this build

look at his screenshot

Vruh 2

that's just how it is in this build

no like I did not do ANYTHING

19:22

and I don't have it

19:22

idk why

yeah

19:23

because that's how it is (edited)

offff course they didn't gut it

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there is no new clock

19:23

on higher dpis the day of the week appears

Vruh 2

there is no new clock

there is tho

it's interesting seeing the 11 style context menu on IE

Vruh 2

on higher dpis the day of the week appears

ohhhh

Vruh 2

because that's how it is (edited)

the 11 one has hour day of week and full day month year

no sorry

19:23

the inverse

19:23

on lower dpis the day of the week appears

that's on low dpi mode tho

which i find really ugly so i use t-clock so just the time appears

I had the DPI on 125

on 100 the day of the week appears

ah crap windows thinks my installation is fucked up because i patched ie11

Vruh 2

on 100 the day of the week appears

yeah

my 11 installation is half italian and english

19:25

idk how the language pack even installed

ImSwordQueen

my 11 installation is half italian and english

wha-

yikes

wait you don't need to log out if you change dpi anymore

ImSwordQueen

wait you don't need to log out if you change dpi anymore

nope

ImSwordQueen

wait you don't need to log out if you change dpi anymore

I like not needing to log out

19:26

wmp still here

NO WAY

19:27

THEY ADDED THE FEATURE TO HIDE THE SHOW BUTTON

ImSwordQueen

THEY ADDED THE FEATURE TO HIDE THE SHOW BUTTON

whats the show button?

show desktop

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19:28

this button

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Deleted User

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thats nice

did you never notice it?

now we can make windows 11 into windows vista

pepe_classy

welp scandisk got stuck

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19:31

so rip 11 partition

ImSwordQueen

so rip 11 partition

nooo

let's see if it's still alive

time to start planning the funeral just in case

ok even 11 wants to do scandisk

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ImSwordQueen

ok even 11 wants to do scandisk

ahh

guys

19:34

aero peek is still real

19:34

win + ,

ooooh

it's pretty fucked up however

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on 8.1 it makes the desktop smaller

i meant on 11 my dude

i know

19:36

but it works on 8.1 too

ImSwordQueen

ok even 11 wants to do scandisk

11 is just 10 cobalt bruh obvs

19:41

this isn't even the latest build

i never used 10 cobalt

outdated build leak

i mean

19:41

it's the first build after so many rumors

19:41

we are lucky that we got this one

this is the last non leaked cobalt build

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19:43

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19:44

Can someone explain what xorg is?

when you explain a joke it's no longer funny

Alright!

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20:06

uhm..

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ImSwordQueen

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what?

20:13

oh the weird drive thing

20:13

thats a windows drive

20:14

that is hide normally

ikr

20:18

i'm confused

ImSwordQueen

ikr

no like look in this video:

but scandisk shouldn't do that

ImSwordQueen

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I suppose they just flattened the logo

ImSwordQueen

but scandisk shouldn't do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jodOv9Ltbtw

COOL FACTS ABOUT WINDOWS 10

ImSwordQueen

but scandisk shouldn't do that

it does

oh.

it should

i didn't know about that

it scans EVERYTHING

it shouldn't do it every boot tho

ImSwordQueen

it shouldn't do it every boot tho

wait scandisk runs each boot? (edited)

yep

ImSwordQueen

yep

are you skipping any disks

no

hmmmm (edited)

even after i ran thru 3 scandisks windows says "uh. your OS is broken. go repair it"

20:22

now it booted

ImSwordQueen

now it booted

good

ok the start menu is broken

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21:25

i achieved comedy

taskbar how

Taskbar.dll from an older Cobalt build

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

ah yes

21:36

doesn't really fit the os tho but still, nice

ImSwordQueen

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what if you replace the taskbar.dll now

21:48

will the taskbar be vertical

i achieved double comedy

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21:52

i can't believe people have 2 dead brain cells to think that was real

thonkering

wait it wasn't real (edited)

21:52

dies of cringe *

damn. windows 11 isn't called 10?

21:53

dies

21:53

also

you can use taskbar.dll from 21359 to get the taskbar.....

21:53

and there's a reg key controlling its position

we all know that

21:53

wait really

so, possible

damn. didn't microsoft change their copyright to What you know about rollin' down in the deep?

so you can set it vertically

21:53

with the new taskbar

dies of cringe

no it crashes

death

i hope microsoft will do the 10 route

21:54

and forgets to remove 10's leftovers

kek

it happen with 10 with 8.1/ technical preview leftovers

21:56

wait

21:56

what settings do settings have for the old taskbar

21:56

oh. it uses the new settings

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

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now i installed the enterprise key and the sku turned to enterprise

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Deleted User

Taskbar.dll from an older Cobalt build

What build

21:59

?

and yeah its self explanatory

10349 works too

Drips

What build

21359

thanks

22:16

i can see myself doing that if windows 11 becomes real

it might not work with final build and it is real

22:17

you probably just mean rtm

can anyone upload old cobalt taskbar.dll

if anyone needs me to upload any files from win11 let me know btw

wow it's real

05:54

I've already found a couple of articles hating on windows 11,

I'm liking windows 11

05:55

it's extremely stable for pre-beta

05:55

and it looks good

how do you even get an OS to becom eunstable

05:56

i don't think i've ever gotten to that point

just throw code at the os

05:56

like I did with the original kernelxe

Ah, just dig a little deeper and you will see it for yourself.

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/why-im-not-excited-about-windows-11 https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/tech/windows-11-leak/index.html https://www.tomsguide.com/news/windows-11-just-leaked-online-heres-your-first-look?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20210616_XTG_D_NWL&utm_content=20210616_XTG_D_NWL+&utm_term=7303817&m_i=40lmBU2a33nkXI9Izi7KuVozj2UTGFWRkvmW5B4L44pK9iDzHahkyhPYhIy0EUKWbpdrtiEF6WvyXkUxMm6VxQ%2BLxwAUiQT346&lrh=ed8648275057014c2985526837146164e11bd2896fc45b0636a3c810a2312591

Why I'm Not Excited About Windows 11

Rounded corners? Centered Start button? Tiny taskbar icons? No, thank you.

Analysis: Windows 11 has leaked. It's a bunch of BS

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Shroomer78

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/why-im-not-excited-about-windows-11 https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/tech/windows-11-leak/index.html https://www.tomsguide.com/news/windows-11-just-leaked-online-heres-your-first-look?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20210616_XTG_D_NWL&utm_content=20210616_XTG_D_NWL+&utm_term=7303817&m_i=40lmBU2a33nkXI9Izi7KuVozj2UTGFWRkvmW5B4L44pK9iDzHahkyhPYhIy0EUKWbpdrtiEF6WvyXkUxMm6VxQ%2BLxwAUiQT346&lrh=ed8648275057014c2985526837146164e11bd2896fc45b0636a3c810a2312591

why don't u just install it for yourself kim

kim

Google drive locked it down for a bit due to demand.

i think i heard that you could get an iso yea

I'm actually uploading the ESD'd ISO to my own site rn (edited)

Not bad, thanks for that.

you have a site???

Yes.

since when though

Since the ever beginning of kernelxe probably. (edited)

way before that

06:01

that site has existed for at least 3 years

Nice.

i have never seen this site mentioned anywhere

close enough

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MassClaw

Google drive locked it down for a bit due to demand.

which link did you try

06:02

there's one from mintel and there's my reupload

06:02

also it's on ia and mediafire

are you guys installig it on real hardware?

yes

06:02

i'm maining this

yep

dang

06:06

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06:06

"microsoft got bored" "small visual changes" (edited)

That's the best way you can put it in.

i never though this day would come, when windows 10 would potentially become obsolete

06:10

when windows 10 came out i was too young to have cared about beta windows builds, or to have know about them

It's a good sign at least, that they rolled back on that thing.

06:11

You won't get the same look for 20 years and all.

rolled back?oh, you mean on the windows-10-forever thing? oohh

Yeah.

06:12

which link did you try, there's one from mintel and there's my reupload

Ximo's one. Also nice, thanks for the mirror. (edited)

yeah that is a good thing, but i feel like windows 11 could use a more "revolutionary" UI, for the desktop at least

Yeah, but a good break from 10 nontheless, provided it's literally the same as 10 under the hood.

imagine a x128 bit kernel (edited)

imagine 128 bit cpu

06:24

my site is having a fit with the file being above 2GB

06:25

so I'm bout to do something real ballsy (edited)

06:27

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what is that

Short link

onedrive link for the windows 11 iso

09:38

here is short link

09:38

https://bit.ly/35BubWl

this is an esd?

yea

alr, nice!

Ximonite

https://bit.ly/35BubWl

Wow it's a bit shorter

mfw leaked windows build on onedrive tfGlad

tfGlad

lol

4chan hacker ximonte

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So you tried shoving the 21H1 explorer in there too.

only taskbar.dll and enabled start menu

10:10

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10:10

this happens too

Oh that, well that's a goner.

expected

probably if you replace the search thing too it would fix it

meanwhile rn getting 21390 for some well, skus

but who knows

10:12

21390 starter

no

fuck

21996 EnterpriseEval

10:12

unless

10:12

i could modify 15063 packages for 21996

Scamdisk

21996 EnterpriseEval

ah yes

or try to shove LTSC on 21996

inb4 sppsvc works

maybe 21996 EnterpriseG too

kim

time to mix 21390 shit with 19041 licensing for those skus

Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC when /s

xinso already did that

wait really

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didnt w11 ltsc already get leaked or smt- (edited)

10:14

well there you go lol

that's a hackjob with 1809 files

oh it's normal 11

10:15

just with the LTSC sku

oh bruh

that is what i excepted

actually you can tell its not LTSC

10:15

it has MS store

10:15

lmao

someone did say something about MS changing shit about starter since 20xxx

LTSC but not really LTSC™️

ms store and edge

Scamdisk

someone did say something about MS changing shit about starter since 20xxx

i mean. did someone tried?

WinDVD

ms store and edge

those were already in starter i think

iirc yes, but meh could try anyway

wait

10:17

why not trying Windows 8 (11) with bing

well that's a little too far considering MS killed the 8.x skus on the UUP Transition

oh. that's a shame

10:18

i wanted to see Windows 8.11 With bing

well 10586 is best i can do, well with 10537 files

lol 1511

10:19

bet

and that's 10. so that's already excepted

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10:20

ok

10:21

Embedded image

10:21

and 1507 too

mintel

10:22

can you do Windows 11 SE In S mode?

considering that shit might not be deprecated, the reg might still work

what is the registry tweak to do to enable it?

10:24

oh probably i found it

10:24

ok fucking explorer crashed (edited)

10:25

thanks windows

also 11 is great so far, aside from those compat issues

yeah

10:25

it's smoother than 10 (edited)

10:25

like how

inb4 it was co_refresh with better code

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this is the 8.x of 10

10:27

of what 8 was for 7

10:27

good performance but worst gimmicks

Imo feels so much better in terms of UX

Betajyst4094

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is it slow

what?

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Scamdisk

is it slow

Nope, even for a phenom machine

i don't remember this feature in 11

guess it's better than 20hx on older vmware then

21h1 is the same as 20hx

10:30

luckly that 10 will be gone

Scamdisk

guess it's better than 20hx on older vmware then

By the way it dies when I install the included tools so I took the iso from vmware 15

expected

vmware 12 is the best spot

Post reset vista aero dies after 11

10:31

And more issues with pre-reset aero

Betajyst4094

Post reset vista aero dies after 11

wait even RTM does that?

no

10:33

iirc not

10:33

but control panel dies in centrain versions

i couldn't get tools working on RTM so

‍♂️

ImSwordQueen

wait even RTM does that?

RTM of vista is fine iirc

10:34

Try 11 or 10 tools

when i get a vista RTM vm i'm going to

aero is slow tho

10:36

i tried v7 and it was pain, same for v16

10:36

how are u not getting slow aero

Weird

v16 is the worst version for aero

totally

ok starter didnt get a branding change

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10:42

neither did ppipro, but enterprises did

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10:43

thonk

probably in a later build they did that

10:43

and starter is a hidden sku sooo

plausible

10:44

and also IoTEnterprise and it's S variant didnt

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10:44

and this still exists

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Scamdisk

and this still exists

windows embedded 8.(11) when (edited)

Scamdisk

neither did ppipro, but enterprises did

windows 11 enterprise ltsc

10:45

thonkering

are MS planning LTSC to be 22000

please let the next ltsc be based on windows 11

10:45

and not 10

Server 2022 base is fine however

10:45

but please be it 11

as long as it's not 19041 and its derivatives i don't care (edited)

Education A3 and A5

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hmmm

and enterprise (device)

office 365 moment (edited)

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ok

did i do something wrong?

what are you trying to do

serverrdsh didn't get branding change either

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what's that sku basically

enterprise muti-session

yeah, what does it do

10:50

rdp stuff?

idfk

lmao

10:50

k

but one thing ik is the fact that i can't be activated with kms, i think

Windows 10 Enterprise multi-session, formerly known as Windows 10 Enterprise for Virtual Desktops (EVD), is a new Remote Desktop Session Host that allows multiple concurrent interactive sessions. Previously, only Windows Server could do this. This capability gives users a familiar Windows 10 experience while IT can benefit from the cost advantages of multi-session and use existing per-user Windows licensing instead of RDS Client Access Licenses (CALs).

10:51

ah, exactly what the name says

10:51

multiple rdp sessions

tho i wonder why did they label it as server sku internally

10:52

i mean ServerRDSH sounds like a Server sku and not a Client SKU

10:53

but then again, CloudEditionEdition exists so i shouldnt question

because it has seever functionality

10:53

...

10:53

ms isn't the best at choosing sku names

Scamdisk

serverrdsh didn't get branding change either

like, wtf is business N

wtf is business at all, you can't get that shit from UUP

internal sku /s (edited)

doesn't seem internal to me, suddenly bringing back a vista sku

10:54

killed off in 7

inb4 it's a planned win11 sku

10:54

not sure how different over pro would it be tho

10:55

i mean, it clearly says windows 11

10:55

so that was updated for a reason

10:55

unlike starter

seems like a late 10 SKU tho (edited)

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what the fuck

tho can't verify the authenticity of this image (edited)

Windows 10 Business is a set of cloud-services and device management capabilities that complement Windows 10 Pro and enable the centralized management and security controls of Microsoft 365 Business. Windows 10 Business also comes with Windows AutoPilot, a service that streamlines the deployment of new Windows 10 PCs.

10:57

oh

10:58

how many windows 10 skus are there

this is different from Vista's Business which was basically Professional with a different name

yeah

well MS started using one basebrd.dll.mui for everything somewhere in 1607 dev

11:00

so if something is listed there, it exists i think

Scamdisk

well MS started using one basebrd.dll.mui for everything somewhere in 1607 dev

also the reason why Xinso's EnterpriseS hack did have 11 branding

ah alr

ok seems like business exists as ESD only

11:02

should we move this to #worst-microshaft-os considering we talking about 10 skus

11:03

but those same skus apply to 11 so idk

Enderman got a DMCA takedown request from Microsoft for hosting Windows 11 on his site, which is very interesting

meanwhile my gdrive link is still up even tho not downloadable

That implies they know it's out there, and they don't want people downloading it

12:09

So it makes me assume it wasn't an intentional leak

well well well too late

12:09

almost everyone and their grandmas have it

Yeah, they really can't stop people from sharing it on mega and gdrive though

the original mega leak was taken down

Hosting it on your website and making it easy to access makes you an easy target

12:11

Well that's interesting

and this is why i didnt make much progress to my website™️

my onedrive link is dead already

Ximonite

my onedrive link is dead already

oof

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is it?

13:48

is this uwp

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I really didn't expect the onedrive link to survive very long since it's literally a microsoft product

13:51

but damn they quick

13:52

and the hash isn't even the same since it's the ESD'd ISO

rename it to something sneaky

13:52

lol

alr, nice

Vruh 2

is this uwp

it's probably just a win32 app in a uwp container or something

oh

14:46

whatever

14:46

it's just as fast to launch here

14:46

and functions exactly the same

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it's win32 app in UWP container

15:23

this isn't the first time they do it

https://twitter.com/thebookisclosed/status/1405249694348070914?s=09

Albacore (@thebookisclosed)

Hello there, meet Small and Large Windows 11 taskbar

Likes

389

dont like how the old big is the new small

it isn't

17:56

that's just the dpi

17:56

hold on

18:00

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18:00

it's closer to the current small taskbar than the normal size

18:00

just slightly bigger

Wait, so a small mode already exists for it.

yes

18:01

needs to be enabled via registry however

Thank heavens, a step in the right direction.

18:01

Oh.

for NOW

Yeah, that's enough for me to know that it will at least be there in someway or form.

it looks odd in small mode

18:02

i don't know

It's fine as long as it's there.

Vruh 2

that's just the dpi

ik but characteristics is what ive meant

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EnterpriseG

Vruh 2

it's closer to the current small taskbar than the normal size

woah woah woah

20:11

how do you enable small taskbar in win11??

one moment

nvm

20:13

i found the reg keys online

found it?

20:13

cool

this makes windows 11 slightly less crappy

20:13

assuming it sticks arround to rtm

it probably will... not as a registry option

wdym

20:14

u think its gonna be in settings

20:14

?

yeah

doubt it

20:14

seems to me like microsoft is taking away a bunch of customization in this update

with current tools?

20:15

yeah

20:15

if new shit comes around then uhh

Not really confident in such a thing, but we'll see.

Scamdisk

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already out with the weird SKUs

when you dont have ms edge in windows 11 and decided to launch internet explorer

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microsoft edge is always there no matter what troll

troll

Well, not until you add the dlls back like scamdisk suggested.

time to make windows 11 custom edition

reminder windows 10 themes should still work

00:35

such as this one which actually make some of the elements that are still "white-ass" (so called by docHAL) dark

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Though which ones? All of them no matter which version? (edited)

the ones that still work on recent versions of windows 10

Oh, so 1909 and beyond.

this one works with 1903

00:42

and 1709 kinda works with it

00:42

explorer is a bit messy with it there but it works

Yeah 1709 and below is risking it.

with the rounded corrners

02:34

i bet a luna theme would look really nice

My friend is working on Windows Server 2003 11

02:35

;)

02:35

Making server 2003 look like 11

Drips

i bet a luna theme would look really nice

#desktops-setups look there for pictures

Pdawg

#desktops-setups look there for pictures

Holy crap

02:40

that is

02:40

amazing

02:41

by any chance know how your friend enabled never combine on windows 11?

No

02:44

Not at all

02:44

He's been working on it for two days and posting occasional progress

02:44

Not really in depth stuff

i bet a luna theme would look really nice

Be careful with that wish.

MassClaw

i bet a luna theme would look really nice

Be careful with that wish.

i bet i can get one working

02:47

because uxthemepatcher still works

Yeah being heavily based on 10x.

hell im using luna theme on win10 rn

a macos skin would probably work well with the new taskbar tho

02:48

and the round corners

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WinDVD

a macos skin would probably work well with the new taskbar tho

Yeah, that's really true. They are probably after that marketshare so makes sense.

what do u guys think of win11

02:49

i sorta um

02:49

hate it

so far

02:49

its windows 10

02:49

lmao

windows 10 atleast has a slightly better taskbar

but hopefully they change that lol

That taskbar will probably stay so hopefully at least openshell works. (edited)

i think it's fine personally

03:31

i like the changes but it's obviously a very early build

Yeah, but the signs worry some, the fact you have to activate the thing to get your buttons on the left is one.

yeah, i guess i can understand that

eh that doesn't bug me

04:02

i feel like

04:02

u might as well pay for it if your gonna use it every day or whatever

Daily reminder of: Microsoft will probably force upgrading 7/8.1 users to 11

ImSwordQueen

Daily reminder of: Microsoft will probably force upgrading 7/8.1 users to 11

How do you force people to upgrade to another OS?

Like how they did with 10

ImSwordQueen

Like how they did with 10

How does that work?

07:58

How it worked - Microsoft offered Win10 for free until July 29th, 2015

07:59

and some people repprted that their PC was forcefully upgraded to 10

07:59

without the user's permission

Deleted User

without the user's permission

Ok what you still using windows 8 for then

08:03

Just reinstall the OS you had before

Well, Win8.1 should still get support, I don't like 10

08:37

I've had a few OSs before

Deleted User

Well, Win8.1 should still get support, I don't like 10

No one uses 8 so there's no reason in giving it support anymore

09:19

There are some people that are still using it

bruh

09:19

my mom uses 8.1 still lmao

you can't say that absolutely no one is using 8.1

09:20

8.0 isn't used as much as 8.1

although im hoping to switch her to linux mint eventually

well, good luck!

thanks, her 8.1 install is half broken and her laptop can barely even run it

09:21

i'd say windows 8.1 is still an extremely good OS, especially for touch devices

09:22

a lot of the touch features were removed from 10 and replaced with the god awful tablet mode

09:22

i'm going to be sad when support ends for it in two years

Same here

09:23

And Windows 8.1 is being considered the same as Windows 7 when it comes to software support

09:23

so since Windows 7 is losing support for programs, Windows 8.1 is as well

it's basically like XP and vista all over again

09:24

as soon as 7 looses mainstream browser support, 8.1 will likely follow

Sadly...

09:24

for now though, most browsers support both Win7 and 8.1

while the gadgets window is buggy, the gadgets themselves seem to work just fine

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i like the odds of windows 11 being a succesful OS

Same here

Scamdisk

while the gadgets window is buggy, the gadgets themselves seem to work just fine

Same thing happened for me, didn't find it worth commenting on though

Deleted User

8.0 isn't used as much as 8.1

as a windows 8.0 user this scares me

i can't believe there are people who uses 8.0 as their main for a while now

could it be that 8.0 had a more revolutionary UI than Windows 11?

ImSwordQueen

i can't believe there are people who uses 8.0 as their main for a while now

Me and Ren still use Win8.0 and we have no issues

For a while

19:37

Like 2-3 weeks

Btw the way i did install windows 11 to go to oobe properly was to install it manually with dism and such (edited)

20:27

WinNTSetup and Windows 11 wim on Windows 10 installer methods didnt work on me as oobe didnt launch and the only user i was logged into was defaultuser0

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

WinNTSetup and Windows 11 wim on Windows 10 installer methods didnt work on me as oobe didnt launch and the only user i was logged into was defaultuser0

You have to open oobe manually

Shroomer78

could it be that 8.0 had a more revolutionary UI than Windows 11?

Apparently

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mmm i really wanna install 11

Mm.

Shroomer78

could it be that 8.0 had a more revolutionary UI than Windows 11?

No

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i have yet to see someone with a terminated account

If you are a braindead guy to literally log in with your Microsoft account on a leaked build i wouldnt be surprised

i am logged in

10:48

nothing happened

Because its false

yes

But it can happen

10:50

First rule of betas : never log in with your main accounts

10:50

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i literally read this before it was made

lul (edited)

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Microsoft doesnt care probably

it's just stupid fucks spreading misinformation

ImSwordQueen

Microsoft doesnt care probably

yes

Scamdisk

it's just stupid fucks spreading misinformation

Yep

their only concern is preventing more people from getting it

I mean

11:13

Login in with your ms account and getting the iso arent the samw thing

everyone and grandmas have it, yes

11:15

(edited)

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11:16

fuckers got 21996 ServerTurbine

Mdl?

yes

Aka my dad left for the high iq people

xinso

ImSwordQueen

Aka my dad left for the high iq people

kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKT2FdzlrSA

Windows 11 Offline Account

14:15

for windows 11 home

rainmeter works on windows 11

deployed 11 n for workstations to my x58 desktop

Did you get broken oobe

19:20

as in the N skus, oobe is prone to crashing

seems like it

is it possible to install 11 without tps?

what's tps

i cant wait anymore i need to get my hands on it

you mean tpm?

yeah that

clean install

ok?

like, boot up the iso

20:45

it works

20:45

the tpm requirement is upgrades only

my plan is to burn it to usb and then boot from there like usual

yes

20:46

it will work fine

oh ok then

It did not for me (x58, TPM either 1.2 or disabled, 12 GB of RAM, BIOS/MBR) so I had to use DISM to deploy the wim.

hmm?

20:46

it did work for me and i only had tpm 1.2

can i install it as mbr?

yes

yes

ooh nice

worst case scenario would be to replace a dll in case it doesn't work

perhaps it's a little more lenient if you have TPM at all than not

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or just dism

win32

perhaps it's a little more lenient if you have TPM at all than not

no tpm at all. i have the same screen (edited)

20:48

assuming its literal w10 with a new theme i hope to god intel network drivers work

20:48

i mean it was based on cobalt after all and etc but idfk

It is a lot less taxing on my HDD than Windows 10 1809

cant use server 22 because of that

But it idles at 2 GB for me, a lot more than Vista's 1.2 GB and LTSC 1809's 1.4 GB

how much ram? (edited)

12 GB.

20:57

damn, dwm using 87 mb of ram.

thats actually quite fine considering i have 10 gb and build19043 idles at 2

20:58

isnt ram usage also dependent on the amount of ram you have?

yes, somewhat

yes it is

21:02

windows optimizes itself more if you have less ram

use WinNTSetup or dism if you are able to use it

21:11

or WinToHDD if you like to pay i guess

21:14

Fun fact: you will get useless space which you can't remove if you want to setup windows 11 in offline mode

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lol

21:15

can't u unpin this shit?

Nope

21:17

I cant

21:17

I can move it tho

tiles are no longer a thing right?

there is widgets

21:21

which basically give u weather and news

If you use the new start menu no

but we don't currently know if it's gonna support third party content and it's not so customizable

If you use the old one there are tiles

wait

21:22

i can switch between both start menus?

21:22

old and new?

For now yeah

21:22

Via a registry tweak

oh great

Also with the taskbar but you cant customize it without using regedit

need to find that reg

yeah, but old start menu would look weird if your windows button is in the center

Pinned

Deleted User

yeah, but old start menu would look weird if your windows button is in the center

yeah

ImSwordQueen

Also with the taskbar but you cant customize it without using regedit

taskbar needs a dll swap

21:23

from build 21359 or so

If you want the 10 experience without the 10 part copy taskbar.dll and you're done

21:23

Wait

21:24

What happens if you copy search too

im fine with taskbar but that start menu is no game

ImSwordQueen

What happens if you copy search too

idk

I'll try copying it from the latest insider build

21390 taskbar.dll doesn't work

21:27

it has been tried already

21:27

idk why, though

Taskbar.dll + start menu works tho

21:28

Nvm it was 21354

21:29

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isn't this fake

21:29

or you actually made it

ah shit

22:15

this pc cant run 11

22:15

any way to bypass?

22:17

attempted to clean install via usb btw (edited)

Have you tried extracting install.wim to the root of the USB itself and running dism /Apply-Image /ImageFile:Z:\install.wim /index:1 / ApplyDir:Y:\ (where Z is the USB and Y is the partition you want to install it to?)

22:19

index refers to the SKU. 1 will be home/core, while 10 will be pro for workstations

i didnt try anything and dont know any workarounds

That is exactly how I ended up installing it.

22:21

It won't change the MBR though, so you'll have to find something else for that if there isn't a BCD entry already set up for the partition

lodocus

any way to bypass?

yes

22:21

first

22:21

get a windows 10 iso

i want to install mbr

then put it on your usb thumbdrive

22:21

replace install.wim with the one from the 11 iso

22:21

boom

22:21

bypassed

switch wims?

yes

sure then

Deleted User

or you actually made it

Real

any way to get the "files" app (unofficial file explorer) outside of the store?

Nope, just get in that store, the only way at the moment. (edited)

00:05

Or wait.

i think i can install .appx packages without store

Maybe there's a site that h- yeah.

00:06

Just ask kaa- oh. Well one sec.

someone mentioned there is a github but idk

00:07

in the meantime ill be busy getting 11 to work

Don't think it will require alot of force.

lodocus

any way to get the "files" app (unofficial file explorer) outside of the store?

check github

i mean hopefully. i will try vruhs method

github.com/files-community/files

Oh right, most of these projects exist in github, that's what you meant.

yeah

appx can be installed without store

thanks. i will check it

00:08

yep

Yeah that too.

but it comes in APPXBUNDLE iirc so you may need to extract with 7z if you are on older windows

00:09

though i think it requires 17XX anyway

00:09

sorry i mean Msixbundle

asked for an appx because no way i am logging in to any microsoft product and second i will be obliterating store and everything else

yeah its in releases

thanks again

you can extract it with 7zip if it doesnt open normally

00:10

yep

Not bad.

btw

?

what is the difference between pro and pro for workstations?

Good question, i've never seen the difference myself.

which version of Windows 10 20H2 should I use?

revios lmao

That? Oh, yeah that's true. (edited)

Also, what is the difference between Education and Pro Education?

Ah that might have group policy and the former, not.

00:12

Oh. pro for workstations seems to allow 2TBs of memory. (edited)

00:13

And Resilient file system?-

alright. merged 19043 setup and windows 11 wim together and everything seems to work fine

00:13

atleast for now

Not bad.

i know that i will have to update and like redo everything when ita fully released but i just couldnt help myself

It will take a while until release regardless.

i think its june24th right?

Nope, that's just the conference.

oh?

00:17

what the ms talking about eith the reveal and stuff then? just slideshows in a conference?

Probably things related to 11 from their aggressive hinting. (edited)

im pretty sure this leak was intentional

Of course, it's a planned big ad.

but hey

00:20

at least you basically get the latest "insider" build that has no timebomb in it (edited)

00:21

engrish

Well, true but it's really no different than the other 10 isos that exist in the wild.

00:23

But it's unexpected, thought microsoft is heavily disconnected from the audience. It must've been a new hire.

MassClaw

Well, true but it's really no different than the other 10 isos that exist in the wild.

true but just go for the latest one if you gonna use 10 right? i mean i do like and support older builds but they are losing support by the time goes on

00:24

which is just kinda dumb imo

Well only in terms of directX most of the time.

MassClaw

But it's unexpected, thought microsoft is heavily disconnected from the audience. It must've been a new hire.

yeah. but i guess theyve figured out how to play the game

00:25

by the way made it to windows 11 oobe

00:26

thanks vruh it worked

Yeah, but you probably have a chance at it either taking about 40 minutes or blazing quick.

what? the oobe preparing time?

Yes.

oh

00:30

well lucky me im out of oobe now (edited)

That's not bad.

and oh man

00:31

curves everywhere

00:31

except the file explorer?

Yeah, it's not bad for a change of pace.

00:31

Also yes, it's better that way.

i mean the edges of stuff

But even then, i think the details view of explorer has been "altered".

they are not rounded like ive seen in screenshots

Yeah, it's been left as is.

00:32

For the most part anyway.

00:33

If they fucked the details view up, it's the end of it all.

which they kinda did. space between folders are bigger

Ah fuck.

00:36

Really? they ruined the only reason for the old explorer to stay.

yep

00:39

though i dont get it. how do people have rounded edges on every windows and i dont? maybe im missing a driver?

Nope, it's just that inconsistent, what are the excluded apps/programs? (edited)

00:40

Have you activated it also? (edited)

no but i can access personalization so.. i guess its activated? hold on lemme check

00:41

i kinda dont want to run the kms i have because it obliterates the new pc properties screen (edited)

00:42

probably because mines outdated

Oh.

as for the bloatware its the same just with a new facelift

Not sure in what context do you mean with facelift.

lodocus

though i dont get it. how do people have rounded edges on every windows and i dont? maybe im missing a driver?

yes

01:05

you need drivers

ah. okay then

Wait drivers for corners?

MassClaw

Not sure in what context do you mean with facelift.

ive meant icons

Oh.

appearantly so

MassClaw

Wait drivers for corners?

yep you need video drivers for some reason

MassClaw

Wait drivers for corners?

yes

the corners are t o o p o w e r f u l for the basic display driver to handle i guess lol

it's a dwm thing

Sure i suppose.

drivers installed and oh damn the taskbar is a little broken

01:22

better disable transparency effects

hello from 11

hello

these rounded corners are nice

01:43

compared to 10 anyway

Yeah, but anything about the details view being recoverable?

WacOS?? 11

01:43

lol

01:43

Macdows??

01:44

err

My system is quite marginal for Cities: Skylines, having only 12 GB of RAM and a GTX 260 equivalent. Yet it seems to do far better than on Vista, 7 and even edges out XP x64 (DX9 mode).

MassClaw

Yeah, but anything about the details view being recoverable?

no idea

details view is required for me tbh

I will keep 21996 in mind for years, if Windows 11 declines after this build.

if they take that out ima just use 10 lmao

its there but the gaps between stuf are wider

Thus beating the whole purpose of using it in the first place.

Yet it seems to do far better than on Vista

That's probably because 10x is targeted at tablets yet again. (edited)

by the way where can i get og kms?

01:46

like actually safe etc (edited)

No idea, i haven't grabbed one as of yet.

lodocus

by the way where can i get og kms?

use microsoft activation scripts

there are few websites claiming to be the official site kms

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

A collection of scripts for activating Microsoft products using HWID / KMS38 / Online KMS activation methods with a focus on open-source code, less antivirus detection and user-friendliness. - mass...

lodocus

there are few websites claiming to be the official site kms

Oh right, you can do that with command line like scamdisk insisted.

it activates with digital licence instead of kms

no kms script worked with pro for workstations, so what i did was run slmgr /ikp product key and that will do it

also has kms option

win32

no kms script worked with pro for workstations, so what i did was run slmgr /ikp product key and that will do it

Yeah that works.

01:48

Just grab one of the 10 kms keys found in the microsoft ~~blog~~ documentations and off you go. (edited)

WinDVD

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

thanks a lot man

Yee

files app time

02:00

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strange

02:02

did you extract it or run the MSIX bundle?

both

thats weird

02:02

it worked for me

02:03

maybe try an older build

wtf scale 400 actually installs i think (edited)

try it maybe it will work

failed

works on 2019 LTSC

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The appx format probably makes it hard for it to transfer an already installed package, well damn.

jesus christ what the fuck

02:09

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whats using the ram?

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Chrome lol

Typical day.

man this taskbar is so unnatural

04:36

it feels wrong

and just how big everything feels

oh holy shit

04:53

i cant believe ive actually missed something from windows 10

04:53

glad i can restore old start menu

04:57

but for some fucking reasom it does not want to read windows accessories folder at all

They could remove it from the October refresh tho, but i digress

yeah i just cant add shit to the start menu

05:05

it just doesnt want to read the damn thing

05:05

ffs microsoft (edited)

05:10

is there some cache file that i need to delete?

05:10

idk

this is driving me insane

is there some cache file that i need to delete?

Don't think so. It's all hell from there and onward. (edited)

sorry

10:49

are they no paint 3d in windows 11?

10:49

or its just me

No Paint 3D, I think

10:52

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noice

10:54

i thought its just me lol

lel

this is hell

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11:03

also what the fuck happened to the windows photo viewer?

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lodocus

also what the fuck happened to the windows photo viewer?

What

the bottom

11:11

its missing

11:11

buttons and shi

Minimalism!

this new explorer is horrific

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11:13

everything is just big (edited)

Enable compact mode @lodocus

where?

Folder options

oh thank god

Deleted User

No Paint 3D, I think

doesn't come with it by default yeah

11:28

you could still install it from the store

lodocus

buttons and shi

yeah for the same reason windows mobility center, customizergod, wmp11, and a bunch of other shit

11:28

anything that expands aero gets this

11:29

so, even an ultraiso 7 installer i had and aeroshot have their bottom missing coz its supposed to be aero

great. sib breaks explorer

11:39

cant have shit in start menu

Startisback also broken :,(

sib=start is back

11:46

anyway, what about openshell

openshell itself is broken. i will try classic shell latest

11:49

unless you replace the start button it wont work

oh

11:52

latest openshell nightly build worked for me on 21h1 tho

Deleted User

yeah for the same reason windows mobility center, customizergod, wmp11, and a bunch of other shit

wmp(12) looks normal to me (edited)

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WMP11 is the one with glass

11:55

in the bottom

11:55

you'd have to hack it in

library mode

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this is wmp11

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11:56

see the glass in the bottom?

yes

yeah, it was removed in wmp12 (edited)

but at least wmp12 doesnt expand da glass

well

12:11

ive couldnt find a fix for this god awful start menu problem yet but ive found a workaround for pinning stuff to start

12:12

just search the app and pin it from there

ImSwordQueen

Folder options

Holy shit, thanks dude.

looks like live tiles are no longer a thing in 11 with classic start menu

12:22

option is there but

12:22

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damn

Yeah they won't do it justice.

sad

So it's better kept off.

they want you to use widgets now

But that's thankfully an app, not a thing that's welded to your damn taskbar.

you can take screenshots of the app and replace the icon using tileiconifier though lol

kek

actually i dont even know tileiconifier works

it's still not "live" (edited)

still better than nothing though

Yeah it's not "live" until you use their UWP format. Fuck that. (edited)

what the

12:25

they did?

12:25

why?

12:26

oh

12:26

maybe thats why it doesnt function

when do you xbox console companion

12:27

the new xbox app?

and also both start menus are broken. doesnt read custom folders (edited)

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

It will probably be patched when it's released

pffft

Isn't a bit broken? (edited)

oh shit well i guess you cant replace icons of default apps

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

how did you get it to work?

Ah yeah, they have a delay* you can adjust. Forgot that. (edited)

12:31

Yeah you won't get a patch for this one.

Compare that to "Xbox Console Companion" @tyl0413

Well, their xbox app is already a mess, don't think they will get around it anytime soon unless they have a change of mind in 11.

12:36

Of course, their format and downloading method is simply atrocious, though it is cheap and can't blame anybody for taking advantage of it.

12:36

Though hate it personally just because of it having UWPs.

Classic_Start_Menu_11-_Enable.reg

343 bytes

12:36

Classic_Start_Menu_11_-_Restore_Def.reg

328 bytes

12:37

regs to quickly restore old start menu

Not bad, thanks for that.

new loading bar for taskbar buttons

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12:57

why is it not green but gray instead? (edited)

cool and good taskbar/start menu

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13:00

no need to use registry tweaks

13:00

just remove taskbar.dll

nice. is there way to restore old search too? is a little inconsistent when search is floating and start menu isnt

that was my mission lol

13:01

i tried bringing it from the latest insider iso but it doesn't start. i'm going to restart to see if something changed

also i think you should try sib with that old taskbar to see if it properly works

99% it would work

and start menu

13:03

it would be better if they just took the classic start menu but like floating in the air instead of this bs

13:03

or better yet dont touch it at all

13:04

yeah

13:04

yeah

time to rename #worst-microshaft-os previously-the-worst-microshaft-os

damn windows 10 is no longer the worst

13:04

what a day to be alive

windows 10 - worst performance but usable

13:05

windows 11 - best performance but everything garbage

best?

13:05

what makes it good performance wise?

it's comparable to 8.1

13:05

i got the same loading times on 8.1 and 11

13:05

i don't gonna talk about windows 10 20h2...

13:06

8 minutes to fucking boot up

13:07

i killed search

13:07

welp.

13:07

excepted

13:08

huh. they removed some features from old explorer too

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you can unpin these empty spaces but i still dont know where to find them if i want space

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aren't these apps?

14:12

i didn't get the spaces

14:12

i got shit like netflix and whatever

14:12

unpinned them

nope

14:13

you can only unpin them

odd

i dont know how to add more/them back

separators would be nice yeah

well finally

14:17

my 11 setup is complete

14:24

that broken start menu fried my brain

also for some reason you can uninstall paint and notepad

lol, coz they're uwp apps now

dont click on uninstall if you are sure you want to get rid of it

That might prove that they're UWP apps?

i mean they still work the exact same way so

14:38

but maybe they are uwp under the hood idk

win32 apps in UWP containers

It seems like that

After a few Cinebench R11.5 (CPU test) runs: 2008 x64 with extended kernel (2019-09 updates): 7.92 pts avg. 21996 after AV disabled: 7.99 pts avg.

nice

i just have these pinned, no blank apps at all

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i tried replicating what i did on this vm and i'm failing

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18:57

i somehow made taskbar.dll not load

18:58

even with a restart it still loads windows normally

amazing

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

i just have these pinned, no blank apps at all

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19:01

it works flawlessly for me

I got taskbar.dll unloaded again

20:16

And search is still dead

20:16

F

Gone for good.

huh. they removed some features from old explorer too

Ah no worries, it's only ink, touch keyboard and the useless "people" icon. Though, what will happen with the language button? (edited)

https://twitter.com/thebookisclosed/status/1406897382458019846

Albacore (@thebookisclosed)

One more thing I wanted to say regarding Windows 11: a lot of people are falling for the illusion that this is "New Windows," which is exactly the skewed truth Microsoft wants you to believe. 21996 is basically build 21390 with prominent shell changes and new branding, that's it.

yep

09:13

in fairness though it might fully release with a new kernel who knows

09:14

i doubt its gonna stay windows 10 mode forever lol

You've seen microsoft before, i'm pretty sure they won't do anything of value.

here's to hoping lol

10X was the closest they were getting to consistent, but then again

11:26

That would had flopped due to lack of Win32 program support at launch (edited)

11:27

and many other reasons

They know they will upset a large set of users if they gone for a more consistent look but dropped all of what makes it windows.

So ofc they dropped it in favour of implementing the good shit in it to normal Windows which ended up with well, 11

the win32 program backward compatibility is probably what holds back windows consistency. you cant even get rid of control panel unless you want some apps to break that rely on it.

11:30

that's just one example

At least they didn't decide to go dumb and force people to use centered start button and taskbar buttons

what they probably can do is give said apps a makeover to atleast make them LOOK modern

Well tbf that's what the theme does

11:31

You know, "aero"

yeah they got rid of some of the windows 7 icons lol

11:31

or atleast modernized them

Hell, they got rid of NT4/2000 era icons

11:32

Only saying those instead of 9x because well, it's NT

i bet there is still code from 1993 NT 3 era lol

Scamdisk

At least they didn't decide to go dumb and force people to use centered start button and taskbar buttons

They kind of did that already.

Yes

Well, by forcing you to at least activate it and then change it yourself.

Try double clicking on the icon in the titlebar (edited)

11:33

It will close

11:33

Like in 3.x

worst case we always have custom taskbars lul

11:33

lol it works

11:33

WINDOWS 11 IS NT 3 CONFIRMED

If it at least kept that aspect of having the active programs in it, it's fine by me. (edited)

They didn't remove code for the 3.x menu/close button

11:34

They just made it use the program icon instead

11:35

Or invisible in some cases, depends on program

hmm

But double clicking where it should be might work (edited)

possibly

11:35

i mean we have xp source code technically

11:35

i know thats old aff

again, depends on program

but still

well, in that source code, there's code for 3.x era shit

11:36

like progman and winfile

11:36

And shit in that source code can be compiled in x64

11:36

So x64 progman is possible

Not bad.

we need this

Mix it with WB and some other shit like some minimized window iconier and boom, modern 3.x

would be super cursed but it would be kinda awesome at the same time

You know, when explorer is not running, programs revert to the 3.x way of minimizing

11:39

Except they are a window instead of a icon

for now this is the closest we get to 3x on windows 10

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11:39

lol

inb4 WB works with no dwm

11:41

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/4780

WindowBlinds - Windows 3.11 (FREE DOWNLOAD) | WinCustomize.com

The first skin fully made by me.Say what? Feels a bit nostalgic? Almost makes you wonder where did the - by SkinStudio

11:43

There, 3.x theme for WB

where is the windowsblinds crack for 10

There's one i think in xodus's pack, pinned in the #worst-microshaft-os. (edited)

what pack

11:46

i do not see it

11:46

maybe im just blind tho

scroll all the way down

oh

11:48

thanks

11:51

i dont see windowblinds

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Ah shit, always thought it was there.

11:52

No problem, hopefully it's has been dug somewhere here. One moment.

alr

Yeah, that thing might have left my drive, will look for other sources.

oof

Windowblinds 10, was it?

Not sure on what the versions are but if its for windows 10 yeah

In any case, yeah some links has been taken down, and all is left is to hunt from this virus garbage pile. (edited)

oh no

Hopefully someone with a mirror comes in soon.

i sure hope so

If i'm not mistaken Alt+F4 had it, so at least hopefully he will see this.

MassClaw

There's one i think in xodus's pack, pinned in the #worst-microshaft-os. (edited)

i dont think thats pinned here

Yeah, because it's in #worst-microshaft-os. Bottom of pinned. (edited)

I cant get search to work not even with old files

15:21

That's a big rip

15:22

Probably i can get it working some day

win32

better than the "kernel extending like dogs" one.

why did i search it on google Lol

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Shroomer78 pinned a message to this channel. 23/06/2021 00:44

hope it's not too much of a nuissance

00:47

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00:48

i cannot find it

was in the previous server

ohh

00:57

it kinda does sound familiar

does anyone have the windows 11

01:04

icons?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

How tf is windows 10 more performant of windows 11? Was he using classic 10 or something?

windosd 54

WinDVD

i sure hope so

Yeah still can't find it as of yet to a misfortune for some. (edited)

reminder the event is tomorrow

MassClaw

Yeah still can't find it as of yet to a misfortune for some. (edited)

i already found it but its buggy on my copy of windows

05:25

#worst-microshaft-os

05:25

and go up

Nice.

reminder the event is tomorrow

Wait, 6 or what?

tomorrow at 11 am ET i believe

05:33

today

05:33

june 24th 11 am ET

Not bad.

finished the transformation. search is dead but oh well.

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Yes

11:52

Replace taskbar.dll with the one from 21354 iirc

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

No it's in 3 hours and 8 minutes from now

did i miss the windows 11 event btw

On the way still.

Ohi MassClaw

11:52

You're back, hmm

Sup, yep. Finally over.

Cool

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

yes but you can't get the old settings back. i found a method which disables taskbar.dll entirely but search dies

@ImSwordQueen search was greatly changed in 21996 (see BW Win8-11 channel)

Not good.

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Nope that's just a guy counting down to it.

0x000000e winload dead cant boot into the os

15:03

any ideas?

You would have to wait and see for this one, no error table so no conclusions.

rebuilding bcd worked (edited)

15:19

anyways time for the 11 stream (edited)

15:21

what was that now?

15:21

"oh just connect to your family"

15:21

thats the only sole reason anyone should get 11?

Sucks to be me with no way of getting a tpm

ah just

16:16

to bypass "this pc cant run 11" bs just burn a windows 10 iso to usb and then replace the install.wim with the windows 11s one (edited)

16:16

thats how i got it running (edited)

Scamdisk

Sucks to be me with no way of getting a tpm

also appearantly that tpm bs is just a dev build quirk

No it's final

16:19

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11?OCID=pchc_windows_app_omc_win

Upgrade to the New Windows 11 OS | Microsoft

Discover the new Windows 11 and learn how to prepare for it. Explore new features, check compatibility, and see how to upgrade to our latest Windows OS.

16:19

system requirements say so

but well you can still install 11 without it though valvenewsMega

valvenewsMega

well MS could make the OS not boot if it doesnt detect a tpm in the refresh (edited)

otherwise i just wouldnt be here right now

Scamdisk

well MS could make the OS not boot if it doesnt detect a tpm in the refresh (edited)

well win32 could make the OS boot if it doesnt detect a tpm in the refresh. but win32 doesn't bother.

win32 is the microsoft we wanted

16:24

dude

16:24

this is all

16:24

marketing bs

16:24

fuck windows 100

16:24

11

16:24

interconnect my ass

16:24

i want my pc to connect to the internet when it's strictly necessary

win32

well win32 could make the OS boot if it doesnt detect a tpm in the refresh. but win32 doesn't bother.

well someone else will™️

16:25

then the way gets patched by MS and no one gives a shit (edited)

Scamdisk

No it's final

That would be a disaster, already has been criticised before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module#Criticism

Deleted User

Dearest, Windows 11, I need to confess something to you. Ever since I met you, I can only think of your clear, black eyes. You filled my heart with unexpected joy and my head with amazing dreams of us together. My love can only grow more and more each day. I dream of us oversized UI elements and from time to time I would gently stroke your black hair while you keep smiling. In moments like these my life would simply be complete. When I’m alone in the quiet, it always feels like I can hear your voice, whispering me sweet nothings, just like the blessed music of a dun dun dun. I wanted to tell you this from a long time ago, you are as essential to me as is my window. My Fanciful Windows 11, please be sure I mean everything this love letter carries to you with all my heart. Once I saw your lovely smile I knew there won’t be anything more precious to me in this whole world. I want to take you away from the ordinary, away from any upset or misfortune and we shall go together to betawiki. You are the best I ever had and I must be the luckiest person to have you in my life. You are my sunny day in summer. I’d give up all the update in the world to know that you will be right there beside me for the rest of our lives. My heart skips a beat at the thought that soon I will bring you white red to show you once more how dedicated I am to you, for all eternity. With all my love to you, Daniel

what the fuck

he has a template for this

can tell

16:27

no one can be bothered with writing a 2000 word love letter for windows 11

16:27

biden

lodocus

"oh just connect to your family"

They know the OS isn't that great or revolutionary so i feel like they're just avoiding the OS itself and just showcasing the very few added features of it.

16:29

idk i might be wrong i didn't try it

Embedded image

is the stream still going on?

16:36

so a crappy OS that limits how many pc's it can run on...... even 10 was better on this.

16:37

I will run win10 on my pentium 4 forever

Shroomer78

is the stream still going on?

It's finished.

o

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

even better if you can't run it when you already have 11

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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

they have been blessed

ImSwordQueen

even better if you can't run it when you already have 11

Same

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

they gotta be enabling ftpm in the firmware

just let me use the fucking installer for fuck sake

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16:59

then the shit fails like this

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Original image

17:01

do not steal

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17:02

I'm afraid I already stole it

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17:09

checkmate

I tried installing the Win11 checking tool

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17:12

good work Microsoft, quite a piece of work.

17:14

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17:14

On the Serbian page for Windows 11, the TPM 2.0 requirement isn't listed

17:15

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17:15

Too bad, I just looked on the more detailed page for Win11 requirements

17:15

UEFI required

17:15

and Secure Boot as well

17:16

Can we rename this to the worst os

17:16

like 80% of the pcs aren't compatible for god's sake

17:17

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17:17

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Deleted User

Can we rename this to the worst os

more reasons as to why.

rip skype

17:18

i mean. teams is taking his place

Or Microsoft Chat

It's way better than that ad infested corpse.

if ms actually won't support haswell (edited)

removing my 11 role

The only remarkable thing about it is it being a native app.

I'm going to be pissed

serjG

if ms actually won't support haswell (edited)

it doesn't

At least it's going to have languages

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They probably won't.

if it doesn't have tpm 2.0 thought luck

that's bs

or secure boot

17:19

or uefi

alright fellas it's time for tinfoil time

17:20

serjG

that's bs

To be fair, it has some serious flaws.

windows 11 will be a failure

17:20

we all know

Windows 11 is reminding me of the launch of Windows Vista

microsoft may have some deal with shintel

but worse

Windows Vista ran very badly on older PCs at the time...

to make windows 11 compatible with newer intel cpus

they had to put a limitation to make more ewaste

but at least it was able to be installed on those PCs

to force customers to buy newer cpus

Deleted User

Windows Vista ran very badly on older PCs at the time...

vista had a reason to run badly. Windows 11 HAS NOT A FUCKING REASON TO NOT RUN ON OLDER HARDWARE

Fancy UI animations and other junk?

it's not that bad

Vista had fancy graphics as well

17:21

Aero

on my 9 year old laptop windows 11 is running very well

I BET YOU MS HAS SECRET DEALS WITH INTEL

17:22

AND I BET YOU

^ obv

17:22

they will

THEY WILL GIMP WINDOWS 11 FOR RYZEN

ryzen isn't supported

ImSwordQueen

on my 9 year old laptop windows 11 is running very well

Yes, 10x was tablet-oriented, so again, it better be. (edited)

for now (edited)

this is worse than vista

windows vista when it came out it was too resource demaning

17:23

what is the reason of windows 11?

To kill off 10? (edited)

because it can't use tpm which is needed for bitlocker that some people will use? (edited)

17:23

some =/= not everyone

Windows Vista at least ran on older PCs of the time

17:24

Windows 11 will not even run on PCs that are just a few years old

welp. i can only hope microsoft doesn't kill the legacy bootloader

windows 11 not running on ryzen 5000

Deleted User

Windows 11 will not even run on PCs that are just a few years old

heck. it can't run on pcs that are a few months old

total

17:24

fucking

17:24

garbage

Deleted User

Windows Vista at least ran on older PCs of the time

10 Did that already though, so they probably wanted to change the pace and force people onto tpm for a change.

And just to think that we, at first, had hope for Windows 11

alas, people will notice

i swear

What makes Windows 11 worth installing?

Is a "fancy" UI enough?

17:25

Nope.

ApertureSketch

What makes Windows 11 worth installing?

it's smoother than 10. only that

17:25

the rest is hot garbage

17:26

i mean after a few updates it will become like 10

ApertureSketch

What makes Windows 11 worth installing?

Curerenly, only the performance but that's a 10x feature, not 11's.

17:26

So literally nothing.

not even 10x

17:26

it's 10's feature (edited)

17:26

or was

17:26

because it was stripped away from 10

IIRC the TPM requirement is for "security reasons"

for security reasons

17:27

we will lock you out of your house

17:27

so nobody can enter it

17:27

Scamdisk

IIRC the TPM requirement is for "security reasons"

Other words for stricting OS choice even further.

More like another attempt to get more data

i'm pretty sure

17:27

that intel and ms have planned a way

17:28

to lock pcs that you can't install an another OS

17:28

except the ones with no OS

how to kill off any Windows competition 101

i think they are killing themselves

Glad I'm still on 7 then.

microsoft: hmm. i didn't fucked up for a while with a main release. LET'S RELEASE A NEW VERSION WITH A STUPID LIMITATION WITH INTEL JUST TO MAKE MORE EWASTE

17:30

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17:30

time to make windows 11 turn to black

Can somehow see a big influx in Linux usage

same

Mhm

To be honest, I'm used to Windows so I'm probably not moving from Windows 8.1

Still can't believe it will happen, the requirement will either be dropped down or people won't care and upgrade regardless.

holy fuck. this dude was fucking right

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I've tried Linux (notably Ubuntu) and compatibility is still not great for my stuff

my man called 11 a dumpster fire and he was right

look, it's going to be ridiculous that hundreds of millions of devices won't support windows 11

17:32

thus people will stick to 10

17:32

or switch to linux

17:32

this is actually linux's time to shine

serjG

thus people will stick to 10

Sticking to 10 so microsoft will be forced to drop it down.

MassClaw

Still can't believe it will happen, the requirement will either be dropped down or people won't care and upgrade regardless.

I'm betting money that TPM 2.0 will be dropped in the official release.

Yes, me too.

ApertureSketch

I'm betting money that TPM 2.0 will be dropped in the official release.

yea that's what will happen pretty much

17:33

considering the upcoming backlash

Unless MS insists on it

17:33

And people stop caring

ApertureSketch

I'm betting money that TPM 2.0 will be dropped in the official release.

i fucking hope so too

Scamdisk

Unless MS insists on it

They won't, xbox one was a recent huge fuckup so they will be scared.

Scamdisk

And people stop caring

i mean HOW

17:34

i get for the discord rebrand that people will stop caring

17:34

but making that your main OS can't be upgraded to a new one and you need to change device is bogus

Scamdisk

Unless MS insists on it

If they don't drop it people will just make custom ISO's that remove the requirement.

they will

17:35

they will like to what they did on the leaked build

17:35

unless ms kills legacy support

Nothing stops MS from making the OS not boot without the requirements met

Scamdisk

Nothing stops MS from making the OS not boot without the requirements met

i mean. will they?

Nope, pretty sure that will flop, no way around it.

i think they will, considering NX, SSE2 and PAE weren't mandatory in 8.0 till like late 83xx

i kinda understand NX, SSE2 and PAE

17:36

but not TPM

they be saying bruh security

17:36

More like locking you out of your pc

17:37

Like some fucks at vbox dev team once said: "you don't own your PC anymore"

vbox is literally shit now

17:40

why would anyone use it

enterprise customers see oracle, they like it

Using VBox now is the browser equivalent of using Classilla.

Scamdisk

Like some fucks at vbox dev team once said: "you don't own your PC anymore"

11 just shows that they think they are apple except that's a far cry from reality.

classilla if it was owned by google

I don't have TPM 2.0 lol

17:51

or any TPM for that matter

"Since July 28, 2016, all new device models, lines or series (or if you are updating the hardware configuration of a existing model, line or series with a major update, such as CPU, graphic cards) must implement and enable by default TPM 2.0 (details in section 3.7 of the Minimum hardware requirements page). The requirement to enable TPM 2.0 only applies to the manufacturing of new devices." - https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/oem-tpm

Trusted Plaform Module (TPM) 2.0

Provides guidance on what an OEM should know about TPM 2.0 and the features that require it

17:53

surfaces probably have it enabled, but apparently no one else does

inb4 they take it off

17:53

They'll leave too many users cut off

I think it's official

17:55

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This was only reasonable in windows 9x-xp era

18:01

and even win2k seems to have run ok on any boards from 93-95 that take at least 64 mb of ram

im possibly gonna have a clean install of windows 10 version 21H1 x86 (that one can fit on a 4GB USB stick)

18:36

cuz apparently my pc doesnt support windows 11

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the iso size of that 21h1 x86 release (edited)

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i wanted to make the branding black but windows would fuck it up so bad

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

cuz apparently my pc doesnt support windows 11

after 2025 we'll be out of luck tbh

19:03

i'm already starting to consider linux

Deleted User

after 2025 we'll be out of luck tbh

except LTSC gets more support

um we'll see

not we'll see

19:04

it's 100% confirmed that LTSC gets more support

well MS made ltsc support 5 years instead of 10

19:04

and we'll see what bs they'll have with ltsc

19:05

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors

Windows Processor Requirements Windows 11 Supported Intel Processors

This specification details the processors that can be used with Customer Systems that include Windows Products (including Custom Images).

19:05

nice bullshit

IoTEnterpriseS gets 10 tho still (edited)

19:14

Also no EoL confirmed for Server 2022 yet

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19:24

Back to Windows 10

rip, that's sad specs

i still don't know WHY THE FUCK MICROSOFT CHOOSEN TO FUCKING SUPPORT FUCKING INTEL ATOMS BUT NOT FUCKING POWERFUL PROCESSORS

kek

19:38

haswell goes die

19:38

sad

19:38

probably it doesn't like my pc coz it's an i7-4700mq then

eh, as i said before, you could still do what MJD did

ms could still do checking for TPM on kernel level

but for the average biden

biden

, i5-4440 support just went away

And won't boot if it doesn't find one

https://twitter.com/FireCubeStudios/status/1408149973124911108

FireCube (@FireCubeStudios)

Microsoft Paint and Notepad UI updated in Windows 11 #Windows11 #FluentDesign

19:57

Wow they really be refreshing notepad after 26 years

36

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haswell goes die

I had no issue with my haswell laptop and I didn't use the windows 10 boot.wim

20:00

windows 11 just work

Ximonite

I had no issue with my haswell laptop and I didn't use the windows 10 boot.wim

oh wait. haswell computers have tpm 2.0 how

mine does

swag

the windows 11 leak is outdated

i mean you can totally apply the wim without meeting the uefi/tpm requirement

20:09

but a tpm != processor

Like i said, MS could add a tpm check into the kernel and not boot if it isn't found

yeah of course, currently with these builds though

We getting an official build on the 28th

looks good

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Nice de-11'd 21996

Scamdisk

Wow they really be refreshing notepad after 26 years

12*

20:16

Whoops thought u said paint

36*

no

26

95's 30th anniversary is in 2025

https://4sysops.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Notepad-in-Windows-1.0.png

20:18

looks the same to me

msnEyebrowRaise

Why did i forget about the fact that notepad was in 1.x-3.x

20:19

maybe not screwing enough with anything older than 98

20:20

Especially 1.x and 2.x

i mean the 95 version being 32-bit is probably much closer to today (edited)

Well NT4's version is even closer to today's

20:21

because it's NT and all

mhm true

Honestly i sometimes count a leftover as NT leftover rather dos shell Windows leftover

20:22

Because well, everything has been NT for both consumers and businesses since XP

technically vista is way closer to today because it's 6.0 and it has the 10 notepad icon sfodjsflsdfjr

Scamdisk

Nice de-11'd 21996

With broken search

20:30

i can't get search to work :/

I think they removed the old search?

Ok so 11 still has some 32bit support, well the PE released in the HRK does

Deleted User

I think they removed the old search?

even bringing the old search does nothing

Scamdisk

Ok so 11 still has some 32bit support, well the PE released in the HRK does

do 32 bit PCs supporting TPM 2.0 even exist

Pe doesn't require TPM

probably

idk wouldn't make sense to me to do 32 bit pe for 64 bit only os

Only setup does for now

20:33

There's ARM32 pe too seemnly

enderman stream is going great

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Ah yes, defender flagged edge

edge is now a virus

20:34

great for microsoft to flag it

Basically MS gives out PEs for unsupported hardware, great

20:37

inb4 one day a random 11 build leaks in x86

@Scamdisk where is the link of the x86 version of PE?

https://mega.nz/file/pE8ihY6K#EdnmMm6kvDxpb64acoBSjS_EyXCGUiCyYlch00ZwTaY

205.1 MB file on MEGA

20:41

https://mega.nz/folder/pVkQTCgS#azHs4PCrupyxe-qB08vDFg (edited)

0 byte folder on MEGA

20:42

arm ones too

i found them on betawiki lol

20:43

ty anyway

20:47

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fuck w11 but

20:51

that's hot

windows is loa WindowsLoading

WindowsLoading

ng files...

20:52

[lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll]

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21:07

it doesn't want to load anymore. i wonder why lol

21:13

i love classic

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windows 10 theme on windows 11

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21:32

the reverse works as well

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23:55

i think ms is killing 32bit

23:57

oh dang it requires tpm 2.0

23:57

thats like a thing

yeah windows will be 64-bit only

23:58

but of course WoW64 won't die

the tpm 2.0 thing kinda pisses me off tho

23:59

ik it can be bypassed for now

23:59

but like come on microsoft

it's a fake req just to force people to buy new hardware

00:00

once GA happens expect the bypass not to work though

00:00

however mods could be done to disable/work around that

Drips

i think ms is killing 32bit

duh no shit

00:01

you ever seen new PC that is 32 bit?

wait a sec

00:01

lmfao

00:01

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00:01

nvm

00:01

its there

it does lol

just didnt see it

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windows-11/

Compatibility for Windows 11- Compatibility Cookbook

Learn how to enable your apps are compatible for Windows 11

00:01

check this

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core duo was last mainstream intel 32bit cpu, then i believe some atom cpus after that

hard floor = required soft floor = recommended

eh im sticking with 10/7 anyways

00:02

this new thing looks like it kills customization

win32

core duo was last mainstream intel 32bit cpu, then i believe some atom cpus after that

doubt anyone's using 10 on that atm

00:03

core duos possible but atoms highly impossible

00:03

and besides people owning core duos are a super small percentile of the computer marketshare

wait theres a minimum resolution now

00:03

wat

00:04

of 720p

1280x720, most screens already have that

00:04

nothing to be worried about really

00:04

worry about tpm and uefi that's the hardest part

00:04

windows 10 isn't even useable on 800x600 or 1024x768 tbh

uefi isnt as big a deal for me as tpm

yeah, well, they also want crazy cpu reqs but that's currently just the recommended spec

00:06

basically cpus after 2017 or so

Drips

uefi isnt as big a deal for me as tpm

Windows 10 is gonna be supported for quite a long time, up until the point where TPM 2.0 Motherboards and Laptops are gonna be pretty much everywhere.

00:09

But as for now I don't see like even 3% of the MS community using it, they really didn't think this through.

ApertureSketch

Windows 10 is gonna be supported for quite a long time, up until the point where TPM 2.0 Motherboards and Laptops are gonna be pretty much everywhere.

2025 is a long time? (edited)

2029

it's just 4 years from now.

ApertureSketch

2029

that's for ltsc

00:09

or wait where did you even get the 2029 from

Deleted User

or wait where did you even get the 2029 from

Yeah ltsc, but even so I think in about 4 years time everything will have TPM 2.0 implemented.

most home users don't have ltsc

00:11

they'll just be forced to buy new hardware

00:11

making ms's plan a success

00:12

for comparison

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it anoys me that even if i want to buy ltsc they wont sell it to me :p

don't buy it, simple

00:26

you can just use server 20348 btw as well (edited)

its right there for gods sake

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08:56

i just doı-nt fucking get it

08:57

the method works for everyone but me

08:57

just wtf do you mean by no source the direcorty is right and the cab files are id there

09:00

literally every single guide shows how to install it via cmd

09:01

i am literally going crazy over this 3.5 and microsofts fucking bullshit

just why microsoft why

09:12

why did you put net 3.5 behind a fucking windows features installation wall

09:13

you cant install the damn thing offline and also experience difficulties while trying to solve the issue

09:14

just fuck you microsoft!

09:14

fuck you!!

09:18

can i manually install it?

09:19

i mean literally manually

09:21

cant

09:21

i need a damn permission to do shit on winsxs folder

09:21

take ownership didnt work

lodocus

you cant install the damn thing offline and also experience difficulties while trying to solve the issue

kek, you can

10:51

Dism /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFX3 /All /Source:D:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess

damnbro

10:51

read a little above

ohh

10:52

my bad

10:52

windows 11? it worked for for me tho

11

10:52

idk what to do

idk if it has to do with the "debloat" you did

10:52

windows likes to break

dont think so

10:53

ive only deleted useless uwp apps and some winaero tweaks

10:54

ive thought maybe disabling windows update is why but reverting that only changed the error code

I did the thing

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>5 years old

10:55

it has to be 4 or less

10:55

and 8th gen+ idk about amd though

lodocus

ive thought maybe disabling windows update is why but reverting that only changed the error code

well, the first thing i do when i install windows is mess with features

10:55

because they break later for me

10:56

and yes, they did but on windows 7 not 11

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windows-11/ sorta good news for people who don't have TPM 2

Compatibility for Windows 11- Compatibility Cookbook

Learn how to enable your apps are compatible for Windows 11

they still want tpm 1.2...

11:03

at least it isn't that bad

11:04

but still. why do you need fucking TPM

to force people to buy new hardware most obviously

TPM 2.0 is the equivalent of going to a restaurant and buying your food for about a dollar but then they force you to buy their napkin which is worth over 50.

probably they want to make it more rich friendly i guess

11:23

(they fucking support intel atoms ffs)

ImSwordQueen

probably they want to make it more rich friendly i guess

trying to reach macos level

11:24

hmm

11:24

i see

hey scam do you know any way to install 3.5 without enanling feature thing or cmd/ps?

there is, but you need to edit registry + files from another OS

making an alternative installer for windows 11

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nice

13:49

should stay working till GA (edited)

based on 22000.1

13:50

we will see if TPM isn't required to boot

13:50

and only for setup

Scamdisk

there is, but you need to edit registry + files from another OS

go on

lodocus

hey scam do you know any way to install 3.5 without enanling feature thing or cmd/ps?

why not via dism?

read above

lodocus

read a little above

^

ok my only laptop with uefi and secure boot don't have TPM

15:49

welp i don't have any computers which can run windows 11 officially

same

15:54

even my dad's laptop which is one year old (edited)

i hope ms doesn't add the TPM lock after setup as well

since it's a 7th gen i5 and not an 8th one

so unlucky

15:58

if it wasn't for TPM that laptop could be revived with windows 11

15:58

so sad.

Ximonite

I did the thing

don't use this

17:24

the pc health thing

17:25

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

Detection Script to help identify why your PC isn't Windows 11 ready - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

17:26

Image attachment

17:26

and i still got a not ready

17:31

spoiler: you'll probably need tpm 2.0 and secure boot

17:31

don't worry about secure boot since you'll probably be able to disable it after install

lodocus pinned a message to this channel. 25/06/2021 18:31

I want my syncmaster back

Based channel rename

19:11

Even better because I'll never experience that shit lol

the tpm shit is NOT a dev build thing

19:14

it seems they have some cpu soft floor requirements

19:14

which literally don't matter

19:14

the only thing that matters is having tpm and secure boot

19:14

and it even seems tpm 1.2 is gonna be fit for the job

19:15

they've also updated the pc health check shit

19:15

it seems like 8th gen and up intel and zen 2 and up are the only ones to make the cut for the soft floor req

19:16

but as i've said it really doesn't matter

19:16

at most you'll be able to install just fine with a warning

19:16

they're probably trying to force the oems to actually make computers fit for windows 11

19:18

this is gonna be exactly like vista

19:18

they up the requirements for computers on the oem side not to be completely like turds and everyone starts crying

19:20

anyways out of that wall of text they're possibly updating the explorer interface

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eeeh

22:14

it's just the 10 one with 7 command bar

not really

22:26

well not entirely

Vruh 2

anyways out of that wall of text they're possibly updating the explorer interface

Why killing ribbon?

22:33

Sounds strange

ImSwordQueen

Why killing ribbon?

becuz it's useless

22:35

who actually uses that

I do

right click does the same thing

Its still useful

22:37

That thing is plain useless

22:37

Just remove it

Vruh 2

it seems like 8th gen and up intel and zen 2 and up are the only ones to make the cut for the soft floor req

u gotta be kidding me

23:06

my cpu is 7th gen lmao

apparently they gave up the soft req and hard req shit and now i have no idea how it works

23:07

don't worry though

23:07

we'll probably be able to install with just a warning

23:07

that's what microsoft said i think

wait they gave up on tpm 2.0???

no

23:07

they made it a hard requirement

oh

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23:37

8.1 users

23:37

:(

awww no win11 for me

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My pc is compatible for win 11

wait

01:59

tpm 1.2 is gonna work?

01:59

cause it says ok

athe52

awww no win11 for me

you might have secure boot in bios, my haswell laptop does so this might too

03:07

also MBR on windows 11 lul

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03:10

o_o

03:10

well then um rip

pfff like the community wont bypass that lmao

yeah ik retrobars allready been confirmed working

03:12

just like another shot in the foot ya know

03:12

that windows 11 is gonna be worse in every way

windows 11 community edition when

03:13

ETA: portal 2 intro

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am I the only one that never even heard of TPM before windows 11

Me

windows 11's cpu requirements are gonna be hard floor

05:07

goodbye to anyone still using hardware from before 2018

05:07

lol

05:08

what the fuck is this

and people said 10 was bad

from an ui standpoint i still think 11 is better but the minimum requirements are totally bonkers

05:09

ryzen only 2600 and above

05:09

2400g and below totally unsupported

05:09

intel only 8th gen and above

from an ui standpoint i still think 11 is better

eh I don't agree but either way I like 7 UI more than both

then again 7 is 12 years old

7 could play call of duty

05:10

jk

Me when I have Ryzen 5 2600

lucky idiot

05:10

i have a 2400g

05:10

right on the cut out

05:10

i'm on zen

05:10

1 (edited)

05:10

2600 and above use zen+

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3400g looks like it is zen 2 but it's zen+

05:11

amd's naming scheme is shit

Then again don't see a point to upgrading, nothing that catches the eye.

2400g should've been 1400g

05:11

3400g should've been 2400g

i think ati pulled this with some gpus. i believe that some radeon 9xxx are really based on the 8xxx architecture

05:13

x5xx/x6xx and even x1050 are 9xxx architecture

https://twitter.com/shen/status/1408284995131645956

Shen Ye (@shen)

Thanks to Windows 11, people are scalping TPM2.0 modules as well now. $24.90 ➡ $99.90 in just 12 hours

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05:23

was bound to happen

I honestly don't think imma be getting TPM

you should have at least 1.2 if you're on skylake

I have nothing

05:26

that's what I use https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/88185/intel-core-i5-6400-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-30-ghz.html

Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz) Product S...

Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

Vruh 2

goodbye to anyone still using hardware from before 2018

welp. not exactly

07:06

if microsoft is lazy they will not implement TPM straight into the OS

07:06

so if you bypass setup you can use windows 11 just fine without TPM

TPM is not the issue @ImSwordQueen

09:23

cpu requirements are the issue now

what if

09:24

they say they are

09:24

but it isn't

if we're expecting the worst

09:24

the cpu reqs are now hard floor

09:24

and anyone still on zen 1, and intel 7th gen or lower

09:24

well

09:24

goodbye to them

we have to see when GA comes out

if it isn't as bad as i'm expecting it's just softfloor

or the first insider build

which is coming in 2 days by the way

09:25

stay tuned

09:26

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09:26

on 2400g

09:26

(zen 1)

if we can bypass it then it's gucci

windows insider says this

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have you tried offline enrolling

it's confusing whether it's hard or soft floor or if they just did away with that

09:27

why would i need to do that

09:27

i have an insider account

probably it doesn't enroll you like that

that's just something that appears if you don't meet any of the requirements

but probably offline enrolling works

in my case

09:27

cpu

Vruh 2

why would i need to do that

because it didn't gave me any warning about not meeting the requirements?

i read this and i think it means i'll be able to install it with possible issues

oh i thought the dev and beta builds were disabled

iunno

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ok windows 11 loves to do the "something happened"

so my pc wont run 11?

11:44

i wont call my system outdated for that. i will cal it feature

lodocus

so my pc wont run 11?

Yes

11:47

people aren't believing it, but they merged the soft and hard floors to make the minimum system spec now

11:47

so, cpu generation and tpm 2.0 are now minimum and not recommended

11:48

cpu generation (all cpus from about late 2017+)

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12:05

2012 pc

my 2014 laptop has tpm and secureboot

I have no TPM but I have secure boot

i have uefi and secure boot but no tpm

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/microsoft-has-set-a-deadline-for-this-accessory-in-laptops-with-windows-11/articleshow/83867933.cms#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20report%20in,%2DDefinition%20(HD)%20or%20better

Windows 11: Microsoft has set a deadline for this accessory in lap...

Starting January 1, 2023, all laptops running Windows 11 should have a webcam.

12:59

Telemetry 100

ill stick to Windows 12 Lite >:(

Windows 11 is now a new Spyware!

15:27

No one wants 11 tbh

no /s

no kickbacks from mcafee and other shovelware vendors though

New worst Microsoft OS... correct

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I disagree with not licensing Windows on a laptop - a consumer already paid enough money for the laptop/desktop, why not get a license for Windows along with it

Scamdisk

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/microsoft-has-set-a-deadline-for-this-accessory-in-laptops-with-windows-11/articleshow/83867933.cms#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20report%20in,%2DDefinition%20(HD)%20or%20better

asus zephyrus g and tuf f series: breathes heavily (edited)

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100% CPU generation and TPM

16:28

"security" more like sneakier telemetry

How did we get to a point where a 3770K don't meet the minimum requirements for an OS, funny thing is that you can run 20H2 on a basic Pentium 4 if you wanted to.

16:32

Thank You, Microsoft.

16:32

That's why

ApertureSketch

How did we get to a point where a 3770K don't meet the minimum requirements for an OS, funny thing is that you can run 20H2 on a basic Pentium 4 if you wanted to.

nah 3770k

trash

Alright fair point, Bill Gates needs to buy his 50th mansion for the week.

intel atom better

ApertureSketch

Alright fair point, Bill Gates needs to buy his 50th mansion for the week.

yeah, umm, maybe panos wants a new home

16:35

he didn't showcase his home for no reason, he was looking for a buyer

ApertureSketch

Alright fair point, Bill Gates needs to buy his 50th mansion for the week.

Satya Nadella

valvenewsMega

and Panos, too

16:36

panos

panosserve

sadpanos

16:49

panos

panay

Scamdisk

Satya Nadella

Satan Nadella

Sounds like a GTA 4 npc

serjG

Satan Nadella

satan nutella

still won't eat it

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most nomal people dont know how to install a web browser on linux

17:22

they gain having to deal with less complaints

17:22

i heard a quote once

That's why app stores exist on distros

"linux is like a seccond tech job"

serjG

That's why app stores exist on distros

again most people dont use appstores on desktop

17:23

i dont know a single person whos ever used the ms store

17:23

most people expext to just be able to type in google chrome

17:23

and get chrome

17:24

and the truth of the matter is most people would pick windows over linux anywya

windows 11 might be a flop but it isnt gonna be a HUGE flop

ApertureSketch

Alright fair point, Bill Gates needs to buy his 50th mansion for the week.

he also bought one for next weekend

valvenewsMega

If windows 11 is out for a couple weeks and gets positive reviews I'm upgrading

Assuming your hardware is capable

most x58 systems are on ice here, 24 threads and rejected while people on 4c/8t coffee lake cpus will be running it

And atoms

18:44

Lol

It says my hardware is capable

Congrats ig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stY62SfDsxA

What To Know About Windows 11

70% of windows users will get locked out (edited)

spoiler: your older hardware. throw that away

18:45

useless

18:45

buy a new gaming pc

nothing i have qualifies based on the cpu req, and only one based on tpm/uefi/secure boot reqs

My 2016 pre-built gaming pc from best buy is somehow able to run 11

because pre-builts after windows 8 had and have to have tpm (edited)

18:47

btw this will be a failure

18:47

ME and vista weren't that bad. windows 11 in the other hand..

no one i know irl will be able to meet the cpu req, including every pc in my current and previous workplaces!

Didn't vista have basically the same fate tho?

same

Deleted User

Didn't vista have basically the same fate tho?

nope

18:48

it can run but it would run horrible

18:48

windows 11 would not run at all

Vista didn't enforce any requirements

probably only ram

18:49

but that is understandable

Not even ram

18:50

It's only PE that requires 256 mb minimum

it did for 256mb of ram

18:50

ye that

Can be bypassed using dism

18:50

And 11..I guess

we still don't know about 11 if it would lock the system too

It will die upon booting like 8.x does in relation to nx, pae

They might not require the weird cpu thing In the final version of 11

welp i wouldn't run 11 either way if it requires always on bluetooth

I hope so

i'm still copeing about the death of legacy (edited)

ImSwordQueen

welp i wouldn't run 11 either way if it requires always on bluetooth

my hp z600 has no provision for anything wireless! i assume that is true for considerably newer workstation systems

Deleted User

If windows 11 is out for a couple weeks and gets positive reviews I'm upgrading

pussy

19:05

none of my pcs can do 11 based on the reqs

my main pc is a 7th gen intel

19:43

so its 1 cpu gen too far back

19:43

:p

my main is an i5 4590 (edited)

I use chad 6th gen

my old new old main will be an athlon ii 640 (edited)

my main is an intel core 2 quad

ImSwordQueen

my main is an intel core 2 quad

awesome

20:13

lol

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

my main is an i5 4590 (edited)

i7-4700mq

I decided to main windows 11

23:11

liking it a lot

23:11

almost as much as 8.1

ok but does your hw even support it

23:12

?

Deleted User

ok but does your hw even support it

yes

ah, nice

23:12

well, i really like the animations lol

same

23:12

animations are really nice

you still didn't see much as 21996 is missing the wsx package (windows shell experience)

23:13

hoping we'll get that in insider on jun 28

23:16

oh forgot to say, it'd include stuff like redesigned settings, floating taskbar, and those icons and such we saw in the MS event

23:18

on june 28 the first build should roll out

23:18

only to some devices mind you

23:19

if you don't meet tpm req of 2.0 but have 1.2 and your cpu not in the gen list you can still receive builds but until rtm only

23:19

that's as far as we know actually, MS could change shit

23:20

well yes, you could hack builds in the same way as we did until rtm

23:21

after that MS might add kernel checks or something for the requirements

Ximonite

I decided to main windows 11

so you basically decided to main 10

23:25

cuz the leaked build is just reskin of cobalt

23:26

I would wait for the insider build if I was you

there are some actual new features tho

like what only new thing is the snap thing

not really a new feature but they upgraded the sign in option stuff

23:29

so now I can use my fingerprint reader on my laptop without the lenovo software

23:29

couldn't do that on 10

well idk I don't even have fingerprint reader

most of the reason I'm maining windows 11 is to prove @ImSwordQueen wrong troll

troll

Ximonite

most of the reason I'm maining windows 11 is to prove @ImSwordQueen wrong troll

troll

You are maining 21996

23:45

We have to wait the official insider

the actual windows 11 features from the trailer weren't too bad

23:46

just the trailer itself was garbage

Final release will be better

I hope

Its going to be 10 2 same as the performance

Ximonite

just the trailer itself was garbage

i don't like how it conspicuously showed glass everywhere, while the actual UI is not very glassy at all

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literally early beta already has multiple useful features

23:58

I wanna rename the channel but I don't wanna start shit

23:59

the way you guys are jumping to conclusions reminds me of the people who hate vista with a passion cause the rtm was garbage

23:59

fuck it I'm renaming

the system requirements drove me off the deep end again

*upgraded the ui

00:03

it looks way better and you can fuck off

00:05

can't say much about how much it spies cause the insider stuff isn't out

00:06

21996 is the 11 shell on top of 10 internals (edited)

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no but I assume that's cause they remade it

Ximonite

can't say much about how much it spies cause the insider stuff isn't out

what happens when you do netstat /b when you're idling at the desktop. there are usually connections when diagnostic policy service is enabled, and possibly more

literally hating on an early beta cause it's unfinished smh

win32

what happens when you do netstat /b when you're idling at the desktop. there are usually connections when diagnostic policy service is enabled, and possibly more

I don't think comparing insider build to final build telemetry is good idea

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so it is not as busy as 1803 home oob, or even win7 post-diagtrack

would be really epic if it stays like this for rtm

i'd expect this goes away if diagnostic policy service is disabled.

Mods finally renamed this channel to something intelligent

ha ha. right. (edited)

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02:37

huh

02:37

this did a lot better than i thought it would

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win32

better than the "kernel extending like dogs" one.

what's that

04:10

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daniel used his letter template to make a gay love letter in the past WLS. and he said that he and his bf would do that

i wanna see it

Deleted User

I would wait for the insider build if I was you

you do realize

04:21

shit old message sorry

04:22

21996 is an insider build technically

04:22

so you will receive insider updates

04:23

@Ximonite i've been using 21996 because it's pretty seamless to upgrade from 21390

04:23

so i honestly don't care

21996 is literally 21390 but with the new ui and branding

Windows 11 is literally NT 3.1

kek

10:05

Windows 11 is literally cavemen work at this rate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20mmuOkpbow

Windows 11 Hardware Compatibility Chaos

>how-to-enable-tmp

so, 1- no the majority of people don't have tpm 2.0 as we've seen 2- sir you're only caring about the 7th gen since u use them but what about the previous gens as well? other than that, well, clearly highlited the shit situation rn

Ximonite

no but I assume that's cause they remade it

Welp they confirmed it that you cant no longer move it

https://www.deskmodder.de/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_11_auch_ohne_TPM_und_Secure_Boot_installieren

10:53

Yet another bypass that might not work with the final GA release (edited)

I wonder how you would classify the non-sunset or glow wallpapers in 11 Like... abstract paper...?

https://twitter.com/wowstartsnow/status/1408957143567511553?s=19

Windows On Windows (@wowstartsnow)

There will be a Windows 11 “custom image” for “special purpose” systems that will NOT need a TPM 2.0 chip.

(Source: https://t.co/xrFw6u99VR)

13:20

99% ms isnt implementing TPM into the os but only in the setup

the real problem is still the cpu generation limit

Scamdisk

the real problem is still the cpu generation limit

We have to see that

it's stupid but at least it isn't enforced

yet

aqua_stare

Probably still the same. because ms is lazy as fuck

windows 10.1 lmao

windows 10 but it's a downgrade

i wouldnt doubt it, considering till 8375/8400, the nx requirement wasnt even enforced in 8

windows 9??? hmm

Scamdisk

i wouldnt doubt it, considering till 8375/8400, the nx requirement wasnt even enforced in 8

what does the 8th gen have to not support 7th gens cpus

winload now checks cpuid and for tpm status/version, which it has been doing for a few years now, but will likely be bolstered by RTM

i like how they think a Ryzen 1st gen is too bad for windows 10

win32

winload now checks cpuid and for tpm status/version, which it has been doing for a few years now, but will likely be bolstered by RTM

that's a problem then

GUYZ WINDOWS 11 IS TOO POWERFUL FOR RYZEN 7 1700!!!!!111

ms can use that to remove support for older cpus

I hope they dont cause i wanted to test windows 11 on my pentium D troll

troll

when your new version of windows can compete with windows 8.1 so you have to cripple it

basically saying fuck you to owners of older gen cpus, even if they are still usable even today

you can still use a Core 2 Duo in 2021

welp. they have to make 8.1 superior somehow

and 21996 runs just fine on them

not for everything but still

10240 best windows 10 don't @ me

10240 still has metro

13:25

so . that's good

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not yet, but they will

1507???

13:25

that actually refused to install on my system lmao

ImSwordQueen

10240 still has metro

tho tbf i just the normal start menu with no tiles pinned

wait. will the metro settings port over from 8.1 to 10 10240

1511 installed fine though

i don't use metro at all so

when 1507 edge gets ported to over to 8.1 aka never /s

bet

13:26

id never use it but bet

ms actually killed the edge porting for legacy windows by releasing edge for legacy windows has well

13:27

so nice

ImSwordQueen

ms actually killed the edge porting for legacy windows by releasing edge for legacy windows has well

there was none so. they killed the nothing

thank google for that i guess

not only google

13:28

because ms was able to kill 7, 8.0 and 8.1 compability

13:28

by using some functions of 10 that those oses don't have

13:30

btw here an another joke

13:30

https://twitter.com/Hikari_Calyx/status/1409096281725624326?s=19

Hikari Calyx (@Hikari_Calyx)

Hikari PE Project V9.0 that based on Windows 11 is going to drop Legacy support for x64 PC. Comparing to TPM and CPU generation requirements, I think asking user to change to UEFI only (secure boot can be disabled) isn't that terrible.

13:31

why killing legacy support. that's honestly retarded

13:31

it's not like fucking PE doesn't have legacy support.

the fucking base PE is also distributed in ARM32 and x86 ffs (edited)

i swear someone would fork his project and make it compatible with legacy

13:33

100%

13:33

or the hiren boot PE people would make it

still i gotta give them probs for thinking cpu gen and tpm req are stupid (edited)

they are

13:34

if you say otherwise you're retarded

especially the cpu gen req

13:34

tpm can be bypassed

13:37

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/2ij7JHZGth7WVyl6HAHxlgJA8JWcAGd1i8pDVBU_KZ8/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/E42fDXxWEAgnV4y.jpg%3Alarge

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13:37

easy fix

"approval from MS" well, no, people will get around it without approval (edited)

Scamdisk

"approval from MS" well, no, people will get around it without approval (edited)

like themes kek

ImSwordQueen

why killing legacy support. that's honestly retarded

No reason to maintain legacy os support

hyperlaugh

1

bruh deadass

Deleted User

No reason to maintain legacy os support

you're retarded

15:25

actually brain dead

imagine joining a legacy windows server to hate on legacy windows hyperlaugh

hyperlaugh

yeah well this guy is clearly doing so bigflushed

bigflushed

I don't understand these people

same

ban /s

Ximonite

imagine joining a legacy windows server to hate on legacy windows hyperlaugh

hyperlaugh

i was just doing a little more trolling

i noticed that the "new" old windows 11 log in sound still had 7's sound in it

15:52

at the end you can hear it

Ximonite

ban /s

if only i had the chance...

15:53

you don't wanna see that

in the 1 second mark

15:54

sad that they are replacing it

ImSwordQueen

sad that they are replacing it

wait their replacing the new startup sound in the final version?

new startup sound is way better wym sad

Ximonite

new startup sound is way better wym sad

no i mean are they getting rid of the new one in the final version

oh shit

15:58

the sound imswordking sent isn't gonna be in rtm?

Ximonite

the sound imswordking sent isn't gonna be in rtm?

maybe not

sad

Deleted User

no i mean are they getting rid of the new one in the final version

no?

16:00

where do you even get your information from

Deleted User

no?

thats what imswordking said

16:01

he said they're replacing THE OLD WINDOWS 7 ONE

16:01

my god

Deleted User

wait their replacing the new startup sound in the final version?

yep. they are changing it

Deleted User

he said they're replacing THE OLD WINDOWS 7 ONE

i didn't say that

16:01

i said they are replacing the NEW one

ImSwordQueen

sad that they are replacing it

^

16:02

how

this is a placeholder

how do you have so much info tho @ImSwordQueen

no

Ximonite

how do you have so much info tho @ImSwordQueen

twitter

who tweeted about it

16:02

send tweet

HOLD THE FUCK

16:02

HOLY SHIT

?

found it again

16:04

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1408109394550792202?s=19

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

here's Microsoft's official video on the Windows 11 startup sound https://t.co/ASIzPaQSxr https://t.co/zeLzZmL605

Likes

409

huh?

16:05

interesting

sounds pretty similar tho

even the new one has the 7 reference

16:05

at the end

16:05

but it's less noticeable (edited)

not a big deal if that's the startup sound imo

16:06

I like the current one better but not by a lot

ImSwordQueen

even the new one has the 7 reference

lol, i doubt someone's gonna notice

i'm surprised they are bringing it back

Sadly still no shutdown, logon and log off sounds

not a bad looking uwp application gasp

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lol

what he doin there

i think microsoft was planning windows 11 for 2 years now

they did actually, starting with FE i suppose

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/24/20708355/microsoft-windows-10-accidental-release-windows-insiders-start-menu

Microsoft reveals new Windows 10 Start menu in accidental internal ...

Oops.

18:15

even before

this was for 10x iirc

18:15

10x and 11 were both planned

18:16

but 10x was scrapped in favor of 11

i mean. probably not

18:16

because of the xbox branch

xbox branch isn't for xbox

yeah but why would it be 10x

18:21

"the small is hard to precise click to"

18:21

if only they didn't made the 8.1 show desktop button literally a piece of paper

18:22

also in 10

ImSwordQueen

yeah but why would it be 10x

to be fair i've always known it to be for 10x but now i don't know anymore

18:24

ask on BW

also that is way before 10x

Deleted User

xbox branch isn't for xbox

then what branch is it

ui iirc

20:25

ms doesn't even release this info publicly so it's just speculation (edited)

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Yeah MS is in serious shit atm

I've realized that most companies keep getting into more shit as time moves on, feel like it's a trend.

where new build

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21:02

ffs microsoft

still 5 pm 6/27 in eastern Canada. probably will have to wait until the afternoon where you are

ye

21:06

i mean the preview stream happened at like 6pm or smth here

21:08

wonder how much of an shitshow its going to be

lodocus

where new build

should be at 8pm

lodocus

i mean the preview stream happened at like 6pm or smth here

yeah it happened at 6pm, you're currently in the same timezone as me

21:13

~~until DST at least~~

where u live

21:14

i mean what country

3pm mountain time western us

21:14

it's about 2pm in redmond right now

oh hello neighbor

lol. hi (edited)

@lodocus what are your specs

21:54

you might not get the insider preview

i5 2500

22:31

no tpm

22:32

managed to install leaked 11 by merging w10 setup and 11s install wim

yeah, so, umm, you might not get the insider build

maybe the same trick will work again but idk

22:32

we will see

possible but you'll need to manually update

22:32

just heard from an MS internal

22:32

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22:33

you'll need to meet the previously called "hard floor" to receive insider builds

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this is for the "soft floor", or basically for the rtm (edited)

nah i dont need to update

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

WAIT NO HASWELL SUPPORT? NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

22:36

FUCK THAT

lodocus

nah i dont need to update

huh

wdym huh

22:44

disable wu from winaero and system still runs fine

how will you install the new insider build then

22:47

manually?

7pm cest june 28th

22:50

it's 2pm for me

Deleted User

how will you install the new insider build then

when the build gets released on june 28th i will manually try to upgrade to that build from this leaked build

22:53

and i will stay there for a bit long while and update to some future insider build manually and repeat until rtm

22:53

thats my basic rock bottom roadmap

fair

22:56

i've already moved to linux for the most part actually, have a 10ltsc dualboot in fact now

22:57

will be missing out on the real hardware experience but well, haswells.....

Have you guys seen the new Windows 11 build leak? I sure have and I have two problems with it. One, the fucking logo sucks ass. Two, it's Windows. As an avid user of GNU/Linux, I feel personally attacked that anyone would use Windows over the absolute Chad operating system, GNU/Linux. Our logo never changes, ever. It's been Tux from the beginning. Microsoft and Apple feel the need to update logos every single time they take a piss and it is abso-fucking-lutely annoying. This new logo they didn't even get creative. They took a fucking blue square, put some thin lines in it, and boom, trash fucking logo. If you could describe it, it's the old logo looking at you head on, who overdosed on crack, and passed out drunk. They didn't even use the cooler start button logo. Seriously. This logo seriously is trash, it's fucking garbage. Who the hell would like it.

cool copypasta

Deleted User

Have you guys seen the new Windows 11 build leak? I sure have and I have two problems with it. One, the fucking logo sucks ass. Two, it's Windows. As an avid user of GNU/Linux, I feel personally attacked that anyone would use Windows over the absolute Chad operating system, GNU/Linux. Our logo never changes, ever. It's been Tux from the beginning. Microsoft and Apple feel the need to update logos every single time they take a piss and it is abso-fucking-lutely annoying. This new logo they didn't even get creative. They took a fucking blue square, put some thin lines in it, and boom, trash fucking logo. If you could describe it, it's the old logo looking at you head on, who overdosed on crack, and passed out drunk. They didn't even use the cooler start button logo. Seriously. This logo seriously is trash, it's fucking garbage. Who the hell would like it.

00:13

smh, firefox comes built in with most distros

00:14

chromium

00:14

palemoon

00:15

waterfox

Deleted User

waterfox

no one uses that shit bruh

00:15

no one uses palemoon and waterfox or whatever

00:15

even fucking edge

00:15

the chromium one

00:15

also regular chrome is for linux

Deleted User

no one uses palemoon and waterfox or whatever

you don't, troll

00:16

i don't use waterfox but i do use palemoon

00:16

and i know a bunch of people using waterfox

Deleted User

and i know a bunch of people using waterfox

yeah but linux isnt compatible with alot of steam games

Deleted User

no one uses palemoon and waterfox or whatever

pale moon is irrelevant and anyone who uses it should be shot

kek

waterfox on the othe rhand

00:17

is based and redpilled

lmao

i use wf

i just used palemoon today actually, for fireftp

00:17

no more no less

00:17

how is waterfox different from firefox at all tho

i touched palemoon once and it sucked and waws really slow

and pm

Deleted User

how is waterfox different from firefox at all tho

privacy

Deleted User

how is waterfox different from firefox at all tho

how about you read about it

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

privacy

oh my fucking god

00:17

we're not your google

00:18

what kinda shit do yall need to keep private?

wf keeps you farther away from the mozilla foundation as well

nothing i just don't want big guvvy and china to have all of my data laid out in a neat excel spreadsheet

very woke organization

isn't waterfox based on older firefox tho?

latest esr

00:19

wf classic is based on older firefox

ahhhhhhh

00:19

interesting

00:19

i thought it's like palemoon lmao my bad (edited)

00:19

i have to give it a go then

wf also has custom css enabled by default

00:19

so you just drop it in

00:19

no need for settings fuckery

don't use that tbh

00:20

i just need my extensions

00:20

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00:20

old image but still

00:21

privacy is important

redid the health check, fuck secure boot good in theory, otherwise bad

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athe52

redid the health check, fuck secure boot good in theory, otherwise bad

microsoft must be planning something big with all this secure boot and processor stuff

Deleted User

no one uses palemoon and waterfox or whatever

I'm no one F

00:32

ohi no one

Deleted User

what kinda shit do yall need to keep private?

mfw its on the same level as firefox https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/waterfox_classic.html https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox.html

02:27

wrong reply

02:27

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

why ping me bruh (edited)

02:29

o

02:29

mfw idc and waterfox is still better

actually its slightly higher troll

troll

02:30

also i still use waterfox

02:30

just wanted to point it out

02:33

tbh these days theres not a good reason for me to keep using waterfox lul

i might just write a giant wall of text

03:33

to explain how will the windows 11 clusterfuck work

03:34

and hopefully clear something up along the way

windows 11 home requiring microsoft account reminds me of 1809 OOBE situation https://www.pcworld.com/article/3409788/how-microsoft-made-it-harder-to-create-windows-10-local-accounts.html

How Microsoft made it harder to create Windows 10 local accounts

If you’re thinking about resetting your Windows PC with a local account, consider upgrading to the Windows 10 May 2019 Update first.

09:20

clicking "yes" on that prompt... https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/07/connect-to-save-time-later-3-100802122-orig.jpg

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09:20

leads to this with no offline account option https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/07/sign-in-with-microsoft-100802125-orig.jpg (edited)

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09:22

clicking "learn more" button leads to this, stating if you want to have an offline account, you have to sign in with a microsoft account first https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/07/evil-monologue-100802128-orig.jpg

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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

clicking "yes" on that prompt... https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/07/connect-to-save-time-later-3-100802122-orig.jpg

but you can click "no" to that prompt, that leads to the offline account screen

windows 10 home requires microsoft account mandatorily as well nothing has really changed

09:23

it clearly says on the windows 11 requirements page "for first time setup"

09:23

so oobe

09:24

I guess you kinda deserve it for still using that shit SKU in 2021

meanwhile on 1903, there's a "i don't have internet option" on the network screen https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/07/1903-wireless-100802187-orig.jpg

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09:27

which leads to this, then you can click on "continue with limited setup" button https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/07/1903-nag-screen-100802185-orig.jpg

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09:28

which then directly leads to the offline account setup page, but if you end up on this screen, theres a new "offline account" button, and the learn more button is gone https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/07/1903-account-screen-100802186-orig.jpg (edited)

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Why is that considered "limited setup"

idk, its just microsoft

Deleted User

Why is that considered "limited setup"

because you don't get the ms acc features

09:32

Oh wait, today's June 28th

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09:32

what's supposed to happen today

09:34

I do your mom and say if the sex was good

09:34

duh obvs the insider build releases today

09:34

at least allegedly

09:38

Sorry, didn't know

No way. 8.1 store 2

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where'd you get that pic from

11:59

event?

Deleted User

where'd you get that pic from

someone on reddit posted them

ah

probably with launch apps sure

12:13

but probably after a while the new apps can use the ms log in

12:14

we still don't know about the new apps

12:14

so that's only speculation

ImSwordQueen

No way. 8.1 store 2

Is that a link to where you can download Adobe CC?

i would be interested if the new microsoft store apps will be deployable

or can you download it directly through the store?

idk

12:15

those are only screenshots

so

12:23

11 build released?

12:23

yet?

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at least it isn't as bad as installing an emulator and waiting that to configure itself

12:24

haha no

12:24

or least the isos aren't yet

lodocus

yet?

4 hrs 30 mins

i hope they release the isos at the same time

12:25

so we can do a big amount of trolling

ImSwordQueen

i hope they release the isos at the same time

just uupdump

12:26

in case they didn't

Deleted User

just uupdump

true

privacy?

12:46

havent heard that for a long time

12:48

microsoft advertised 11 like its going to be part of your life (edited)

12:48

like what the fuck you are supposed to be an operating system

12:48

i know

12:49

its just awful and you cant do anything about it other than taking action against these yourself (edited)

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is this really news? obv windows 11 will spy filled garbage

12:49

with all the requirements it has

yeah

i hope NTlite brings an option to remove the spying stuff

12:52

so it would be useful over other tools

Still shit though.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1409468954217697282/photo/3

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

a Microsoft employee has been tweeting a bunch of screenshots from an internal Windows 11 build. They show the new File Explorer, Settings, and dark mode

Retweets

210

Likes

1647

13:24

still no tabs for file explorer

13:24

and that thick ugly ass navigation bar is still there

At least some transparency is back

they didnt even bother rounding the edges of the thing like anything else

And the details view is fucked.

13:26

Well shit, guess neither of the 'make it like files' nor the "don't touch explorer" crews got what they want.

Almost every other file manager on every other os has tabs

i think that make shit small option will still be there

Meanwhile Windows: no

but idk its microsoft

Heck even apple got tabs right, but you're right

lodocus

i think that make shit small option will still be there

Yeah but i've heard it's fucked. Never got to try it though.

Well iirc this same build is dropping today

13:29

So these leaks are of the build we be getting later

i think it's cool

13:32

i like the new settings app and file explorer

13:32

again

13:32

it's like 4 people liking it and like

13:32

92478 not liking it

And rightfully so, they just fucked up the details menu for no reason at all.

what details menu

13:36

the ribbon?

My bad, meant details view.

this?

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Yes,

you mean the way they increased the padding?

Yep.

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13:36

you can disable it

13:36

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That really fu- wait. Heard that's temporary?

no one said that

Holy shit, well thank god it's spared then.

13:37

Still not cool with adding it in such a place like that. (edited)

I actually agree with this

11 tries to unify touch with desktop more than 8

13:47

hence no tablet mode

13:48

they're serious about it

13:48

except i think the desktop experience is tolerable on 11 but on 8 the start screen is just... subjective

13:51

what

13:52

it's not like one of the main ui elements we used on windows was turned into a fullscreen thing mostly aimed for touch

13:52

which you couldn't disable without 3rd party apps

13:52

or without having a surface rt in that matter aswell since 8.1 update 3 gave you an option

13:53

i have stopped using the start menu ever since it became shit on 8 and 10

13:53

i like it a bit better on 11

13:53

i guess the live tiles just turn me down from using it

13:53

i really didn't like live tiles but i guess i can see the appeal for some

Vruh 2

i like it a bit better on 11

Not really, it's literally 10's one but more wasted space for the "see more" section.

what's the see more section

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sadly i got dependant of using the start menu on 7 so when i went on to use 8

Vruh 2

what's the see more section

Forgot it's name but it's the one in the top right/left corner.

i instantly get exploded by a start screen

13:55

this

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Yes.

it functions kinda like the 7 start menu

13:55

you have pinned and recent apps

13:56

you click on the show more thing

13:56

you get more shit

13:56

the layout isn't the same though

But search is still in a pointless separate menu

Vruh 2

you get more shit

Yeah but the show more thing is as worse as it was on 10.

there is no show more thing on 10

13:56

it's why i like the 11 menu more than 10

honestly 11 start menu is awful

Vruh 2

there is no show more thing on 10

It's already the default view. Which is shit. (edited)

exactly

All Apps was a 15xx only thing, got yeeted in 1607

i prefered pinned apps and clicking to see a clusterfuck of folders and shortcuts

Just like action center was moved to a more obnoxious spot

to the clock right

13:57

i have no idea

13:57

i didn't see where i went

13:57

and honestly

13:58

i have it disabled

its before the show desktop button in 1607 and later

you had some freedom rearranging tiles and resizing them and shi and now you have this thing that kinda functions like 8.1 just moving other pinned stuff around

While it was before the clock in 15xx

and also the recommended thing

And it also became bigger for no reason

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i don't understand 8.1's start button

13:58

simply put it

13:58

when you click a button you expect a menu

13:58

not a screen

I mean they only brought back the start button mid 8.1 development

i just realized how similar 7's start menu is to 11 after you enable shortcuts on the bottom portion (edited)

14:00

they function like the shortcuts on the right on the 7 start menu

14:00

you get recent apps on the bottom much like 7 (except it includes files which i don't like entirely) and pinned apps on the top

14:00

both have a show all button

14:00

which show a shitload of folders and shortcuts

Except it doesn't feel exactly like xp-7, 10 15xx start menu, but that's to be expected

i will bet that ms will kill that in a future release of 11

they probably won't

14:01

the most they'll do is add a search bar on the top of the menu

14:02

(which also is kinda similar to 7)

Hope they don't have the idea to make the action center more obnoxious than it was in 10 post-15xx

14:03

Actually the tray also been the action center is better in my book

oh

14:03

i didn't think much of it

14:03

i don't use action center anyways

only really liked it's placement in 15xx

t-clock looks more convincing on light theme

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and i always disable it in 1607 and later

i think 11 would look great on 1440p displays

Well hope they at least make the small taskbar an actual option and not a reg thing

maybe in the future

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It's not too flat so no

google has basically no blur or transparency

14:05

meanwhile microsoft has atleast kept some of it

Also flat

14:06

while Ms and apple moved to Neophirism

have i also noticed how the 11 start menu is faster than the 10 one

14:06

it opens up faster

14:06

or is it just placebo

Due to no tile bs (edited)

14:06

and that the code might not be as spaghetti noodle

14:07

Cant wait for themes to look even worse on 11

it depends

14:08

https://www.deviantart.com/niivu/art/Fluent-for-Windows-10-859643776

Fluent for Windows 10 by niivu on DeviantArt

14:08

this theme looked great on 11

But ofc something like even a 8.x theme port will look bad (edited)

there's only so much you can do

And WB doesn't help much so

Scamdisk

Hope they don't have the idea to make the action center more obnoxious than it was in 10 post-15xx

it's awful

14:09

it's in the clock now

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14:09

it's in the clock now

14:09

integrated with the calendar

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At least it's a little more useful that way

true

and doesn't waste as much space

it's annoying. liked the action center

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Ouch, well you just use it with a chormium browser anyhow, better that way.

i never used action center

14:10

the tray is kinda weird

i liked the action center because you were able to ignore it

At least it's a little more useful that way

True, better than that whole panel, fuck that. (edited)

Tho obviously they did the action center placement perfectly in 1507

14:10

They just had to fuck it up in 1607

the tray is all integrated now

14:11

as long as it's fast enough

14:11

to open the flyouts

14:11

i'm on board

14:11

because the 10 flyouts are kinda slow

14:11

overall

Even 8.x flyouts were faster

At least the flyouts got a redemption in 11, that's good enough.

also i actually have to say this: 8.1 charms search sucks

Rather than filling the entire side for no reason. Also yes, everything done with 8.x flyouts sucked ass. (edited)

it's not all entirely bad honestly

8.0's charms search was way better

also the explorer will have acrylic transparency

14:13

on the command bar

inb4 that's just a uwp thing stacked on top of the Win32 explorer

Embedded image

14:13

it is?

14:13

why would it not be

Ofc i mean even the address bar and search is a kind of uwp

that's definitely uwp

So obviously no hopes for aero glass back

Vruh 2

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why does it look like a weird 7 explorer knock off

14:14

it's hurting me

it depends

Unless well, hack the entirety of dwm to render uwp borders

14:14

on Win32 apps

yeah maybe one day they just

14:15

uwpize dwm

14:15

or just adapt dwm to show a blur similar to it

14:15

i believe it's a bit more than just strong gaussian blur

We still don't have the build so we don't know everything

we know quite a lot actually

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Yes, but obviously not everything

ImSwordQueen

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amazing

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you have fixed the 11 explorer

by making it into the 7 explorer

Needs bottom details plane

Vruh 2

it's not all entirely bad honestly

Yes i'm aware it's not all bad. I just want to know why microsoft fucks up something for every step forward. They really like to do this, 10 was better than the clusterfuck UI of 8.x but it's worse for everything else.

inb4 this redesign breaks oldnewexplorer

it will

14:17

oh it will

14:17

jesus fucking christ it will

just like new taskbar breaks SIB

well no shit you can't expect old tools to just work with new shit instantly

made the opposite because fuck you

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hmm

oh god

make the command bar glass and the toolbar normal

meanwhile openshell works, but it just adds another start button

what happens

14:18

if

14:18

somehow you can disable the 11's shell

14:18

and bring the 10 shell

you can

14:19

well

Well i mean you already did it

on 21996

will the explorer windows have the ribbon or be broken as fuck

Scamdisk

Well i mean you already did it

with the new redesign

the explorer probably won't function]

idek, the taskbar is in a separate dll

Vruh 2

the explorer probably won't function]

welp. improvement

no likeeee

14:19

explorer.exe failed to start 0x00000142

Also inb4 IE trick still works

i know what i said

14:19

probably they will make the explorer windows into their own dll

14:20

that would be easier tbh

14:20

and would fuck a lot of mods

Nah, make every explorer.exe function it's own dll /s

microsoft loves to fuck with modders

Scamdisk

Nah, make every explorer.exe function it's own dll /s

make every exe function into his own dll /s

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What the hell? That should work flawlessly.

I wonder how frustrated are the mod devs getting by MS breaking their shit

They should've expected that at least.

inb4 oldnewexplorer gets a first new update in years

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So basically, they went insane?

i mean. the posts during the event are.. special

StartisBack+++ (edited)

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14:24

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14:24

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Can't blame him, he was dealing wtih the people app before and now this.

and with the weather and news

14:27

wait

14:27

you can't get the quick launch on 11 anymore

14:27

nooo

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what if they worked overtime

14:28

during may

14:28

into june

14:28

no

21996 is too close to 22000

2 hours and something

Yes, but then again, they were still unprepared

14:29

And more confirmation of 22000 been basically RTM

14:30

and 21996 been a RTM Escrow

ImSwordQueen

you can't get the quick launch on 11 anymore

Yeah felt that was going to be the case when they released in the anniversary update, was viewed as a legacy feature in the brink of extinction.

I mean it was legacy since at least 7

it was legacy since 7 yes

i mean. probably they wouldn't remove it completly

and it was about time they killed toolbars (edited)

ImSwordQueen

i mean. probably they wouldn't remove it completly

(They probably will.)

but now we can't even gets the other as well

they were legacy taskbar features just waiting to be scythed

I mean shit is part of IE so i wouldn't think much, tho the folder itself, yes

rip this feature. nobody used it

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technically

14:31

if you used quicklaunch

14:31

you did

ImSwordQueen

rip this feature. nobody used it

Which one?

rip WMP taskband for real i guess

wait

14:32

are gadget rip as well?

Gadgets are not taskbar toolbars

14:33

Also thank god they killed off hp's shitty question mark shit however

14:33

unless HP readapts (edited)

i might sleep through this update

14:34

my sleep schedule is so fucked up i may just fall asleep at 1pm

14:34

and wake up 7pm

Meanwhile I will just get it tommorrow when it can be downloaded via UUPDump

and instantly get spoiled even though it's already been spoiled

it was a separate question but ok

Scamdisk

Also thank god they killed off hp's shitty question mark shit however

they will bring it in someway

Inb4 uupdump gives me 22000.1

14:35

lqtroll

22000.1 irrelevant build yes

I mean the .51 is just a CU so

14:36

Ofc uup to iso shits wont integrate the cu properly (edited)

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14:41

"Microsoft employee who leaks internal stuff for fun"

what a fucking idiot

14:52

yeah

14:53

it's where i've been getting the previous photos

Vruh 2

what a fucking idiot

hero*

14:58

with these leaks now we know that windows 11 will suck

my other computer may get windows 11 builds (edited)

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16:17

but after windows 11 is released

16:17

i have to clean install windows 10

16:17

on here

16:20

but on main, after i saw windows 11 is not compatible with your computer on my windows 11 leak build, i immideately clean installed windows 10 and i couldnt get dev builds, just release preview ones

is insider build out yet?

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

my other computer may get windows 11 builds (edited)

and yep, stuck in dev channel

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lodocus

is insider build out yet?

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lodocus

is insider build out yet?

It will take some time.

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

Click to see attachment 🖼️

thats 21390

16:28

leaked build was 21996

16:28

number must be above 21996

lodocus

thats 21390

21390.2025 that is

16:34

that is windows 10 build 21390.2025 @tyl0413 (edited)

insider build in 25 mins

16:36

or 24

@tyl0413 @lodocus build out

17:00

22000.51

IT'S OUT

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17:02

no x86

17:02

so rip x86 computers

22000?

yep.

17:05

51 apparently

not far off from 21996

maybe?

anyways thanks

17:06

is it time bombed btw?

we don't know

17:06

i mean i don't

17:08

WINDOWS 11 LOVES SCANDISK SO MUCH HOLY FUCK

lodocus

is it time bombed btw?

no

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17:14

IF YOU HAVE WINDOWS 11 INSTALLED AND YOU ARE IN THE INSIDER PROGRAM YOU CAN GET WINDOWS 11 EVEN ON UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE!!

Well. yeah.

i mean you can get insider builds without having the right hardware

load

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my laptop which was unsupported is updating

If they ditched that tpm 2.0 thing, that would be fantastic.

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Even though, it's obviously an insane move to begin with and it would've backfired regardless.

probably it would give an error

17:19

welp. we will see

17:20

i'm making a funny sku

17:20

just cuz

17:20

yeah it fucking checks

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

load

now only my windows update would load up

17:21

nvm the hdd usage is maxed out

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making the iso for funny sku

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17:21

and for my laptop (edited)

is it timebombed?

17:49

i guess its still unknown

No one affirmed on that yet, yes.

i dont think there is a reason for a timebomb for the first build ever but

17:51

idk its ms after all

nope. it isn't (edited)

17:55

@Ximonite go try 22000.51

imagine using

instead of g17

g17

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https://uupdump.net/selectlang.php?id=e012464d-2c1e-4c36-9051-caa99ff6f213

Select language for Windows 11 Insider Preview 10.0.22000.51 (co_re...

Download UUP files from Windows Update servers with ease. This project is not affiliated with Microsoft Corporation.

18:01

its out!

lodocus

is it timebombed?

NOOO it is not

18:06

i've already said

18:07

maybe they finally realized that timebombing windows builds is pointless (edited)

18:08

tho dunno if it isn't timebombed with certificates instead

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18:09

finally, i checked for updates after pausing it, and the new windows 11 build showed up

Deleted User

NOOO it is not

i didnt see it

18:10

ig thanks

Deleted User

maybe they finally realized that timebombing windows builds is pointless (edited)

22000 is the literal RTM build

18:10

They have no reason to Timebomb a RTM build

18:13

And it's production signed

18:13

so shit won't expire

well 21996 wasn't timebombed either

That's a RTM escrow, obivously it was not gonna be timebombed

also there is this I am not so sure it's RTM build https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_11_build_22114

Windows 11 build 22114

Windows 11 build 22114 is an unleaked build of Windows 11. An issue relating to this build was posted on GitHub on 9 June 2021.

That looks like either a refresh build or a nickel build

18:16

Most likely refresh

Deleted User

also there is this I am not so sure it's RTM build https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_11_build_22114

It's RTM for OEMs

Anyone with uupdump

18:18

Consider dumping 22000.1 and 22000.51 esds

18:18

And their skus

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Scamdisk

22000 is the literal RTM build

WHAT

Eeee es deeees

PSA: don't disable telemetry so MS can support more CPU gens, idek

waiting for ppipro

18:21

PPIPro

Hmm yes, Windows "10" Team

wait

ok then

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for multiskus i don't need to modify anything right?

Scamdisk

PPIPro

Hmm yes, Windows "10" Team

i want entepriseS

18:24

send

Wait for Xinso to do that shit

Scamdisk

PSA: don't disable telemetry so MS can support more CPU gens, idek

And make TPM required to boot

have anyone tried running it on no tpm old cpu machine?

18:51

also wonder if replacing .wim trick still works

i got the build, but THE ENFORCEMENTS ARE STILL KEPT

18:53

Embedded image

18:54

it still says it must support tpm 2.0 and secure boot

18:54

which doesnt exist in legacy BIOS land at least for secure boot (edited)

You can still use the bypass

btw where do i get the iso?

uupdump

18:55

However that's gotta be 22000.1 so update after installing

how? looks quite complicated

18:56

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18:56

i do have aria2 but

18:56

idfk

The script includes aria2

do i just go with the middle one?

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18:59

@Scamdisk did i do something wrong?

wdym?

it's 22000.1

19:00

not 22000.51

You gotta update after install

to the official insider?

19:00

welp. that is useful like a finger in the ass

well, the CU

because microsoft checks for tpm while upgrading.

The bypass still works

while upgrading too?

And i mean all of them

uh wtf do I do

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really need a mirror

It's 21996 + 4 after all

I retried multiple times

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewSDK

19:05

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19:05

official 22000 download link?

already an update?

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SDK

wait yeah

19:06

900 mb

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewiso

microsoft has to be making really huge improvements to have 64 bit windows in 900 mb lol

oh it's not updated

so desperate for a mirror

still win 10

the setup still has the old logo

19:07

yikes

it has to be inconsistent a bit it's windows after all

i got the funny sku but not pro

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well I can't download it

and it failed

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I guess I will wait for the chinese guy to mirror it

None of them, are you on 11?

None

You got to be on that build that leaked to have it.

No you dont

?

Use UUPDump or some shit to get a .1 iso then update it to .51

Inside windows Update

Use adguard's uup shit

19:21

https://uup.rg-adguard.net/

UUP (Unified Update Platform) Generation Project (v2.4.14) [by @rga...

This project helps you just download UUP files or download and create an ISO image in one click.

That's nice.

or just wait because scam will eventually make a mirror biden

biden

uup actually fails to download 22000.51 so it gives you 22000.1

19:26

use fdm

19:26

it doesn't bottleneck via fdm

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@Scamdisk can you pin this btw?

19:27

just use fdm :bruh:

Scamdisk pinned a message to this channel. 28/06/2021 19:27

meanwhile me on 22000.1

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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

is that actually 51

ImSwordQueen

uup actually fails to download 22000.51 so it gives you 22000.1

^

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

thanks!

So it is 22000.1

yes

Vruh 2

is that actually 51

this should be 51

19:37

SHOULD

it isn't

19:37

the 51 package is bugged

19:37

and can't be slipstreamed

keyword

19:37

SHOULD

19:37

not IS

I got .51 from UUPDump

19:43

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would be nice if you uploaded the iso to mega or smth

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got funne sku but not 22000.51

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that's the right version of setup.exe

seriously though someone please mirror the damn iso

there is no 51 yet

20:00

the isos of 51 are just 22000.1

20:00

NOOOO

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20:00

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Apparently yes.

probably not now

20:02

or until ms doesn't release the iso

20:04

oh lol

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20:04

10's oobe with weird things on 11

20:05

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@lodocus https://mega.nz/file/JGBkWJLB#C-Y4JWYrxJuOxzOYj3GQBKoH13ZcicvrJH6IkBEW4X0

3.98 GB file on MEGA

is that 51 or 1

1

20:06

thanks a lot mate

i'm uploading my .51 iso

Ximonite

i'm uploading my .51 iso

is it really 51?

Ximonite

i'm uploading my .51 iso

it's gonna be .1

20:07

the .51 update is faulty

lodocus

thanks a lot mate

np

meanwhile..

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which sku

20:07

ppipro?

ImSwordQueen

is it really 51?

yes it is

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yep

Ximonite

yes it is

how

20:07

how

UUPDump

uupdump gens .1

20:07

u have to update to get the .51

@Ximonite does it have team?

20:08

ppipro for the smart people

I don't think so

you made the iso..

I'm gonna check with vmware what it has

20:08

I only upgraded from 21996 with it so far

Ximonite

I'm gonna check with vmware what it has

yeah pls

i had to deploy team with winNTsetup

20:09

or it wouldn't go further

20:09

kinda sad

you can always have storage for NT4 trollol

trollol

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whats team sku anyways

surface hub OS

Yes.

oh surface hub is this.

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20:14

i thought it was a sorta of tablet like what facebook did

20:14

these freaks

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20:18

microsoft killed the use of the old taskbar

20:18

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does the old start menu still work?

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my 22000.51 iso is pro only

20:25

already started the upload a while ago

20:25

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20:26

that goddamn dot

20:31

nothing

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ImSwordQueen

nothing

liar

20:37

there's the windows flag

20:37

or logo

20:37

or whatever it's called

20:37

but it's so dim (edited)

it's dead

20:43

the shell doesn't load

20:44

@Ximonite where is the linm

linm

20:44

people are getting 22000.51 so it seems the update has been patched btw

20:44

which is why xim's iso is good most likely

20:48

so, heads up for anyone installing this build, explorer in safemode is broken

yep

20:49

only explorer is broken

20:49

the rest is fine

~~https://mega.nz/file/h8MXBSLS#CZ2xQ0jen1O8QE5qGkPsdzy41J3RE2bceXOj8aypX48~~ I have deleted this from MEGA because 22000.51 can easily be downloaded now. (edited)

4.94 GB file on MEGA

this is .51?

yea

thankss

Deleted User

uupdump gens .1

uupdump gives .51 if you select 1 sku

22:33

it gives .1 if you try multiple skus

ohhh

Yes

23:19

been like that since 21996

I dont like 11

ImSwordQueen

I dont like 11

i thought you did?

Welp 21996 gave me too much hope

23:25

The event made 11 look a lot worse

the OS is fine imo, UI looks good, but of course the HW requirements are you know what

23:25

plus, i thought quite a bt about privacy in 11, seems to be greatly decreasing

you won't be able to personalize until you activate tho

wddm 2.x drivers are needed in order to get the transparent taskbar it seems

transparent taskbar?

23:36

that's only a bug while installing graphics drivers afaik

23:36

and they don't need to be wddm 2.x

a bug, not a feature? too bad, i like it

23:37

so the september 2020 intel hd 620 driver is indeed buggier than the nvidia 342.xx driver from 2014. waterfox also has a problem where it takes like 20 seconds to render a new tab, but after that is fine

win32

a bug, not a feature? too bad, i like it

TranslucentTB can get you a transparent taskbar

23:38

interesting

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you're implying the 10 one was good?

23:43

i think it might nag at you in a few days

Deleted User

you're implying the 10 one was good?

imho the settings app is a mistake and the control panel was the only proper way to set shit

I like the new settings

I mean they removed tablet mode so now desktop gets it

23:45

windows 8 v2

Ah yes. Improvements that nobody asked for

I'm betting most windows users don't even use touchscreen lol (edited)

23:46

and windows is shit on touchscreen as well anyway

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at least for now?

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what?

23:47

how

23:48

they only confirmed that taskbar won't be customizable

23:48

yeah

The very last official build of Microsoft Windows I will ever use is 21996.1. I see no reason to go any further.

we obvs know windows 7 is better than 10 and 11

Vista...

is there a new boot screen in 22000

also rounded corners are straight up stolen from aero

23:51

do I like rounded corners? no

Then whuz this?

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23:52

Talking about boot screen

win32

The very last official build of Microsoft Windows I will ever use is 21996.1. I see no reason to go any further.

fair

23:52

same thinking

win32

Vista...

don't forget NT4.....

23:53

it's a tough choice for me between NT4 and Vista anways :^)

23:53

even windows 1 > windows 11

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yes, thinking about replacing my os/2 warp install with that, but unfortunately usb 2.0 isn't very stable for me on nt4, and that's very important to me

23:54

even usb 1.1 is messy for me

ohh sad

unless it's on my piii 500

proper usb driver for nt 4 when /s

nt4 needs WDM support, then the excellent win2k usb drivers will be available to use

why not just use 2000

win32

nt4 needs WDM support, then the excellent win2k usb drivers will be available to use

pls make WDM support for NT

23:56

on 22000?

23:56

try the safemode if you haven't done so lol

Deleted User

pls make WDM support for NT

unfortunately i can't do that in four days (before returning to vista)

but yeah 95 osr2 got a couple of things that nt4 should have got like fat32 and wdm (though not very complete until 98)

win32

unfortunately i can't do that in four days (before returning to vista)

but yeah 95 osr2 got a couple of things that nt4 should have got like fat32 and wdm (though not very complete until 98)

23:57

the fat32 driver from forgot who works fine

23:57

with 2000's ntldr

Deleted User

the fat32 driver from forgot who works fine

otoh, i remember dosfreak from vogons writing that it somehow worked worse than the nt 3.51 driver

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it's not windows 10 ig

win32

otoh, i remember dosfreak from vogons writing that it somehow worked worse than the nt 3.51 driver

hmm? interesting

00:00

haven't had issues with it but i never tried it on real hardware of course

a decent amount of the crap I hated about 10 is better in 11 so I'm liking 11

00:01

settings, explorer top bar, icons, fingerprint sensor support

00:02

here's the explorer top bar

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Ximonite

here's the explorer top bar

I hate that

I can't think of any 3rd party apps that do anything to the explorer top bar tho

Ximonite

here's the explorer top bar

windows 7 command bar knock off

I liked ribbon

00:03

Also they killed compact mode

that explorer top bar looks like 12% ie6, 88% fisher-price "my first microwave oven"

Also looks like 7

ImSwordQueen

Also they killed compact mode

compact mode's still here on my 22000.51 install

Ximonite

compact mode's still here on my 22000.51 install

It isnt as compact as before honestly

00:04

Too much unused space

it's actually more compact than it was on my 8.1 install

If you count ribbon sure

no the files are a bit closer together

00:05

reminds me of vista

00:05

lmao

Ximonite

reminds me of vista

Weird. It looks the same on 8.1 and vista

I know it doesn't. I dual booted 8.1 and vista

00:06

and looked at the exact same files on both. there's a difference

00:07

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i like the compactness of win2k

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I don't think it's even installed

00:08

windows 11 new logic

yeah once you install it doesn't need internet

That sounds dumb

00:10

Honestly

00:10

Home is really using the online DRM

00:11

You cant set up your device without internet in the home sku

00:11

Idk

00:12

Gtg to bed

gn

gn

00:16

how I wish the right click menu looked like

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ImSwordQueen

It isnt as compact as before honestly

Fuck, shit knew it was on the chopping block.

00:21

Holy shit that's not going to be good, it will be ignored and stuff will continue going like that until after a damn decade later they return to compact mode like nothing have happened.

https://twitter.com/thebookisclosed/status/1409668442362310657

Albacore (@thebookisclosed)

Want to try the official Windows 11 preview but don't have a machine enrolled into the Insider Program? Here's a full image you can use for installing from scratch as well as upgrading. It includes all the official consumer editions & the Day 1 UI update. https://t.co/DgGKd23NTj

00:31

forgot to post this

00:31

this includes all editions

00:32

and is a proper iso similar to MS's

imo the current right click menu should be for touchscreen and the concept I made should be for no touchscreen (edited)

just installed 22000

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00:44

you can now left align it without activating

Yeah that was bound to be controversial if otherwise.

00:45

Yeah that's fucked now with the 10 shell gone. (edited)

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they said it's locked to the bottom now officially

00:46

probably in the GA the registry hack is gonna be gone

basically no one moves it from the bottom tho

00:50

except to the top

00:50

I see that occasionally

bruh I just realized wrong logo

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Ximonite

except to the top

Yeah since 10 at least, putting it sideways has always screwed up small mode.

Ximonite

basically no one moves it from the bottom tho

why not on the left?

00:52

ubuntu moment

00:52

i did that for like 2 years myself tho :^)

00:57

I don't get why it uses 10 logo lol

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00:57

lemme guess this was stolen from unleaked 10 build

00:58

yeah you can change theme without activating and put taskbar to the left as well

just noticed this nice microphone icon when a program's using the mic

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safe mode is epic

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Ximonite

just noticed this nice microphone icon when a program's using the mic

this was in 10 already lol

yea but I like the 11 icon

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01:01

and it just endlessly crashes every time you press ok lol

Ximonite

yea but I like the 11 icon

They just got rid of the fill in the icon, that's it.

it's blue now. differentiates it from other system tray icons

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Ximonite

it's blue now. differentiates it from other system tray icons

True.

microsoft invented colors

fair, if apple invented these things

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win32

fair, if apple invented these things

linux had most of those things way before mac

01:48

and i say this as a big mac fan who just bought a mac pro as his new daily driver

@Ximonite have you uploaded your 22000 iso yet?

Ximonite pinned a message to this channel. 29/06/2021 02:05

thanks mate

half assed

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lol I tried localization in 11

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03:15

done forbidden text wat lol

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03:16

lol why is windows update talking about hololens and the text goes out of screen

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22000 on i5-2500 and no tpm machine time

Deleted User

lol why is windows update talking about hololens and the text goes out of screen

About as typical as windows gets.

MassClaw

About as typical as windows gets.

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10:01

to your surprise

10:01

the compact view option is now very visible

10:01

and detail views is saved

Try installing oldnewexplorer on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=744pW4uyv8I

Microsoft removes its PC Health Check Windows 11 upgrade app

got the build running and now the system properties is dead again

rip

12:19

why

pff idfk

12:25

also cant choose defaults for old photo viewer

12:29

ugh god i really hate thie giant limited context menu

12:29

can i turn the damn thing off?

not that i know of

12:32

looks like ya ain't liking windows 11

i mean i quite like it compared to the leaked build but this mfing comically large context menu just aint it

12:43

ugh thank god

12:43

at least start menu folder now actually work

manually installing kb5004564 with dism

how do i get this to install with dism

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fuck it

16:51

what im gonna do now is to install windows 7 dualbooted

damn never could have guessed trolla

trolla

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Oh yeah?

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18:08

After i converted my HDD to GPT when my machine isnt UEFI

18:08

thanks Windows 11

18:10

Btw its still 22000.1

18:16

I still plan to install Windows 7.

18:16

As most apps are still supported there

Vruh 2

and detail views is saved

Well thank heavens for that. If only having this build wouldn't take so long, but got to see it for myself.

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

Btw its still 22000.1

which iso have you used?

Deleted User

https://twitter.com/thebookisclosed/status/1409668442362310657

have you used this?

18:27

it's already 22000.51, comes with all editions

Not really all, but well, stuff like Enterprise are virtual skus so you can get by imputing in a enterprise key after installing pro

18:29

The dism trick is not even needed

18:29

Just a key and a restart

well, isn't that how MS packages them now?

Enterprise is a virtual sku

yes i know

18:30

i mean MS doesn't even include enterprise in the SKU list since a while

But centrain variations of Enterprise like G, S and Eval are still their own thing

18:31

Wouldn't make much sense for EnterpriseS to be a virtual SKU, now would it (edited)

still waiting for you to make 22000.51 EnterpriseS or G

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

I still plan to install Windows 7.

i did that about a month ago the only thing that wont run me me oddly is itunes

20:24

so i had to use an older version

20:24

overall 7 is still great (edited)

windows 11 weather doesn't update the displayed daily high temperature if the current temperature goes above their prediction

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20:28

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Drips

overall 7 is still great (edited)

it will always be

Ximonite

windows 11 weather doesn't update the displayed daily high temperature if the current temperature goes above their prediction

windows 11 really coping

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yes

21:26

correct

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22:06

you can enable using ViVeTool by albacore

22:07

using an admin cmd window just use vivetool addconfig 33192136 2 and it should enable the search box in start like in the promo photos

how well does it work tho

just like you expect

22:08

it brings up the search up

odd why did they lock it then

no idea

22:08

macirosoft i guess

fair enough

so apparently game anticheats are all broken on windows 11

23:02

my friend says valorant vanguard crashed his system every time it loaded on win11

23:02

lmao

kek

23:34

nah, supporting my haswell would make me like it

23:36

too much pain

23:37

and besides it won't support beyond GA

Michael

my friend says valorant vanguard crashed his system every time it loaded on win11

good

23:50

fuck vanguard

23:50

but not all game anticheats are broken

23:51

i could play cs (the better game) just fine, quake live

23:51

etc

23:51

then again that's all vac

23:53

i wish quake live was alive-er

23:53

champions is also kinda dead

23:53

actually

23:53

not even that much more alive than live

23:54

well either way

23:54

game anticheats are working fine for me on 22000.51 and worked fine on 21996

23:54

EAC should work fine

23:55

i think the reason why vanguard is crashing 11 is because it's a kernel mode fucking anticheat and we have secureboot

23:55

oh

23:55

right

23:55

well

23:55

i have yet to try eac or battleeye on 22000.51

Vruh 2

i wish quake live was alive-er

have you tried ioquake3 online?

02:00

its a quake 3 arena engine port

02:00

as far as i know theres still quite a few players

02:00

same with ezquake for quake 1 (edited)

02:01

i used to play ioquake3 back in like 2013 or so

i don't like quake 3 itself that much

02:01

i found quake live to be quite perfect

Vruh 2

i don't like quake 3 itself that much

really? i was under the assumption quake live and 3 were very similar

it's quake 3 but better honestly

ive never played quake live so idk

02:01

i did play the new quake champions game (kind of like the doom 2016 of quake) and it actually wasnt bad

02:01

its not quake 1 level but not bad

i played champions but eh

02:01

i used to play nquake quite a bit

02:02

i even made a shitty arena map

thing with champions is it had a lot of players online on launch but just died

02:02

i doubt its easy to find a match anymore

i found some duels on quake live

02:03

i never knew the playerbase was this friendly

friends screenshot, windows 11 basic ui on windows 11

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02:03

old program

02:03

lmao

winfile would do that too

MDI is really not important these days

we do a little trolling

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that

05:38

is actually a nice ui

tpm_and_secure_boot_bypass.reg

322 bytes

06:08

use this on the PE, idk if it works on a live system

oldnewexplorer still somewhat works

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fun fact the ribbon is still inside the build

can be accessed by going to control panel then going to any other path from it

Scamdisk

can be accessed by going to control panel then going to any other path from it

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08:38

yup

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these are my results

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09:54

looks like i can run funny windows 11

09:54

not that i really want to but still

meanwhile for me it's everything met but cpu gen and tpm

09:55

so basically boohoo pc old not gonna support it - MS

no win 11

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09:57

wait I'm on an older version

yeah

still none, so no win11 for me

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yeah it just tells you a big no for TPM

athe52

no win 11

if you are running a haswell cpu chances are you have UEFI which does support GPT

10:01

though i dont know how a conversion will go without losing data

I am running on a haswell chip myself but I don't have TPM 2.0 actually

10:02

but it does not matter

10:03

since you won't be able to do RTM it seems

but what if i told you the build they released IS the RTM with some unfinished cherry hill shit

hmm?

for some reason i think what they will release in oct is gonna be 22000 still (edited)

22000.16385 troll

troll

22000.1023 lqtroll

lqtroll

10:10

and what we getting to test during the time between now and october is the cherry hill shit

fair enough

inb4 all that's happening is reverse integration

10:12

from co_refresh to 22000 co_release (edited)

tfGlad

"Windows 10"

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10:17

new store looks nice but i don't like how much it reminds me of Teams

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Scamdisk

"Windows 10"

it at least says Version Next

10:20

trollol

Scamdisk

new store looks nice but i don't like how much it reminds me of Teams

How did you get the new one. updating did nothing for me

check for updates till you get it (edited)

10:36

in the store ofc

some people didn't get it so try downloading the Msixbundle package manually

Deleted User

some people didn't get it so try downloading the Msixbundle package manually

How do you do that?

https://store.rg-adguard.net/

Microsoft Store - Generation Project (v1.2.1) [by @rgadguard & mkub...

Online link generator for Microsoft Store. You can use it to get links to almost all apps, games, themes from the Microsoft Store.

10:49

and put this https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9WZDNCRFJBMP

Get Microsoft Store - Microsoft Store

Download this app from Microsoft Store for Windows 10, Windows 10 Mobile, Windows 10 Team (Surface Hub), HoloLens. See screenshots, read the latest customer reviews, and compare ratings for Microsoft Store.

I choose RP?

RP is release preview

10:53

do dev I guess

thankfully, microsoft made it easy to know whether you'll be able to run rtm

11:05

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11:05

remember this chart?

11:05

you can now see which one you're part of

11:05

kind of

I should be in the yellow

in insiders

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but funny MS is gonna push me to red I suppose

you get a correctly colored warning

11:06

i should be in yellow and indeed my message is colored yellow

11:06

anyone on red gets a red message

oh

11:07

interesting

11:07

I don't have the build so idk

does someone have the tray icons (edited)

14:55

from 22000

bohoo. i can't run windows 11

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I just realized that you could install Windows 11 on a Raspberry Pi 3 but not an i7 3770K, Microsoft what happened?

ImSwordQueen

bohoo. i can't run windows 11

same

17:01

awesome

just installed Windows 11 in a VM

17:13

eh

17:13

it's alright

17:13

still hate it tho

Deleted User

correct

did you read the people also ask thing lol

lol

20:02

now I saw

20:02

lqtroll

wtf why do i need to name my pc

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21:42

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21:43

and it didn't asked for anything else

21:43

ah yes. if you make it bold it would look awful

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ImSwordQueen

thonkering

but everyone is blind these days so everything needs to be bold

HOW IS THIS LEGAL

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HOW

literally they can't own an account

also potentially targeted advertisement

yea

22:01

literally ms wants coppa under their ass

22:01

also oobe is more annoying now

22:01

even for a pro sku

Latest

22000.51

or, no oobe at all

22:31

just like nt4

22:31

you literally set up the shit in the setup like you are supposed to

22:31

same goes for 2000 I guess

and XP x64

22:34

2000 had a sorta of oobe

oo xp 64 has no oobe? interesting

NT 5.2 doesn't have oobe

ah yeah

22:35

server

22:35

it does but it goes unused tbf

22:35

same as xp iirc but with different music

it's broken

22:35

and unused

22:35

XP x64 doesn't have music at all

ImSwordQueen

it's broken

i think it would work if the sku was workstation unless they fixed shit with longhorn

2000 had minisetup as his oobe

the network identification wizard?

yea

ah

where's the clock

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Exectued from existence

22:39

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22:39

did someone find a way to re enable ribbon UI?

it is happening randomly to people I assume?

22:40

try to be lucky

time to disable taskbar.dll first

Scamdisk

new store looks nice but i don't like how much it reminds me of Teams

i've never seen teams

ImSwordQueen

wtf why do i need to name my pc

you have always had to name your pc

04:48

though iirc previous versions generated a name from your username

https://twitter.com/npc_dyna/status/1409639551560151047?s=19

Dynakarp (@npc_dyna)

Search Box In Start (Velocity ID: 33192136)

Likes

115

05:47

Ok the start menu search box is actually a velocity thing that can be enabled

i have it enabled

how do you enable it?

using vivetool

10:19

by albacore

10:20

you open an admin cmd on vivetools directory and run

10:20

vivetool addconfig 33192136 2

has anyone managed to restore the old context menu yet?

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12:27

this is pain in the ass

12:32

haha

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unless it looks like this.. LIES! trolla

trolla

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the new file explorer can look good honestly

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14:04

i hate this font

14:04

holy fuck

14:05

it's hurting me

14:06

bru

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14:06

no taskbar

lmao what

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Modern, Elegant, UI

explorer is now a web page

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14:42

no clock or other icons sadly..

14:46

ok they didn't had fucking space to add fucking copy and paste.

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see the script error above

14:47

but also windows 98 active desktop lol

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i know but the fucking context menu is so huge that it was able to fit everything in

14:49

but they have to inconvenience desktop users in some way

14:49

0.01%

14:49

because most of them would probably not run 11

again

15:10

it's the first insider build, one can hope they improve the context menu shit

15:11

by the time of the next build

15:11

there's apparently a build 22117 in the co_refresh branch already

ImSwordQueen

ok they didn't had fucking space to add fucking copy and paste.

copy paste stuff is way above you can see the copy icon over there

16:43

but it doesnt change the fact that is literal dog shit

16:43

i dont even fucking know what microsoft is trying to achieve by making shit bigger

Bigger = better

17:23

American ideologies (edited)

17:24

MicroTablet TouchDows 11

ImSwordQueen

lmao what

it's like active desktop all over again

time to shitpost

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N u e v a c a r t e l l a ( 2 5 ) (edited)

it works

11:19

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11 on a Core 2 Quad pepe_cringed

pepe_cringed

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

nice

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it works great holy fuck

11:22

i'm surprised

Elaborate

it's smooth

Fair Enough, Ram usage?

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11:33

it's alright

11:33

it's still 10 under the hood so don't get surprised of the ram usage

ApertureSketch

11 on a Core 2 Quad pepe_cringed

pepe_cringed

Was fine on a phenom too tfGlad

tfGlad

if only i could try it on my phenom triple core..

oof nice

11 isnt that bad rn

11:37

Its alright for now

11:37

We have to wait for the teams integration...

Oh hey i just got a phenom but I’m running 7 on it

windows 11 is crap

16:02

reqires tpm 2.0

16:02

extremely high

16:02

not yet

Just wait, someone will make a windows 11 theme for windows 10

ryzen 1st gen cpus won't support windows 11

Oh wow

windows 11 will be a failure if reqirements don't get lower

Imagine living to see the day that windows 10 would be called legacy

Deleted User

ryzen 1st gen cpus won't support windows 11

they're reconsidering that

16:04

it might, as with 7th gen cpus

they should reconsider windows 11 entirely trolla

trolla

“LOL sorry guys, our April Fools joke was a little late!!”

kms

I don’t like the release presentation of windows 11

16:06

Something’s weird about it

panos's house?

16:07

yeah it is weird

Who is panos

panos panay

Is that the first guy talking?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panos_Panay_(Microsoft)

Panos Panay (Microsoft)

Panos Costa Panay (Greek: Πάνος Κώστα Παναή) is an American business executive and chief product officer for Windows+ devices at Microsoft. He oversees the development of Surface products and related hardware, along with the Windows client operating system.Panay introduced Windows 11 on the Windows Experience Blog on June 24, 2021.

Shroomer78

Is that the first guy talking?

yeah

16:08

should be

I remember one comment said Microsoft is beginning to sound more like apple, and that got me thinking

didn't watch from the start tbh

Ohh

16:09

I saw the 10 minute supercut

16:09

Or something like that

neat. MS will download the drivers before the second phase of oobe

19:18

so you have a smooth oobe

that sounds good and bad at the same time

Yea that was cool

ImSwordQueen

neat. MS will download the drivers before the second phase of oobe

people who wanna install their own drivers:

23:38

you mean

pepe_sad

pistol

I mean you can always just install the drivers after lol

23:40

also you mean pepe_sad

pepe_sad

gun2

windows

lmao

23:40

well i never let windows download drivers

23:40

other than my slow internet they usually don't work lol

23:40

since custom OEM stuff

yeah windows thought i needed 2017 radeon drivers lmfao

lol

and replaced my 2021 drivers

ImSwordQueen

neat. MS will download the drivers before the second phase of oobe

it downloaded them for me in the middle of the out of the box experience

Oh lol

05:57

It downloaded them in the first phase for me

05:57

why did i send this gif

05:57

anyways

05:57

it isn't incredibly annoying

05:57

just that you have to stop and wait for windows to end it's seizure giving light show

05:58

for me it also... restarted in the middle of the oobe? (edited)

Vruh 2

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It gets political talking about drivers

Vruh 2

for me it also... restarted in the middle of the oobe? (edited)

Maybe cuz you named your computer?

08:37

Windows 11 OOBE allows you to do so

The fact they brought back PC naming during oobe even tho it was gone since the earliest of 10 builds

wait they brought back the ability to name your PC? damn

11:17

guess I haven't been paying enough attention

Windows 11: Bait

Bait

how to get the old right click menu in windows 11

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FeatureManagement\Overrides\4\586118283]
"EnabledState"=dword:00000001
"EnabledStateOptions"=dword:00000001
"Variant"=dword:00000000
"VariantPayloadKind"=dword:00000000
"VariantPayload"=dword:00000000

(edited)

i somehow got the new context menu disabled with a debloater or smth

lol, nice

17:23

which one

the w4rh4wk one

17:25

https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10

W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10

A Collection of Scripts Which Disable / Remove Windows 10 Features and Apps - W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10

thanks

it's been like 2 mins already

18:31

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18:37

how do I install the freaking insider build thing

18:38

are you using the offline enrollement thing?

18:42

idk

18:42

I just clicked get started there

18:42

ah

18:42

try using that i'll get it for you

18:42

one second

18:43

kinda started likeing w11

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18:43

I mean the look and feel of it (edited)

18:43

minimum reqirements are high as fu#k

18:44

OfflineInsiderEnroll.cmd

9.64 KB

k

18:58

@Deleted User what now?

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18:58

I ran the cmd file

19:02

you're in the insider program now

19:02

but on the beta channel

19:02

if you want dev you have to use the script again

ah

19:15

what now?

19:16

until a new build comes up, nothing

19:16

I don't use the latest insider build

https://www.microsoft.com/design/fluent/#/

Microsoft Design

Fluent brings the fundamentals of principled design, innovation in technology, and customer needs together as one. It’s a collective approach to creating simplicity and coherence through a shared, open design system across platforms.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/style/mica

Mica material - Windows apps

Learn to use Mica, an opaque, dynamic material that incorporates theme and desktop wallpaper to delight users and create visual hierarchy.

20:46

Did anyone discover this page?

20:46

It's about Windows 11 design pretty much

20:47

OH.

20:47

Wait a minute, they're finally making new documentation for UX in Windows

20:51

I've looked for a few minutes, there are no funny "Incorrect:" situations anymore

20:52

sad

20:53

What's next - chemistry between you and Windows 11?

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20:53

well no, wdym bro what's next is clearly trigonometry! /s

20:54

You got me

20:55

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20:55

What is Windows 11 made out of?

20:55

Guess.

pixels

20:57

lul

No

20:58

...acrylic

20:58

smoke

20:58

and mica

20:58

Basically, it's very fragile.

20:58

pls break it

20:59

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20:59

There!

21:00

not enough

21:00

where is imswordking

21:01

Look... terminul

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21:01

lmao what is that pic

21:02

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk701?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Get Windows Terminal - Microsoft Store

Download this app from Microsoft Store for Windows 10. See screenshots, read the latest customer reviews, and compare ratings for Windows Terminal.

21:03

I could code at age 1?

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21:03

lol

21:03

sure

21:03

expecting a lot of googoo gagga programs tho

tpm 2.0 is really sh*tty decision

21:24

32bit is whatever but tpm and secure boot -_-

windows terminal

22:46

code

22:46

you're PROBABLY looking at visual studio code for that

22:46

just maybe

but you can use a text mode editor in terminal to write programs /s

Deleted User

@Deleted User what now?

21996 or 22000.1? (edited)

23:36

EEK!

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why is it like that

23:38

set your app mode to light and try ig

its running on windows 7

oh

23:40

it worked for me on 7 though

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

21996 or 22000.1? (edited)

21996

Good now time for restart

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yay

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13:43

lemme turn on transparency actually

who needs offlineinsiderenroll

15:35

when i have my microsoft account that already joined windows insider program (edited)

rumored to have an insider build today

15:39

may be wednesday

15:39

or today

15:39

at the same time, 7pm cest

if you want to upgrade to a newer insider build with unsupported hardware you have to

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16:34

tpm 2.0 wasn't enabled by default in my bios

16:34

so at first I didn't think I had it

windows xp icon spotted

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trolla

1

is there a way so this doesn't show up in the start menu

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17:44

and is there a way to show all apps straight away when you open the start menu

17:44

instead of having to click the all apps button

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

21996 or 22000.1? (edited)

why not 22000.51?

uh

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13:32

phone lockscreen

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it's the same thing

14:15

except the text is on the center

north yankton

ImSwordQueen

uh

Don't like this, at all. Yeah it will be a ride to hell from the look of things.

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Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

north yankton

Ludendorff, North Yankton, nine years ago.

Vruh 2

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I know it's just been moved to the centre, but i didn't even want it to be like 10 either. Wanted it to actually be at least on par with vista's UI development. (edited)

ehh it looks fine, I mean it's just a lock screen

That's what 10 made you think of it. But i guess it's true, you mostly aren't looking at it anyway.

i love how all they done to paint was change the icon

17:33

maybe in a future update they'll change it more idk

It won't go anywhere or change, paint3D flopped hard if you remember it even. (edited)

oh yes the ptsd is coming back

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16:55

interesting. the old copy/paste animation is still in 11

Not surprised, to be honest

If it's in 10, it will be in 11, at this time anyway. (edited)

ngl windows 11 classic theme is kinda spicy

if only there is a way to enable it with dwm

surprised noone said that a new build got released

So old start menu gone in the newest CU

yup

19:09

trash

19:09

inb4 they remove old taskbar too at some point

isn't the old taskbar achieved by taskbar.dll from 21359?

19:10

well they can just break compat with that

19:10

won't be too hard for them knowing MS

Yes

even unintentionally they could break it

as long as the old explorer.exe works

inb4 they could break the 21382 ieframe.dll trick too

what does that do

makes IE work again

19:13

Instead of redirecting to Edge

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19:21

heads up to turkish users

19:21

although lodocus uses english windows iirc

wha

19:27

do they?

19:27

bruh

19:27

yeah i use english

19:27

and mines desktop

ah ok

I see your old ribbons

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it happens randomly with people yeah

no more cooler 10 doom

doom

ive got a bsod and noe the pin doesnt want to register any input except enter button

21:47

amazing os

21:48

ive fixed it now by entering a single digit via onscreen keyboard

21:49

hope that was a permanent fix

I saw that coming

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It was in the bullet list already, doomed from the start.

what if

12:17

you use an older version of explorer

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807550898792300584/863476060041773096/image0.png true?

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so now edge is mandatory

17:50

i will try

17:50

it sounds too bs

serjG

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807550898792300584/863476060041773096/image0.png true?

wat (edited)

actually

17:50

it's too bs

17:51

also if this is 4chan then this isn't a good sign of the reality

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serjG

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807550898792300584/863476060041773096/image0.png true?

..what?

17:57

i have edge removed and didnt encounter something like that

@lodocus what version of 11?

22000

.1 or .51?

17:58

or even .65

51

yep then it's bullshit

17:59

does it break gadgets by any chance?

17:59

also fun fact: 22000.65 doesn't need TPM if you have 51 installed

you mean that big thing that has news in it etc?

lodocus

you mean that big thing that has news in it etc?

yep

i didnt sign in so i cant use it

18:00

it just tells me to sign in

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so idrk

if only all my shortcuts did bring to 11..

18:01

BIG SEARCH

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18:03

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18:04

R

18:04

T PC

18:04

A I/IO

18:04

E : 0000009

18:04

T ' . P PC .

18:04

P E

18:04

P F8 S S

18:08

huh. in 65 they made the welcome text under the spinning wheel

18:09

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serjG

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807550898792300584/863476060041773096/image0.png true?

i don't think so

18:46

it's bullshit

18:46

it only breaks opening widgets on browser

18:46

because it always defaults to edge

I was thinking so

serjG

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807550898792300584/863476060041773096/image0.png true?

BS

20:35

the taskbar is UWP

20:36

and that's the Windows 11 leaked taskbar aligned to the left, somehow?

20:36

(could be a photoshop)

20:36

also whatever uses embedded Edge WebView uses a separate runtime from the browser

20:37

you can see the runtime in add/remove programs (appwiz.cpl)

RaduTek

and that's the Windows 11 leaked taskbar aligned to the left, somehow?

no?

20:42

you can do it on the settings app

20:42

even on 21996

oh right, forgot

lodocus

i have edge removed and didnt encounter something like that

full removed or just disabled

removed

RaduTek

BS

Nope, pretty sure it's there.

ugh what the fuck??

05:27

11 asked me to just sign in with an ms account at login

05:27

i can either tell it to remind me every 3 days or just sign in

05:27

fuck you microsoft

Indefinitely so: https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/14/22575064/microsoft-windows-365-cloud-pc-launch-date-price-features . Have an itch to rename the channel yet? (edited)

Microsoft puts PCs in the cloud with Windows 365

Windows 365 lets you access Windows anywhere.

i am not touching that thing if you ask me

Yeah, nightmares through out with 11, as expected.

so basically geforce now but with a desktop??? (edited)

Basically.

.71 is the same as .65 for updating

18:11

it doesn't ask for tpm or secure boot

https://olympiacorpbiz-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/garsmi_olympia_windows_com/EdBwF3kjXH5Nn3_c0HYrC70BpjK5RktCyYjR2dIPH8jqGg?e=cnusJW not my link but here's 22000.71

19:52

in case someone needs it

19:52

oh and a heads up for anyone wanting to try it out

19:52

There is an issue in this build where Explorer.exe will crash when the date and time button on the Taskbar is clicked to access new notifications with Focus Assist turned off. The workaround for this is to enable Focus assist to priority or alarms mode. Note that when focus assist is turned on, notification popups won’t appear, but they will be in the notification center when opened.

(edited)

19:53

That link is odd

19:54

it's a sharepoint link

19:54

Onedrive equivelent afaik

19:54

It's basically OneDrive for Business

19:54

yes

i still have the original pc health check setup msi on my other pc (edited)

WindowsPCHealthCheckSetup.msi

13.46 MB

20:15

download dated june 28 2021

20:17

Version 2.3.210625001-s2

pretty much useless

ImSwordQueen

pretty much useless

and why is that

whynotwin11 is better and probably most of the features of that tool are probably useless now

20:21

also it runs only over 1803 so no 8.1 or 7

20:21

or any classic 10

for archiving purposes only

real or fake

13:50

Embedded image

fake

13:50

100% fake

Fake

13:50

fake

13:50

highly fake

13:50

Did Windows Server 2022 even come out yet?

they didnt even properly release Server 2022 and already with Server 2023 won't make sense

lol the logo on the pic reminds me of gr8leeks

haha very funnie

slashleaks could have done better than leaking a fake build of server 2023

13:56

@Scamdisk

or rather not bother with bs like this

dive into fake leaks with http://www.slashleaks.com/

slashwhat?

13:58

first time i hear of them

leak website?

14:00

btw the original post on slashleak is LOCKED cuz they dont allow software leaks LMAO

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14:01

@Deleted User

Oh wow...

14:02

that's just hilarious

slashleaks

14:22

don't want leaks

14:22

understandable

lqtroll

coming back home means coming back to Windows 11 02Hype

02Hype

ok

18:26

windows 11 is not perfect (edited)

18:26

but it is still better than 10 atm

not really lol

^^

i mean

20:57

it's slightly better

20:58

the performance isn't hot garbo on 11

guess this pc has a 50/50 chance of booting up

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22:06

one time it doesnt, other time it does

problem is with turning it on or with booting up windows?

if vista was good why not release windows vista 2?

That was Windows 7

if windows 7 was so good then why did they not release windows 7 2 (edited)

That was Windows 8- nope

if windows 8 was so great then why didn't we get windows 8 2

Windows 10-

22:50

8.1 :^)

if windows 10 was so great then why did they not release windows 10 2

windows 11......

if windows 11 was so great then why did they not release windows 11 2

"was"

if was was so great then why did they not release was 2

Windows 11 is buggy and slow

15:27

i would wait for an insider preview build on beta channel

15:27

it is not slow

15:27

windows 7 works slow for me too

15:28

but i still dont like ms's direction

Deleted User

Windows 11 is buggy and slow

so like 10

Deleted User

windows 7 works slow for me too

lol 7 doesn't work slow unless you're comparing it with XP

if u turn on classic theme 7 runs quite nicely on older stuff

yes

Deleted User

lol 7 doesn't work slow unless you're comparing it with XP

depends on the hardware I guess

Is it just me or is Windows 11 being rushed?

There's no rush, they literally do this every release, slap a new coat of paint on an OS and call it new.

not really

14:08

windows 11 is practically complete the UX is currently under test (edited)

14:09

but windows 11 is a coat of paint (UX) for 10 yes

14:09

windows xp -> vista windows 7 -> 8 those were not just coats of paint

Meant every release of 11 though.

10 you mean?

14:12

11 is literally 5 builds

Yes, enough to make judgments on the process of it.

Cobalt builds before we got 21996 leaked were 10

14:13

But ofc there were internal branches where it was 11 even earlier

14:14

But pretty safe to assume the windows 11 branding came in very late

Precisely, it will release half-baked, half-complete with patches similar to 10 and breaches will ensue.

WhyNotWin11 doesn't support Win7

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Use app verifier

18:22

Sorta works

Deleted User

WhyNotWin11 doesn't support Win7

I think it's cuz some of the requirements are impossible to detect on 7

probably directX 12 ultimate? (edited)

it supports 8.1 so I don't think so?

probably uefi?

20:33

that 7 doesn't have uefi

maybe

20:33

i think the program still works on 7 if you press ok

20:33

It doesn't

20:33

well it used to

20:33

i actually used the program on 7 when it first released

20:33

guess they changed it

20:33

i have a screenshot of it somewhere and yes it didn't detect a certain thing

20:33

uefi i think

20:36

2.3.0 added the warning for windows 7

20:38

tbf if you are running 7 the answer to the win 11 compatability question is most likely no anyway

20:39

Probably...

Deleted User

tbf if you are running 7 the answer to the win 11 compatability question is most likely no anyway

true

https://twitter.com/bdsams/status/1417904765967781892?s=20

Brad Sams (@bdsams)

LTSC fans (?) rejoice - Windows 11 will have an LTSC branch but not for a few years. Microsoft Confirms Windows 11 Will have LTSC Branch - https://t.co/DfCkh56xCP

for how many years then?

probably in 2050 Kek

Kek

Deleted User

for how many years then?

if i had to guess

03:48

it will be whenever the most revent version of 10's ltsc expires

03:48

witch i think is 2029

hell fucking no

06:05

they won't release an ltsc version in almost 8 years

06:05

that's not how it works

06:05

2 to 3 years is more reasonable

Especially when the ltsc coming this year's EoL is 2026

06:50

(2031 if IoT) (edited)

06:50

Also it was already obivous

yeah

They didn't update the branding for EnterpriseS and it's variants (N, Eval, NEval) in basebrd.dll.mui for nothing (edited)

06:52

But they didn't update the branding for IoT meaning that is dead after 10

06:52

aka the reason why IoT Enterprise LTSC gets 10 years as opposed to 5 years regular LTSC does (edited)

06:57

Also as for LTSC release schedule, why would they release in 8 years when they only give 5 years of support

06:59

so ofc they won't change the release schedule for LTSC versions

06:59

So except the 11 based one by 2024 (edited)

i was looking at this

14:32

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14:33

ltsc gets 11 years

Drips

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it's legit 2 month more how is that making it from 10 to 11 years look at when support starts (edited)

15:08

unless it's that shitty ass bri'ish date format ofc

Deleted User

unless it's that shitty ass bri'ish date format ofc

doubt it

15:11

It is MM/DD/YYYY in this case

15:11

oh yeah

15:11

right

15:12

who even invented dd/mm/yy when we have dd.mm.yy

15:12

hope this guy burns in hell

15:12

date formats are stupid

15:13

and betawiki for some reason uses the worst one

15:13

yy-dd-mm I believe? why tho

15:14

I guess at least it doesn't use / so it gets pass

15:15

iso date format

15:15

iso something idk forgot

15:16

iso9901?

15:16

whatever doesn't matter

15:16

it's the common date format on wikis and such

15:16

to avoid such problems

iso9601

16:48

yyyymmdd

Deleted User

who even invented dd/mm/yy when we have dd.mm.yy

Sticker

Harry

iso9601

ah

16:54

close enough

Deleted User

It is MM/DD/YYYY in this case

based

Deleted User

unless it's that shitty ass bri'ish date format ofc

Pretty sure that's american. Still shit though. (edited)

22000.100 released 8 mins ago

21:09

Yup

21:14

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/07/22/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-100/

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.100

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.100 to everyone in the Dev Channel! Changes and Improvements

Embedded image

21:53

someone has this as his uac prompts now lol.

21:54

Embedded image

21:55

Embedded image

21:55

why is this so funny

ninite

ninite is a package manager for windows

21:57

i was talking about the O, Yes, Segoe UI, Remeber me, C random text

why the fuck, micro$oft!!!!

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05:51

how do i geal with dat

05:52

pls help me im stuck

install vista

4

i wanna stay on windows 11 (edited)

too bad

trolla

1

05:53

winvista

yes

2

winvista

2

yes install vista and have no drivers (edited)

06:06

troll

drivers are stupid

06:07

i can drive my own computer

ok

06:08

so you're a driver?

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

i can drive my own computer

name every driver

freedom

if you're not a driver

06:10

you're a car then

joey lagano

so you're faulty

06:11

because American cars just don't

06:11

they just don't

they do

06:11

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stretched

normal and real

weird and fake

06:14

American cars

06:14

(edited)

cope

American cars

06:15

06:18

American cars

06:18

cope

wow

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08:50

they just put chat on your taskbar like that

Can you remove it though?

yes

08:57

still kinda annoying tho

xNedypro

pls help me im stuck

if you turn off optional telemetry it should stop

damnbro

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i dont need new shit in windows 11

19:19

i can just use nox for android apks

Skype be like:

some ppl still do use skype

Then again, teams' backend is also skype

i would be not surprised if skype gets rebranded

found that windows 11 has added some new functions. here is a list of all the new kernel32 functions: ActivatePackageVirtualizationContext AreShortNamesEnabled BasepFinishPackageActivation BasepGetPackageActivationTokenForFilePath BasepGetPackagedAppInfoForFile BasepReleasePackagedAppInfo CreatePackageVirtualizationContext DeactivatePackageVirtualizationContext DuplicatePackageVirtualizationContext EnableProcessOptionalXStateFeatures GetCurrentPackageVirtualizationContext GetMachineTypeAttributes GetNumaNodeProcessorMask2 GetProcessDefaultCpuSetMasks GetProcessesInVirtualizationContext GetTempPath2A GetTempPath2W GetThreadEnabledXStateFeatures GetThreadSelectedCpuSetMasks QueueUserAPC2 ReleasePackageVirtualizationContext RtlIsEcCode RtlVirtualUnwind2 SetProcessDefaultCpuSetMasks SetProcessDynamicEnforcedCetCompatibleRanges SetThreadSelectedCpuSetMasks

nothing too worrying atm

does this mean windows 10 extended kernel trolldissolve

trolldissolve

nah, that only means Server 2022 Extended Kernel lqtroll

lqtroll

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Stupid message in the top-right corner

ImSwordQueen

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photoshopped?

Deleted User

photoshopped?

nope

how

20:11

product policies?

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20:12

yep

20:12

product policies

cool

@Scamdisk what is the product policy for the "Produced by []"

@ImSwordQueen rip ms store, its blocked

i disabled it

ImSwordQueen

@Scamdisk what is the product policy for the "Produced by []"

Security-SPP-AllowBrandingOverride

oh ty

np

also i disabled telemetry

I know why I'm getting amd driver timeouts

21:28

windows update automatically replaced my current gpu driver with the windows update version

21:29

breaking everything

21:29

troll

what windows?

look at the channel name

XD

Okay, I'm downloading the latest Windows 11 build using UUPdump

07:47

I don't know if it will let me install it though

07:47

1. I use the Legacy BIOS mode 2. I have TPM 1.2 3. No UEFI - no Secure Boot

07:48

that's why I first had the idea of installing Windows 10

07:48

then going to 11 via Windows Insider

Good luck trying to run WIndows 11

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08:54

How it's been going for the past 1.5 hours

The summaries make it feel long, but that's definitely a normal occurance.

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09:04

I hope it was an optional component

09:06

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09:13

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09:13

Gosh

09:13

Oh wait - Error 403...

09:13

that means Forbidden

I made a 22000.100 iso yesterday and nothing went wrong

09:17

it just worked

using UUPdump?

yea

odd

I've never had any issues with uupdump

Again, I hope none of those failed components are important

did you pick multiple skus on the website?

Only one - Pro

ok

09:19

I know picking multiple skus breaks uupdump

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09:19

The total size should be 3.02GB

09:19

as it said on the website

09:19

so, it's close to finishing

I'll send the missing files

09:20

which ones you need?

I don't know yet

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10:32

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10:57

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10:58

Fail.

10:58

And it didn't reach the 3.02GB

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10:59

Okay, so I got into the utility again and it started downloading the unfinished files again

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10:59

it was smart enough to not download the already downloaded files

11:04

No errors for now

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11:34

I did it!

11:34

well, it's doing it

11:40

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11:56

It is done!

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11:56

cool

11:56

how much did you even wait

11:57

I had begun at 09:37 I think

11:57

now it's 13:57

11:58

4 hours 20 minutes.

11:58

not bad

11:58

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11:59

I'm gonna test it first in a VM

11:59

then I'm gonna attempt to install it on a second partition on my PC through WinNTSetup

is there gonna be a release date for w11?

I don't think there is one

12:01

but weirdly enough, 22000 will be the RTM build

well 22000 IS THE RTM build

so we are almost at the finish line, yes?

it's just that shell shit is slowly getting backported

We are already at RTM?

12:03

Sorry, this is just really confusing

22000 was always RTM, it's just labeled as a Preview because the shell shit is getting backported from co_refresh

12:03

the shell is beta part

12:03

the core is RTM

It didn't take very long to develop the core

and 21996 is literally like let's just say, 4 builds away from 22000

12:05

so what got leaked back then was almost the finished product in it's core

Deleted User

It didn't take very long to develop the core

No surprise, it's literally just 10; they really don't need to hide it but they do.

true

and they aren't really hiding it properly, especially when CMD literally shows NT version 10.0

well tbf 11 was in dev since a while, cobalt is basically 11

12:12

but still, it's basically a coat of paint for the windows 10 core

but then there's the confusion of if Server 2022 should be considered 10 or 11

12:12

frankly, it's 10

yes

i mean in fairness windows 8 early betas were legit just 7

but windows 8 turned out to be, well, windows 8

yeah fair lol

12:13

very different from windows 7

and what you're seeing rn is basically late windows 11 betas, not early

VERY lol

WinDVD

i mean in fairness windows 8 early betas were legit just 7

It evolved. 11 didn't, it's just a rehash for reputation points.

maybe it's due to the fact that MS tried real hard to hide 11

12:15

but some stuff slipped, and 21996 leaked so they failed

They easily have the resources to hide it from the public, it just doesn't add up. (edited)

they tried to pull a apple sorta thing

They are probably thinking of abandoning the OS formula entirely.

they just chose to instead hide the fact they were working on a "entirely new OS" by delivering 10 builds with some shit from the newer OS

If they think Windows 11 is innovative, they're lying to themselves

Scamdisk

they just chose to instead hide the fact they were working on a "entirely new OS" by delivering 10 builds with some shit from the newer OS

That's unnecessary effort, it only will cost them time and money.

also the fact that they messed up their release stuff

12:19

like there's 3 21H2s

12:19

19044 (consumers that can't run 11 and LTSC) 20348 (server 2022 and hololensOS) 22000 (11) (edited)

12:20

the easy fix would had been releasing 20348 as 10 21H2 and scrapping 19044 entirely

12:20

but no

You could say that, but it could be that the development is just neglected and lazily put together too without any regard or consideration on how it'll end up. (edited)

more like the management is a mess

12:23

just 20348 and 22000 would had made sense (edited)

12:23

but no, can't give the flashy new settings icon to consumers on 10

12:25

also another thing, there's client related shit on 20348 uups

12:25

there's just no LP

this squished thumbnail thing better not make it into the rtm

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Time to play a game...

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13:23

"Will Windows 11 fit on a 25GB disk?" (edited)

13:26

lol

13:26

doubt it

13:29

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13:29

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13:30

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13:30

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13:31

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13:32

In the WBM, Win11 calls itself "Windows 10 Professional"

13:33

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13:35

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this squished thumbnail thing better not make it into the rtm

@Ximonite you meant stretched

Squished

13:43

It is smaller than the actual image

what about this then? is it squished?

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Yes

13:44

BTW, Win11 is still getting ready.

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14:10

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Startup sound only used in OOBE?

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RostiTheGamer

Startup sound only used in OOBE?

I don't know (edited)

Oki

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14:12

Two Back buttons

14:14

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RostiTheGamer

Startup sound only used in OOBE?

no

14:18

startup sound is most obviously used at startup

Ooooooh

Got through OOBE

14:21

what sort of hardware do you even have

14:22

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14:22

TPM 1.2, Legacy BIOS mode and no Secure Boot

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you won but at what cost?

I deployed my Win11 copy through WinNTSetup

14:30

I thought I'd test the newest Win11 build

i need a 22000.100 iso (edited)

14:57

link

UUPdump

15:00

https://uupdump.net/download.php?id=ca0143aa-6f03-45ee-949b-2189478f633f&pack=en-us&edition=professional

Summary for Windows 11 Insider Preview 10.0.22000.100 (co_release) ...

Download UUP files from Windows Update servers with ease. This project is not affiliated with Microsoft Corporation.

15:00

here is my config

the Door guy

link

https://uhzl.github.io/notpm/

15:21

direct download links

15:21

you don't have to wait for uupdump

uupdump doesn't take very long tho

15:24

it took like 15 minutes for me

depends on your internet connection to be honest

15:24

for me uupdump can take hours

15:25

downloading one file is faster than many, hence why i don't use uupdump (edited)

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17:33

Looking good!

17:33

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17:37

I don't have a digital license though?

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17:37

Thanks for the free license...

Deleted User

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eh (edited)

17:51

whatever

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18:22

Random glitch

18:24

Windows Sandbox doesn't work properly.

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For now...

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18:39

"Windows 11 User"

18:39

i should probably update my roles lol

18:39

@Deleted User

18:40

What are you using right now?

18:40

oh well don't need to change anything

Deleted User

What are you using right now?

7 on a pc and 10 ltsc on another but i'm about to go to 7 on that one

18:40

so not worth putting 10 tbh

18:41

How about Vista and NT 3/4

18:44

i use those in vms

18:44

don't have compatible pcs

18:44

but not everyday i last used NT like one week ago, but it doesn't matter

18:44

it's a state of contiunity tbh

i kinda want this

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19:03

if only it was real

You could get starter up to 1904x with rs2 files and tricks

i know

19:09

but i mean the starter insider preview sku

Scamdisk

You could get starter up to 1904x with rs2 files and tricks

wait really? damn

ImSwordQueen

but i mean the starter insider preview sku

get a earlier 2004 build and shove rs2 starter shit into it lqtroll

lqtroll

LOL

Or idk, try making starter from 16199

modern problems require modern crappy solutions

Aka the last build on UUP servers with starter files

Windows 10 Starter Insider Preview In S Mode trollDark

trollDark

19:15

also scamdisk

19:15

how do you put the corporation in the produced by?

registry thing afaik

ok but where

In the usual HKLM/software/Microsoft/Windows NT/Current Version/

got it

19:24

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arson corporation*

nah that's scamdisk's corporation (edited)

fair

also it says it's enterprise but it automatically modified the other ones to starter

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i think the build 22000.100 files from uupdump simply installed build 22000.1 again

23:59

the please wait text is bold in 22000.100, but normal in 22000.1

hot take: 21996 is overrated

literally no one has 21996 anymore

09:06

no one talks about it anymore

09:06

why would it be overrated

the only build i've used is 21996 lol

09:34

but it was overrated before the windows event yeah

ApertureSketch

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@Vruh 2 that's 21996 right there

ImSwordQueen

also it says it's enterprise but it automatically modified the other ones to starter

its still 22000.1 at its core

Deleted User

@Vruh 2 that's 21996 right there

Thats a month ago screenshot

pretty sure win32 has 21996

still; why would it be overrated

.65+ are overrated too

it's all just windows fucking 11

12:06

just say windows 11 is overrated

12:06

what the fuck

12:07

am i supposed to not like 22000.71 over 65 for whatever reason?

12:07

legit what

if 65 kept the 10 start menu it would've been cool

then what's the point

12:07

just use windows 10

12:07

jesus fucking christ

12:08

the only benefit of using windows 11 right now is the shell and you want the 10 one

12:08

just use 10

if only 10 wouldn't been garbage

simple easy fast

In my experience vanilla 10 is slower on the same hw than 21996 for example (edited)

to me it's all the same shit

12:08

same performance

for my personal experience

Vruh 2

the only benefit of using windows 11 right now is the shell and you want the 10 one

windows 11 has way less telemetry

10 corrupted my 8.1 install

12:08

so it's double garbage than 11

12:09

fuck 10

Ximonite

windows 11 has way less telemetry

what does that even mean?

Betajyst4094

In my experience vanilla 10 is slower on the same hw than 21996 for example (edited)

Much slower, much buggier

it's still windows

12:09

it's still microsoft

And resource eating

it means jack shit

Betajyst4094

And resource eating

yep same

12:09

on a vm with the same settings

Vruh 2

what does that even mean?

less data collection

10 performs shit

12:09

meanwhile 11 flies

to me 10 performs like shit just like 11 eats my ram for lunch

have you downloaded windows 11 leak + activator.exe by accident xD?

I don't notice any RAM issues with 11 but that could be cause I have 32GB of RAM

no

because you are the only one having ram issues

straight from uup

12:10

not ram issues

12:10

ram consumption

12:10

just like 10

Ximonite

I don't notice any RAM issues with 11 but that could be cause I have 32GB of RAM

14 here

12:11

16 before the Accident (edited)

8gb here

12:18

no problems with ram

2gb here too

Ximonite

windows 11 has way less telemetry

[citation needed]

Ximonite

windows 11 has way less telemetry

real?

https://discordapp.com/channels/834204256210386944/854415984525443152/858500100895670293

19:56

^^^ @Deleted User @Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Scamdisk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20mmuOkpbow

this?

no lol

Ximonite

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this

19:59

idk if this is really proof

win32

so it is not as busy as 1803 home oob, or even win7 post-diagtrack

diagtrack?

diagnostics tracking service

20:02

it's a telemetry service

oh

Ximonite

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I just checked that on my Win7 install, no sign of svchost.exe or any other Windows process

20:06

It's mostly Firefox, Discord, VMware and that's it

Ximonite

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bruh you gotta do it with no programs open

not really necessary

23:32

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23:32

i don't get any handles here

Ximonite

bruh you gotta do it with no programs open

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Thonk

WAIT A MINUTE https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-edge-browser-shows-up-in-store-on-windows-11/

Microsoft Edge Browser shows up in the Store on Windows 11

With Microsoft loosening up the restrictions on what can go in the Microsoft Store on Windows 11, its Edge browser has appeared.

yeah what's wrong with that

23:51

the store will have all three different types of apps

"provided and updated by microsoft corporation ii"

lol.

23:52

sus

It’s developed by Microsoft Corporation II, whatever that means. --XDA Developers

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

It’s developed by Microsoft Corporation II, whatever that means. --XDA Developers

microsoft corporation 2

i think its legacy edge

02:42

based on the screenshot

windoe

https://betanews.com/2021/07/28/microsoft-says-it-will-not-be-possible-to-bypass-windows-11-system-requirements/

Sofia Wyciślik-Wilson

Microsoft says it will not be possible to bypass Windows 11 system ...

Windows 11 is now just a matter of months away, and system requirements are a concern. While this is not going to be a problem for anyone buying a new computer with the operating system pre-installed, it is a major consideration for anyone upgrading to Windows 11 from Windows 10.

It was coming.

Also MS disabled the comments on that video because of people complaining

Yes, but they will remove it because of the backlash but the shitstorm will only start by then.

Doubt it for some reason

Eitherway, it will just get worse.

Scamdisk

https://betanews.com/2021/07/28/microsoft-says-it-will-not-be-possible-to-bypass-windows-11-system-requirements/

oof

Doubt it for some reason

You seen them yourself, they were so disconnected in that presentation alone. (edited)

Now I kinda regret people aren't as demanding as in the vista times

17:37

Not like I'll be using 11 anytime soon

You used 10 already, so you used 11.

i feel like its still gonna be possible to install 11 on anything

MassClaw

You used 10 already, so you used 11.

17:44

10 was pain

17:44

11 wasn't very bad

17:44

They've totally incorporated some significant changes

Are you sure? But guess we have to wait for a stable release, try not updating and see if it breaks anything. (edited)

17:46

Hate to say it but 10 wasn't that bad either (disregarding how unfinished it was of course) at the beginning, but when the updates after the stable release hit, the pain began. (edited)

Also seems like we might be getting nickel builds sooner than expected

these are bad days for those people who think they will literally die from exposure to the eol windows editions

10 might literally die from it so they aren't that far off.

im not saying someting youve never heard before, yes, but i really dont understand this requirement change

Looks like little Gamble did get his grandma a nickel.

OmG i CaNt UsE tHiS i WiLl GeT ViRuS iN tHe FiRSt NanO SeConD

17:50

That's how some people over exaggerate security

what is the point of all of this? to make user complaints about performance lesser?

nah, to make people buy new pcs

I haven't got a virus on Windows 7, only AutoKMS and two trojans that came through a fishy torrent - MSE removed it immediately (edited)

In the middle of a chip crisis

Scamdisk

nah, to make people buy new pcs

how will they profit off of th

17:52

ah.

they get some cut out of OEMs cuz ya know

yeah

and also people buying new licenses

Yes, they realised their previous approach wasn't as profitable, now double it with that and more money rains. Now ads and new licences. (edited)

such a move especially after dominating the marketshare

Wonder if it sway anywhere else after the above's* move. (edited)

"oh my PC is not supported anymore, i guess I will just buy a new one" - most people

17:56

and this is how ewaste is made

Going to be a rough one.

It's going to be a field day for e waste wanderers

and interesting one to watch

Most might not even know they have a tpm option in their firmware (edited)

Sixth gen i5's and i7's

17:58

Hoho

right.

Left?

forward

backward

up

18:04

people don't get offended by the actual bad things, but they get offended by jokes

18:04

we live in a society

Scamdisk

up

Down it goes.

and interesting one to watch

Speaking of falling, it will be a giant fuckery fest of people being divided if it's good or not, just like 10. But this time, they get double the trash in exchange.

Scamdisk

nah, to make people buy new pcs

true

You poor? Fuck you give us money - MS

living in a third world country? then just dont troll

troll

Probably something microsoft will actually say at this point.

gotta love how the home version now requires an internet connection nad ms account

22:57

what a quality os

Just shows you how much it will flop, quality wise anyway because people will still download it, not that i can blame them. (edited)

i broke my windows 7 install so now im using 11 as a daily driver

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00:50

it feels slow but raw cpu performance is a lot better than 7 when you get into intensive work like this video im rendering here (edited)

00:50

but as far as daily use its sluggish

00:50

kind of weird

Michael

i broke my windows 7 install so now im using 11 as a daily driver

cringe, use 8.1

01:03

based paint.net icon

01:03

cringe chrome

01:03

based winamp

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

cringe, use 8.1

windows 11 is not based or cringe

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

cringe, use 8.1

well another reason for upgrading was that i need the latest versions of adobe products which dont work any lower than 10 v2004

A 1:1 ratio, not bad.

it feels slow but raw cpu performance is a lot better than 7 when you get into intensive work like this video im rendering here

Doubt that's the case, maybe it's better than 10.

it is neutral

a lot of my plugins dont work on any older versions anymore

Scamdisk

https://betanews.com/2021/07/28/microsoft-says-it-will-not-be-possible-to-bypass-windows-11-system-requirements/

windows 11 is not based or cringe

Just look at this then.

it's probably not gonna actually be hard to bypass

01:07

microsoft is trying to get normies to get tpm 2

Ximonite

it's probably not gonna actually be hard to bypass

yeah, this is microsoft we're talking about here

01:08

creators of the xbox 360, "most secure game console of all time"

Perhaps, maybe it will just collapse apart and arrived as it was currently.

01:11

But still, they are the same guys behind UWP, it might just snap in place this time.

Ximonite

it's probably not gonna actually be hard to bypass

they said oems will be able to bypass tpm 2.0 check so def people will hack 11

windows 11 still uses the original 25-30 year old usb game controllers ui with that exact same microsoft sidewinder icon from windows 95

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it's still work in progress

12:54

shit on 11 inconsistency after the os releases

Michael

i broke my windows 7 install so now im using 11 as a daily driver

:/

14:27

you do you

i finally got an ssd

ooooo nice

time to install... windows 10

14:27

honeslty

i was getting sick of the dwm issues

14:27

on 11

ok

Windows 11, more like ewaste 11 /s

ye

14:28

it will be a fail

so i'm gonna go ahead and ask, has anyone had an issue on 22000.100 where dwm randomly fails and puts the entire windows shell and contexts menus behind windows?

no

i've seen someone else have it on betawiki

i would buy an ssd but only for windows 7 and xubuntu tbh

14:29

it takes a lot for time to load (edited)

dwm likes to fail for me for a while after a few days after i install either 10 or 11

ok

alright.

if i would have to use windows 10 or 11 i would disinfect it as much as i know

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/08/04/microsoft-direct-operations-products-and-packaging-to-be-zero-waste-by-2030/

Microsoft commits to achieve ‘zero waste’ goals by 2030 - The Offic...

Every year, more than 11 billion tons of waste are produced worldwide according to the United Nations Environment Programme. A byproduct of our daily lives and every sector of the world’s economies, the trash we discard pollutes our land, clogs our waterways, depletes our natural resources and contaminates the very air we breathe. We recognize...

14:32

How ironic

Deleted User

if i would have to use windows 10 or 11 i would disinfect it as much as i know

by that i mean disable a lot of things in winaero tweaker and use windows 10 debloater

considering Windows 11 system requirements will lead to ewaste (edited)

you can install vista on a pentium 3 and 512mb ram

14:33

maybe even pentium 2

Windows Vista runs on 256mbs too

not optimal

14:33

at all

Yes

people did just that

14:33

and complained

ye but windows 11 requires a lot of resources

14:34

4gb ram is alright

Not really

but tpm 2.0 (edited)

The only true concern is the CPU gen requirements

tpm 2.0 is not additional resources

TPM could still be bypassed

14:34

even tho MS says no

me who has 6 gen: alright I am fading out

14:34

RYZEN 5 1600 IS A CPU MADE FOR GAMING

me who has zen 1: alright I am fading out

and still does not support w11

Me who has 3rd gen: i died long ago

your next destination: linux

me who has a 3rd gen: linux time

The thing is, i already use Ubuntu Unity

14:35

So uhh

Vruh 2

tpm 2.0 is not additional resources

An entirely different pc, yes.

i already use xubuntu

MassClaw

An entirely different pc, yes.

no

Honestly unity has been the best de for me, so ofc i was dissapointed when 17.10 switched to gnome

i liked dwm

14:36

(dynamic window manager)

but thank God they were nice enough to keep unity in the repos

Scamdisk

Honestly unity has been the best de for me, so ofc i was dissapointed when 17.10 switched to gnome

you can still install some other desktop enviroment if u want to (edited)

14:37

like i do with lubuntu

Vruh 2

(dynamic window manager)

Amazing.

no

Yes.

Deleted User

you can still install some other desktop enviroment if u want to (edited)

Above

Vruh 2

(dynamic window manager)

you mean Desktop Window Manager

apparently

14:37

not really

14:37

2 different things

He was taking the piss on dwn, because it deserves it.

i wasn't

MassClaw

He was taking the piss on dwn, because it deserves it.

IT'S M NOT N

dwm for linux is a tiling window manager

14:38

dwm for windows... well

14:38

you know it

Deleted User

IT'S M NOT N

Huh? Oh that mistake again, my bad.

Port Linux DWM to windows lqtroll

lqtroll

i mean

Vruh 2

dwm for linux is a tiling window manager

Yes, yes i know. But window's dwm is another alias for explorer. (edited)

technically it exists

14:39

based on fucking autohotkey

14:39

it kinda exists

Scamdisk

Port Linux DWM to windows lqtroll

lqtroll

LMAO

replicates the functionality

MassClaw

Yes, yes i know. But window's dwm is another alias for explorer. (edited)

no?

MassClaw

Yes, yes i know. But window's dwm is another alias for explorer. (edited)

No

dwm for windows is the compositor

14:39

explorer is just the windows shell

aka what does all the aero effects and shit

think of it as compton/picom

14:39

on linux

Yep yep, meant later in 8.x and above they sort of merged.

Or better, Compiz

MassClaw

Yep yep, meant later in 8.x and above they sort of merged.

they didn't

14:40

dwm and explorer remain 2 separate entities

MassClaw

Yes, yes i know. But window's dwm is another alias for explorer. (edited)

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No, DWM can run without explorer

vice versa

But the reverse depends

Huh? oh yeah then i meant the reverse case then. (edited)

on server 2012 r2 it works fine without dwm

14:40

windows 10 breaks but it's because alot of stuff depends on dwm there

14:41

either way gotta go install windows on this shit

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and DWM is not combined with explorer in 8

14:42

only metro shell requires it

also sorta predicted the 11 logo back in 2020

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Ah yeah, then i misremembered that. Yep the relation with UWP and explorer is what i meant, my bad i'm retarded.

windows 10 breaks but it's because alot of stuff depends on dwm there

And explorer.

Ah yeah, then i misremembered that. Yep the relation with UWP and explorer is what i meant, my bad i'm retarded.

that's in 10

oh dear

and explorer still works after it crashes a lot

Explorer does not break if dwm is off even on 10

14:44

uwp and metro does

I mean explorer does break in a lot ways

It's just some other shit that does break which in turn break explorer

I tried to disable DWM in 11 and just got black screen

Yeah UWP is another alias for explorer is what i had in mind and fucked it up, my bad.

UWP is not explorer either

UWP is huge part of 10 explorer tho

but explorer has UWP code shoved in because yes

In 10 it does but it exists separately too. (edited)

it is not by itself UWP yes

i mean they made the taskbar xaml to prevent custom theming

14:46

yet sib++ came in anyway

Wonder how long it will last, but as long as the API is still there though.

i mean they made the taskbar xaml to prevent custom theming

It's implemented haphazardly, but it still stands.

honestly I think XAML and metro/UWP is bullshit

That's because it is, but UWP did score success anyway.

Microsoft: we want windows 11 to fail. don't try to make it into a success

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what people

ImSwordQueen

Microsoft: we want windows 11 to fail. don't try to make it into a success

it will get hacked

04:56

theres no doubt about that

04:57

microsoft are even stupider than i thought if they think they can prevent it

04:57

lOl

04:57

im running the preview version on a completely unsupported machine (no uefi, secure boot, tpm, etc) right now even (edited)

Michael

im running the preview version on a completely unsupported machine (no uefi, secure boot, tpm, etc) right now even (edited)

They'll most likely let pre-rtm insider builds run

05:01

Them boom

Betajyst4094

Them boom

it will get hacked regardless

05:01

thats obvious

Checks embedded into the kernel

this is microsoft we're talking about here

05:02

creators of the "most secure console of all time" (xbox 360) and windows 10

Unless they are really insistent this time

05:03

Eh guessing makes no sense (edited)

Michael

creators of the "most secure console of all time" (xbox 360) and windows 10

i mean in legit fairness, there is still no softmod for the 360 cause of that pesky hypervisor

checks might be easily bypassable on 22000 deltas

05:06

but on Nickel and future versions, doubt it

WinDVD

i mean in legit fairness, there is still no softmod for the 360 cause of that pesky hypervisor

there used to be

05:06

but they patched it in a kernel update

the king kong shader exploit?

ya

that was really really early though

yup

and required HD DVD

hd-dvd or dvd-r dl i believe

and this is why people get either a Wii or a PS3 i guess

dvd dl was easily avialable

Those are more hackable

05:08

Especially the Wii

wii was cool

05:08

i had a bunch of them with wiiflow

you need to have an Xenon phat (the ones VERY prone to rrod) on OG blades while hoping your console doesnt go into that old 50% statistic

Guess the 360 is just the worst for well, modding due to all the security shit Ms poured into it

Yep, But JTAG/RGH does the trick these days

WinDVD

you need to have an Xenon phat (the ones VERY prone to rrod) on OG blades while hoping your console doesnt go into that old 50% statistic

there were even jaspers on blades

05:09

but only for the first week or so that jaspers launched

05:09

cuz NXE came out right after

JTAG being pretty uncommon since it doesnt work on many consoles

05:09

NXE was cool IMO

yeah nxe was nice

kinect dash was just flat NXE

WinDVD

JTAG being pretty uncommon since it doesnt work on many consoles

i have a jasper rgh 1.2 which instaboots just like a jtag

then came the NEWEST dash

05:10

the one we all love to hate

meanwhile the PS3 and the Wii been much easier to exploit

05:10

Especially the Wii, that one is a joke

Scamdisk

meanwhile the PS3 and the Wii been much easier to exploit

and the wii u/3ds even

i have so many 360's

and switch

05:10

i have a modded wii u and i had a 2ds modded but it died

05:10

i want to get a new 3ds xl eventually and mod it

Nintendo is a joke with security, yes

1 corona slim, 2 Jasper V2's

i have a modded ps vita too

WinDVD

1 corona slim, 2 Jasper V2's

i have a trinity slim, 2x jasper 512mb, 1 xenon, 1 falcon

corona slim has the broken touch power button so sometimes turns off by itself

DS had not much security at all, so ofc R4s came in

damn is the xenon still holding?

the xenon was built from old rusty parts i found in my uncles shed (edited)

05:11

he used to buy 360's dirt cheap and fix them in the early 2010s

05:11

and yes it still works

05:12

even after those parts sitting out in the mud and wood clippings in his shed (edited)

just beef up the cooling and it should last awhile

dusted them off, put it together and it worked (edited)

fresh thermal paste and stuff

i havent used the xenon in forever cuz i have no need

05:12

my jasper 512mb rgh 1.2 does everything i need

i havent really used any of my 360's at all lol

05:12

i wanted to do an RGH

05:12

but i don't trust my solder skills

WinDVD

i havent really used any of my 360's at all lol

i havent played any of my consoles in a long time cuz i dont have a tv right now

and the stuff you need is expensive

05:13

like the programmers

theres a 1080i 4:3 hd crt thats literally never been used, pretty much brand new in my aunts room thats gonna be mine once i can move it

since you only need it once but its reusable

WinDVD

like the programmers

just a tip, dont buy a chinese clone programmer, get a genuine one from a reputable shop

yeah i know

the clones are not identical like they are with coolrunners and will uite litearlly brick your console

i probably wont do it

and its unfixable after that

05:13

you cant even restore the original nand

05:13

on the other hand the coolrunner rev c clones for rgh 1.2 are identical to the real ones

05:14

u can get those clones for 5 bucks on ebay

05:14

thats what i did my rgh 1.2 with

05:14

and it instaboots once u get the timings set up right (edited)

05:14

takes some tinkering to get the timings right though

05:14

i fiddled with mine for about 30 minutes and finally got it down

You see this? What do you think was wrong with it. (i bought it awhile ago)

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WinDVD

You see this? What do you think was wrong with it. (i bought it awhile ago)

?

the hard drive alone made the cost worth it

05:15

Legit the "fault" was a bad power brick

05:15

thats it

05:15

its a Jasper V2

WinDVD

the hard drive alone made the cost worth it

in my jasper rgh 1.2 i have one of the original un-marked hard drives that just says "HDD" on the top with a 750gb sata hdd in it (edited)

late 2010 jasper

i believe mine is a 2008

05:15

im not sure

05:15

i replaced the thermal paste and my uncle helped me with the soldering for the rgh 1.2

hmmm

the dvd drive isnt the original one though and doesnt work cuz i havent been able to flash it yet

how did you deal with the xclamp

05:16

heard you need a special tool

WinDVD

how did you deal with the xclamp

just used a flathead screwdriver and was very careful

hmm

i wouldnt suggest it though

05:16

you can very easily break a trace on the board that way

last time i tried to solder it didnt end well

05:16

lol

and after that its unrecoverable

WinDVD

last time i tried to solder it didnt end well

my uncle was an electrical engineer or something, his soldering skills are literally top notch

05:17

he was using a $5 chinese knockoff soldering iron that would burn up every 30 seconds and managed to get the soldering perfect on the rgh with that

05:17

he said hes gonna teach me soldering

my dad can solder but i don't think he's ever soldered small things though

i cant wait to learn cuz its a useful skill to have

WinDVD

my dad can solder but i don't think he's ever soldered small things though

xbox rgh is basically microsoldering

05:17

its not just small, its miniscule

05:17

it takes incredibly steady hands and lots of skill to pull off

sounds like not my kinda job

05:18

i have terrible fine motor skills

WinDVD

sounds like not my kinda job

ive been working on & building things my whole life so im sure i could pull it off with some practice

if i could solder i would have a working charge port on my DSi right now

05:18

lol

WinDVD

if i could solder i would have a working charge port on my DSi right now

my 2ds has some kind of issue i believe with the charging port

05:19

the charging led kind of flickers and it wont turn on at all

maybe bad connection in the port

05:20

who knows

im not sure what the deal is, when i found it it was up on the back of the couch and had had something sticky spilled on it (edited)

i dont lol

05:20

oof

the sleep button barely even moves cuz its got what looks like caramel or something all up in it

05:20

at this point its probably easier to just buy a new one

time to take apart

considering how cheap they are these days

and c l e a n

05:20

i bet the charge problem is gunk in the contacts

05:20

lol

WinDVD

i bet the charge problem is gunk in the contacts

no the charging contacts are clean

05:21

i inspected them

No idea then

05:22

probably some wacky damage

05:22

i dont really know anything about the 2DS

05:22

only 3DS based console ive owned was the OG and it ended up in 2 pieces

05:22

no idea how

05:23

suspiciously though it was stashed in a folded mattress

05:23

one that hadn't been used in ages

Michael

and the wii u/3ds even

3ds yes it was easy. Soft modding was kinda hard

07:40

The psp was a joke too in term of security

what if windows 11 becomes nt 11

04:25

what will happen

then this channel will be renamed to Utah

fuck yeah

04:26

utah based

windows 11 is so based. rather. windows 11 is so utah troll

troll

or rather renamed to winblows lqtroll

lqtroll

sus\

thanks

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unpin* these links are invalid now

@ImSwordQueenso you don't want this pinned?

if a mod/admin can remove these messages it's appreciated (and pin the message above this one too thx) https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/854415984525443152/854533964148375553 https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/854415984525443152/854419065418416179

17:07

these 2 messages

17:07

because the links are broken

so i can pin the other, just that msg with last 2 links?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

this one is already pinned

17:08

those 2 messages need to get unpinned

alright

17:08

how about just removing it then

17:08

so as to not get confused

if you want to

thx

these 2 links are broken so it's pointless to keep them

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17:10

it will just confuse people

ye

17:10

link me to them

17:10

and i'll take them down

https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/854415984525443152/854533964148375553 https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/854415984525443152/854419065418416179

17:11

probably keep the first one

17:11

and just "unpin" it

done

nvm it's gone

17:11

ty

np, thanks for pointing it out

windows 10 1809 ltsc link? for the multilanguage ISOs

pinned should have it

1809 ltsc x64 is oversized for my 4gb USB stick

22:24

and server 2016 actually has longer support than 10 2016 ltsb

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

1809 ltsc x64 is oversized for my 4gb USB stick

you can try to convert the WIM to ESD

no way. they predicted the windows 11 logo in 2008

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Whoa!

16:21

They sure did

ImSwordQueen

no way. they predicted the windows 11 logo in 2008

what about this

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well that's just predicting the microsoft logo from 2012

Vruh 2

well that's just predicting the microsoft logo from 2012

so the 2008 one isn't?

both of em

make it all blue and its suddenly the 11 logo

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I was gonna say this is 10 but then I remembered the channels got merged

why are there 10 builds still built for arm32

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13:01

(technically server but still 10 at the end of the day)

ImSwordQueen

why are there 10 builds still built for arm32

why not

Scamdisk

Click to see attachment 🖼️

windows server but without gui

also known as

15:55

windows server core

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/05/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-120/

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.120

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.120 to everyone in the Dev and Beta Channels! Changes and Improvements We are introducing a new Family widget for MSA accounts!

Deleted User

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/05/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-120/

tons of bug fixes

18:01

That's good

Bug fixes, good good cuz multiple monitors is kinda broken on the current build

is it?

is there any way to get the windows 10 ui back on windows 11?

23:55

including the old right click menu and explorer ribbon (edited)

what's the point of doing this

23:56

it's dev builds

23:56

they're gonna break all your methods every update

23:56

Use Windows 10 then

ahh i really dont feel like reinstalling

like in like 75 they removed the start menu

i guess i will

maybe reverse upgrade xd

i didnt upgrade, i did a clean install

I meant upgrade from 11 to 10

23:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD5vt9UEDMA

Downgrading from Windows 10 build 21343 to 20H2

Deleted User

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD5vt9UEDMA

ok ill try it

haven't tried it myself so idk if this still works

23:58

I know 8.1 to 8.0 works cuz I tried it myself

23:59

but I mean you're gonna be reinstalling anyway

23:59

worth a shot

i think im just gonna clean install

00:01

this looks complicated and i dont have a whole lot on my boot drive anyways, just programs

arialgirl

Bug fixes, good good cuz multiple monitors is kinda broken on the current build

thats rather particular

13:57

i'd guess its the video drivers not being optimized for win11

13:57

AMD ones at that troll

troll

Deleted User

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD5vt9UEDMA

lol

13:58

i watched that

docR

AMD ones at that troll

troll

tbh i think its amd more than win11 myself

No shit

14:40

But it is beta sw, so we can't really blame them (yet)

so are amd drivers

If they make a driver with this bug for RTM, then you can draw a mustache over lisa su

On the new update now. I’ll let you know how it goes.

ImSwordQueen

why are there 10 builds still built for arm32

WOW64

does anyone know what this is lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLjIO1hVHbI

weird bug in windows 11

15:55

has this happened to anyone else

hmm

i'm assuming it's only a bug in the last windows 11 beta channel

a similar thing happens in cpu-z but also while using windows 10

while it does that the whole os just lags

18:13

ok it's not just me https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/ot3n54/window_dragging_lag/

r/Windows11 - Window Dragging Lag

38 votes and 17 comments so far on Reddit

18:14

apparently it's due to having a high mouse polling rate

https://www.revi.cc/

Up to +50% Faster Framerates up and latency down

20:08

has downloads for 1709 S1.0 (not U4.0), 20H2 S1.0 and 21H1 1.0

wanna know what's faster than some fucked up windows 10 distro

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

wanna know what's faster than some fucked up windows 10 distro

what?

vista

wrong

vista is fast

any os is fast on hardware that loads its code fast

1709 U4.0 exists but they dont provide downloads for it, only S1.0 (edited)

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if speed is what you want, arch linux is 10x faster than vista. and i can prove that too clueless

clueless

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

wanna know what's faster than some fucked up windows 10 distro

I can confirm it isn't fucked up

it is fucked up it's windows 10

Vista was fucked up too :)

wrong

it literally was tho smugg

smugg

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

1709 U4.0 exists but they dont provide downloads for it, only S1.0 (edited)

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20:11

idk whats with revision not providing any revios 1709 u4.0 iso

anyway no more o/t here.

what's o/t?

offtopic

okay

winblows 11

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

wanna know what's faster than some fucked up windows 10 distro

works fine for me

Same here

unless i break it on my own, It Just Works™️

Yep!

20:33

Why would I break the OS I'm using though? XD

20:33

I mean - it is Windows 10 so... it might break itself but shhhh

stellar

apparently it's due to having a high mouse polling rate

still happens

20:43

I think it's to do with my video drivers

20:44

time to reinstall them

20:45

that should probably fix it

freedom be like: windows 10 detected, lets switch our discussion to windows vista, cuz vista best 10 shit (edited)

Yes

20:51

is there anything wrong with that?

anyone can use any operating system and not when some person says it

vista good 10 bad

20:53

can we move on?

vista bad 10 bad xp good dogesmug

dogesmug

nagatorogun

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

freedom be like: windows 10 detected, lets switch our discussion to windows vista, cuz vista best 10 shit (edited)

vista!!!!!

yes

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

anyone can use any operating system and not when some person says it

oh my god how dare you use an OS which works for you

21:23

smh

21:24

you use windows 10 to get the best gaming performance?

21:24

how dare you

stellar

that should probably fix it

it didn't

troll

21:47

i even got an older driver version

21:47

the latest windows 11 update must've just fucked driver compatibility

use windows vista

21:48

best gaming performance guaranteed

what's your fs2020 fps in vista?

i don't have a vista compatible pc lol

then why are you talking about it

21:49

hmm

why not

well, not in here

21:50

#windows-vista

vista is a universal discussion

21:50

not bound to any channel, date, time, location, or role

yall are gonna make me hate vista like its 2007 fr

you came to the wrong place mate

21:51

like vista, stay

21:51

hate it, perish

Deleted User

best gaming performance guaranteed

even then some games doesnt support vista -_-

"some"

21:55

anyway since windows 11 is technically vista under the hood you cant really talk shit about it now, can you?

troll

2

21:55

smugg

Deleted User

use windows vista

ah yes

23:09

no graphics drivers

23:09

switching to vista rn (edited)

arialgirl

anyway since windows 11 is technically vista under the hood you cant really talk shit about it now, can you?

windows 11 is windows 10 under the hood, sorry!

00:07

nt 10.0 not 6.x

00:07

troll

Literally a change of a number

00:12

I could do that to vista too

00:13

Anyway, I don’t have to keep fixing software that doesn’t work on my os, so carry on

00:13

Sticker

Deleted User

you came to the wrong place mate

No u

04:37

#windows-vista

arialgirl

anyway since windows 11 is technically vista under the hood you cant really talk shit about it now, can you?

if w11 is vista then vista is on topic here troll

troll

arialgirl

anyway since windows 11 is technically vista under the hood you cant really talk shit about it now, can you?

Sure, microsoft likes to stretch the meaning of "based on" but that's a stretch.

It was supposed to be as serious as his comments are @MassClaw

10:10

Either way my previous point stands. I don’t have to put in extra work to make sure my os supports everything I do.

Not really, with the update model being the same as 10, you will see it break when updating, breaking can vary in type and severity but the most ridiculous it will get to is a bsod loop and that's saying something.

It was supposed to be as serious as his comments are

Oh sure enough then. (edited)

MassClaw

Not really, with the update model being the same as 10, you will see it break when updating, breaking can vary in type and severity but the most ridiculous it will get to is a bsod loop and that's saying something.

It was supposed to be as serious as his comments are

Oh sure enough then. (edited)

That’s why you have pro or better so you can defer updates. Either way I’ve rarely had an issue with 10 or 11 just breaking. Usually it’s some shitty driver that causes it in the couple times that’s happened.

15:02

Meanwhile I try something like vista, apart from critical hw and sw no longer being supported, I have to rely on hacks and mods which could compromise stability of the os (and often do in my personal experience). Something like win7 is still feasible but I can’t really justify using it as a daily driver anymore. My setup continues to work just fine.

15:03

Of course this depends user to user

when windows photo viewer tries to open file explorer

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15:48

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windows 10 after an update be like

with how bad windows 11 is (edited)

22:03

im starting to like windows 10 lmao

22:03

now thats somthig i never thought i would say

arialgirl

That’s why you have pro or better so you can defer updates. Either way I’ve rarely had an issue with 10 or 11 just breaking. Usually it’s some shitty driver that causes it in the couple times that’s happened.

Well, then you probably are fine with 11, unfortunately in other cases, things aren't so bright; updates failing to install, key components of the OS break and forced updates when a said edition expires are some of the stuff you will encounter using it. (edited)

dont forget the ms account requirement for home versions :p

Drips

dont forget the ms account requirement for home versions :p

they certainly almost done it with 10 1809's oobe

23:40

check this article from pcworld https://www.pcworld.com/article/3409788/how-microsoft-made-it-harder-to-create-windows-10-local-accounts.html

How Microsoft made it harder to create Windows 10 local accounts

If you’re thinking about resetting your Windows PC with a local account, consider upgrading to the Windows 10 May 2019 Update first.

https://www.easeus.com/todo-backup-resource/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-automatically-update.html @MassClaw look at solution 4, I think that would actually be a good solution for stopping updates. This article also mentions that the WindowsUpdate service will re-enable itself after disabling it for some time.

How to Disable Windows 10 Update in Every Way - EaseUS

One of Windows 10's least-liked features is its tendency to automatically installing an update every time you try to shut down your computer or laptop. How to can I disable Windows 10 update? You are in the right place! Just read this post to know how to stop and turn off Windows 10 update in every possible way.

08:39

There are two services for windows update though, I wonder if disabling the 2nd one will prevent it from reenabling itself.

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Did the last one, although not the first one so will try that out; thanks for the suggestion.

wait, solution 4 was the one you did? (edited)

Meant the services.

ohhh, and np

08:46

if it doesn't work, that registry addition from solution 4 seems like a solution that would work well. (edited)

Hopefully it will stop that nonsense, though accepting a restart prompt from first/third party will still update regardless.

i thought it would ask a Yes or No kind of prompt, it's actually just an OK type of message?

It was more like you described, doesn't make it any less malicious.

This article also mentions that the WindowsUpdate service will re-enable itself after disabling it for some time.

Forgot to clarify that this was for solution 1 i believe, and that that solution was just like what you told me, that it would reenable itseld

08:58

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uhh about LTSC 2019, shame we can't download it because of this

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updating the link

updated ty @offline/inactive

Np

15:40

Wait

15:41

What's the difference between 10.0.17763.1 and 17763.316

316 is the release that does not nuke personal data when upgraded

Huh

ImSwordQueen

updated ty @offline/inactive

Update: some of the sites in LTSC 2019 do not work like bayfiles, mirrorace and others

15:52

I think a lot of them do not work but I'll check the 63.1

15:54

Okay, all of them do not work expect the digiboy.tr site

15:55

Which is the 63.1 version btw

https://isofiles.bd581e55.workers.dev/Windows%2010/Windows%2010%20Enterprise%20LTSC%202019/17763.316%20-%20February%202019/

/Windows 10/Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019/17763.316 - February 20...

MVS Collection

Oh okay, thanks

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5005033 New update has been released for Windows 10 versions 2004, 20H2 and 21H1

19:05

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19:05

Look at those sizes

kek

what the hell

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19:40

Downloaded that update, now installing it

19:40

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Shroomer78

This article also mentions that the WindowsUpdate service will re-enable itself after disabling it for some time.

Forgot to clarify that this was for solution 1 i believe, and that that solution was just like what you told me, that it would reenable itseld

Yes i am aware.

switched back to windows 10 because windows 11 loved lagging sometimes

16:57

windows 11 is a "little buggy"

16:57

windows 10 is too

16:57

but still

16:57

troll

16:58

also i didn't have to activate windows 10

16:59

upgrading to windows 11 gave me a free windows 10 license

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1425459131885015043 (edited)

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

want the classic Start menu in Windows 11, or a different modern design? Start11 is a new app that adds a lot of customization to the Windows 11 Start menu. Details here: https://t.co/Ncb9J8XwwF

Likes

355

18:09

Stardock at it again

meeh

18:11

not sure

18:11

looks a bit inconsistent

Ehh it's a beta

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Tell em to go fuck emself

or just ignore

18:15

and move on with your life

No

18:15

Do what I said

I'm trying to be rational

XP POS

Yeah no.. it ain't perfect, yes, but it ain't a POS either

These individuals mildly annoy me

Deleted User

I'm trying to be rational

Don't overdo bro

18:15

Sometimes people need to be shouted at into their faces (edited)

so i guess i should define what is good or what is bad based on how new the thing is and ignore literally every other aspect (edited)

Betajyst4094

Don't overdo bro

That's not overdoing

Not feeling like getting into a flame war rn

Me neither

Me neither

i hope startisback will make something similar

20:31

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/bnpFzXh3TbvdEohnomyf5dfzh1fUaoF-F5SCxd0ZtHQ/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/E8g9BTAWEAMK-fN.png%3Alarge?width=946&height=629 this one looks hot tho

Embedded image

20:31

way better than 11's start menu

Is Start11 out?

Yes, as a beta

02:09

That costs money

ImSwordQueen

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/bnpFzXh3TbvdEohnomyf5dfzh1fUaoF-F5SCxd0ZtHQ/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/E8g9BTAWEAMK-fN.png%3Alarge?width=946&height=629 this one looks hot tho

that thing encompasses half the alpha quadrant, but it looks better than stock ig

Stock would waste the same space i think

yeah i suppose

I cant try because stardock and paid

stardock

16:32

fix me musket

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/12/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-132/ A new version of Windows 11 has been released.

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.132

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.132 to everyone in the Dev and Beta Channels! Changes and Improvements

the fabled revios 1709 u4.0 (is not available on revi.cc, only s1.0, and latest 1709 release the folks at revision made) https://archive.org/details/revi-os-1709-u-4.0-x-64

Revi OS 1709 U 4.0 X 64 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : In...

ReviOSrevi-os-1709-u-4.0-x-64

17:36

windows update is fully disabled here

as 1709 U4.0 came after 1709 S1.0 (edited)

i have a compatible pc for 11

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18:23

if tpm isn't necessary

18:23

i can change it to uefi in any time same with secure boot

does someone know how to bypass the upgrade requirement?

lodocus

to bypass "this pc cant run 11" bs just burn a windows 10 iso to usb and then replace the install.wim with the windows 11s one (edited)

do this

ty

i love windows setup that recognizes the language of the install.wim somehow and make me redownload an another 11 iso. fun

09:36

here we go again.

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Updating 11 because it didnt slipstream 132..

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is that mod usable with 2gb ram

yes

i cant search in this, thanks windows 10- i mean revios 21h1 1.0

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14:13

like im typing and no letters show up

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14:14

also on revios 21h1

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Works for me as well trollage

trollage

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

i cant search in this, thanks windows 10- i mean revios 21h1 1.0

same with the settings app

15:14

i also cant see stuff in the settings app's search bar even when i type (edited)

15:14

"find a setting" more like useless search bar that doesnt search

15:15

@Vruh 2 @Deleted User does the stuff show up when you open the settings app and search for something

15:15

cuz i certainly cant

15:16

this thing

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15:19

let me try troubleshooting this as suggested by this article from ms docs https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/shell-experience/fix-problems-in-windows-search

Fix problems in Windows Search - Windows Client

Provides troubleshooting option for problems that affect the search results in the Windows Search feature in Windows 10.

15:19

nope didnt work the search box or the search bar in the settings app still doesnt show text when i type (edited)

15:22

maybe its just me

Again, works fine

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guess my search is borked ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

search service disabled?

nope

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i installed start10 in place of the start menu and search (cracked ofc) (edited)

15:42

i still cannot search in settings tho (edited)

Not even restarting works?

yea

https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/08/15/microsoft-promises-windows-11-revamp-for-more-inbox-apps/

Microsoft promises Windows 11 revamp for more apps

Windows 11 is coming later this year with significant design improvements. According to Microsoft, Windows 11 has been designed to look a bit less noisy than its predecessor, thanks to the implementation of subtle rounded corners, Mica themes, and more consistent Fluent Design elements. Windows 11 is now available for testers in the Dev and …

22:46

If they really go with this, I guess they're finally... finalising the UI

they'll probably change it again

23:10

remember they said windows 10 was going to be the final version of windows

23:10

2003

Deleted User

https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/08/15/microsoft-promises-windows-11-revamp-for-more-inbox-apps/

i love how they call it "fluent design" when its actually quite unintuitive, especially in the file explorer

Deleted User

https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/08/15/microsoft-promises-windows-11-revamp-for-more-inbox-apps/

windows 11 lower reqirements when

Never

07:15

I mean they even updated appraiseres to well, bitch about CPU gen

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16:55

This is Windows 10 with the Win8 theme from WindowBlinds

17:02

Doesn't look too bad

17:04

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17:08

An XP skin from 2003

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17:14

Aero Ultimate by fediaFedia

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17:14

...when combined with Start10

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Deleted User

Aero Ultimate by fediaFedia

try oldnewexplorer

I'll try it

i use oldnewexplorer on 10 with an xp windowblinds theme for my main pc

I use OldNewExplorer, but it seems WB works better without it

17:41

for some skins

odd

17:41

ive allways found the reverse

17:41

that it seems to work better

I've seen it look with OldNewExplorer like a mess

Deleted User

Aero Ultimate by fediaFedia

and this is betteraero7x

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18:29

and oh cool more of the buggy titlebar, thanks windowblinds!

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to be honest this looks terrible for me

18:39

you can tell that its xp looking but not that great

18:39

look at the skin below that one

18:40

the one below is from 2003

if i skin my ms edge by putting --disable-windows10-custom-titlebar, these buttons will be obscured (edited)

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18:42

thanks windowblinds (edited)

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18:53

Microsoft decided to troll everyone about the Start menu

18:53

from their blog post

Hm?

Look at that image

19:04

I'm trying to get the meaning of the heart and stuff

19:04

but I find it a troll

Huh, not seeing any entries related to this in their blog.

I'm searching for it too

19:10

I found this exact image on the r/Windows11 subreddit I think

19:11

Did the "OP" trick me now?

Could be, or they immediately deleted it.

Also, there is a .132 build, right?

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19:14

Oh wait, the announcement NOW appeared

19:15

There it is.

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19:15

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/12/first-set-of-windows-app-updates-rolling-out-to-windows-insiders-for-windows-11/

First set of Windows app updates rolling out to Windows Insiders fo...

Hello Windows Insiders! Today we are rolling out the first set of updates for several apps that come included as part of Windows 11. The following app updates are rolling out to Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel at first. Snipping Tool

Ah, what about it that's trolling though?

Maybe they're saying you should love the new Start menu?

19:18

or that it can fit a big heart?

They just drew a big heart on it.

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i guess the start menu is better than the one in windows 10

19:30

in windows 10 you cant pin things in the list

19:31

i dont want those thing in the tiles

Are you serious

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21:35

Look at the preview

explorer crashed on me out of nowhere just moments ago

21:56

thanks 7zip

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just got Start11

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Looks nice

14:46

did you buy it?

Much better.

In comparison to Start10:

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Basically the same thing. Without the stupid background drop of course. (edited)

I like the background I put on Start10

Ah my bad not your background.

14:53

The app icon droplet.

14:54

The thing that surrounds most app icons, what they call it, flat/"fluent" icons? (edited)

Ximonite

just got Start11

damn. rounded corners. i'm sold

Waiting for cracc be lik- oh wait i won't be able to run the damn shitty os due to CPU gen requirements

fuck i hoped i would've skipped this

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uhm

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Deleted User

did you buy it?

ye I did

16:56

it's $5

what if

16:58

the idea of 11 was even before 10 fall creators released

it looks alright.

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Looks better than Windows 11's rubbish!

21:34

A lot better!

Deleted User

Looks better than Windows 11's rubbish!

Definitely, yes.

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21:40

This is ridiculous

l

21:42

m

21:42

a

21:42

o

Deleted User

This is ridiculous

10 basically, yet again proving it's shit.

Exactly

LOGIN INTO ONEDRIVE DO IT DO IT

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08:28

just to note that ltsb iso on this server does not seem to work for me

08:28

http://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/Windows%2010/en_windows_10_enterprise_2016_ltsb_x64_dvd_9059483.iso

08:28

this one to be exact

08:31

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09:13

09:13

an 103GB update XD

windows 10 just works like trash with updates

09:21

thats why i keep it mostly stock

09:21

That got displayed through the WUMT

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09:22

yeah but still

09:22

updates itself are trash

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13:22

Went from ReviOS to regular Windows 10 LTSC

13:23

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ltsb 2016 is better

13:38

but oh well

1809 is based has well

13:39

(it can use the store so there's that too)

none of windows 10 versions are based (edited)

you said that windows 10 is based???

no

13:41

i said that none are based

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I like 1809's search UI more than the current UI

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i have to say this: 1507 search ui was better

14:35

wasn't as wide

1809's search is alright

14:36

better than the current one

Deleted User

LOGIN INTO ONEDRIVE DO IT DO IT

toycat

14:58

skypeSunglasses

Remember this product alert?

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First time in my life seeing

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The only things I changed

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is it just me or does the task manager icon constantly disappear and reappear (edited)

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08:15

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08:18

i think its the substyle's at fault again

08:18

just like the chopped start button in small taskbar mode

08:18

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08:20

not as chopped as the aerovista7x substyle

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11:03

It's been out for some time

11:04

I was thinking "Maybe it was a Beta"

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11:04

and I'm right

11:05

CursorFX requirements:

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DeskScapes requirements:

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11:09

i use stardock start10

11:10

I reverted back to OpenShell

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11:10

as Start10 wasn't keeping my frequent programs for some reason

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11:11

i use start10 because search in windows 10 does not work after i disabled something in winaero tweaker

11:11

but i dont care

11:11

bcse windows search in windows 10 uses some resources

11:12

The Midnight skin fits more for the dark taskbar

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11:15

if stardock made something good...

11:16

they made windowblinds

11:16

yes thats great

11:16

but if they just made it good

11:16

i mean no broken things

11:16

I will try WindowBlinds on 1809

11:16

i am fine with windows 10 theme

11:16

but ill try wb anyway

11:17

I am too

11:17

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11:17

Do not try to run WindowBlinds 8 on Windows 10

11:17

because it will break Explorer

11:17

I had to go into Safe Mode to get rid of WB8 (edited)

11:17

oof

11:18

safe mode in windows 10

11:18

It even warns you multiple times NOT TO INSTALL WB8 on Windows 10

11:18

im using windowbinds 10.74

11:18

That's the latest version I think

11:19

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11:20

rounded edges like this would fit nicely in windows 11

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11:20

i think microsoft made them too rounded in windows 11

11:21

Yeah

11:21

I agree

11:21

Also,

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11:21

NOTE: I am using OldNewExplorer

11:21

I forgot about something - You need Start10 for the best Start menu look

11:22

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11:23

Looks alright actually

11:23

uhhh

11:23

the patch says that its in use but i dont see it in task manager

11:23

I just started the free trial

11:24

ok

11:24

Of course UWP apps are not affected by WB

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11:24

This is alright

11:24

(Precision theme)

11:24

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11:24

White text on a gray background doesn't go well

11:25

why german

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11:25

maybe bcse i set the german keyboard

11:25

Yup

11:25

Same happens for me, but in Serbian

11:26

I like how Stardock made the knockoff Vista theme

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11:26

I like it more than the final Vista theme

Deleted User

Same happens for me, but in Serbian

there is vmware tools in serbian????

11:27

I'm talking for general programs

11:27

ah

11:27

Serbian VMware Tools didn't happen for me

11:27

ahhh

11:27

Another alright skin

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11:28

Firefox on Win10 doesn't fit in with WB

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11:34

A Vista Beta theme from October 2005

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11:34

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11:43

Scrapped WB, tried Aero Glass for Win8.1+ from glass8.eu

11:43

didn't go too well (edited)

11:47

It might not be working because I am the Administrator account

Deleted User

That's the latest version I think

nah 10.89 is

Deleted User

Of course UWP apps are not affected by WB

they're supposed to be

19:29

the title bars at least

19:29

if you have the latest version

Michael

the title bars at least

Only that

Michael

they're supposed to be

then how come the betteraero7x theme affects uwp apps?

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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

then how come the betteraero7x theme affects uwp apps?

i said they're supposed to be affected

20:28

in his screenshot they werent

oh

20:28

i have the 10.89 version so it affects uwp apps

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22:27

when bedrock was still called 10 edition

Because it's probably 10's edition at the end of the day.

i remember getting windows 10 edition for free

ImSwordQueen

when bedrock was still called 10 edition

what about when bedrock was still called pocket edition

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10:34

@Scamdisk how do i fix this?

10:34

sorry for ping

10:35

this is windows 10 ltsb 2016

10:36

ah come on

10:36

i need nlite

Updates fully- ah it's ltsc 2016? Then you have to sneak it in somehow. (edited)

if there is just a way to bypass this windows features thing

Yes there is

11:04

Just be sure to have the USB you installed from or something inserted

11:05

Dism /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFx3 /All /Source:CD Rom Letter:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess

i will try

11:10

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11:12

thank you scamdisk

11:12

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the new paint isn't that bad

16:28

a redesign was needed

HOLY SHIT NEW APP UPDATE (edited)

Deleted User

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Oh my!

16:39

New Paint will be fun in Windows 11

It's just Paint

but it's classic paint

Nothing about it is really classic though, design's new.

Deleted User

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eh

19:29

whatever (edited)

19:30

i will still use paint.net for more advanced things

19:30

it works with windows 10 1607 which i have (edited)

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damn we will never have a design update for Windows 10 which Windows 11 design is backported to 10

why would we have that

09:22

it would invalidate the point of windows 11

Deleted User

damn we will never have a design update for Windows 10 which Windows 11 design is backported to 10

Yeah, 11 is just 10 and that won't help the former's success at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbIvIS1kl3I

Windows 11 - Is it nice?

I got that video in my recommended

07:52

didn't watch it

lodocus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbIvIS1kl3I

Oh boy, it's looking good. Search is still breaking even there?

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

GitHub - massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts: A collection of s...

A collection of scripts for activating Microsoft products using HWID / KMS38 / Online KMS activation methods with a focus on open-source code, less antivirus detection and user-friendliness. - GitH...

got a bsod lol

14:32

went too fast to see what it was about

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14:48

old shell

tfGlad

no way

this one is bombed too

14:52

so if we get a dump we will see differences for sure

ah yes, of course

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shouldnt it be "This device isn't compatible with Windows 10" instead of "This device isn't compatible in Windows 10" ?

22:01

it just sounds weird

22:01

also wtf how is GTX 1070 not compatible with windows 10 lmao

It's new afaik how is it even incompatible with the latest system

WinDVD

shouldnt it be "This device isn't compatible with Windows 10" instead of "This device isn't compatible in Windows 10" ?

Too much H1b-ing. Yahoo! had the same problem. It would tell me to "Sign in to reply the answers".

offline/inactive

It's new afaik how is it even incompatible with the latest system

yea it was released after windows 10 (edited)

WinDVD

also wtf how is GTX 1070 not compatible with windows 10 lmao

probably the driver

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15:28

i hope these images are real.. (edited)

15:28

dark mode taskmgr looks hot

this channel is making windows defender go wild

ImSwordQueen

i hope these images are real.. (edited)

Looks like a custom theme

18:50

I’ve used one like it

Trying to run Windows 10 on VMware Workstation 9.0.4

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19:31

running with Windows 8 x64 mode

19:32

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19:33

Still not loading...

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19:46

Nope!

19:47

15 minutes have passed

weird

21:10

i got windows 10 and 11 running on workstation 10

21:11

idk about 9 tho

found a windows 11 bug tfGlad

tfGlad

Ximonite

found a windows 11 bug tfGlad

tfGlad

you found the entire OS?

bruh i'm going to tell once I can replicate it

08:09

so I know exactly what makes it happen

08:13

opening the prefetch folder of another windows installation on another drive and cancelling the permission dialog crashes explorer if files are being copied (edited)

Ximonite

opening the prefetch folder of another windows installation on another drive and cancelling the permission dialog crashes explorer if files are being copied (edited)

well also spamming win + e to open tons of windows then spamming alt tab and alt f4 crashes explorer as well

yea but you're not going to do that unless you're trying to make explorer crash

windows 7: enter a file name, you can't leave that blank! windows 10: oh yeah?

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revios 1709 s1.0 on vmware 16

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Not bad.

windows 10: oh yeah?

Yes, but there are some limits that are still present.

found a windows 11 bug

It only was about time, aside from that randomly breaking search functionality.

its a S, its an U, no its...

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12:43

1709 S1.0 has windows update fully disabled, 20H2 S1.0 and 21H1 1.0 has it fully manual

12:44

(talking about revios of all things)

So I don't know where to post this so if it's wrong I apologize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt1v2C_NnLw

Dualbooting Windows 98 and Windows 11

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judging by that internet icon, i think u installed 21H1 1.0

14:45

@Deleted User

Yes

14:46

that's the old ISO I used

14:46

when I mained ReviOS

I'm considering on getting ReviOS but, my disk is MBR and I might need to convert it to GPT for it to work

you can get it to install on MBR, its just how windows installs work

cup what pc do you have

16:02

or at least

?

a photo of it

you mean the specs?

like this

16:03

a photograph of the actual pc itself

16:03

taken on a camera

16:03

any

16:03

the tower

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

you can get it to install on MBR, its just how windows installs work

When I do that, it shows the windows logo and then restarts

16:03

It doesn't work

good

No

16:05

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16:05

So I'm wondering if doing the disk into GPT works

Get Win10 LTSC 2019 or LTSB 2016

16:07

Stock Win10 with no bloatware

What about recipes?

16:07

Wait

16:07

ReviOS

Recipes?

16:07

XD

Sorry keyboard

16:07

Typ

16:07

O

Okay, okay

a

i'm installin' revios 20H2 s1.0

16:09

hope the borked search never happens here

So I have an idea

16:20

Since I have a copy of Win 8, and later ReviOS (with Ventoy), I'm gonna use it to convert the disk into GPT, and then install ReviOS

16:21

What do you think?

offline/inactive

So I don't know where to post this so if it's wrong I apologize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt1v2C_NnLw

im smarter than him lol

16:37

wait a sec

what

wait a sec

16:38

need to find it

Alright

16:38

Just gonna go ahead and download version 21H1 1.0

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16:39

@offline/inactive

lol

i would shw it now but...

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I hate this

16:40

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lol

im now in revi 20H2 S1.0

Cool

16:46

What version should I get of ReviOS

16:46

?

What suits your situation best.

16:47

And what do you want out of it more.

do you not want windows update? go with 1709 S1.0

Wait Windows Update is not in 1709?

in Revi 1709 S1.0, the Windows Update is fully disabled

16:48

revision made it manual on 20H2 S1.0

16:48

and carried it over to 21H1 1.0 (edited)

offline/inactive

Wait Windows Update is not in 1709?

It crossed* it's EOL date. (edited)

Okay, I guess i'll choose 21H1

16:49

I'm not entirely sure

It depends on how you roll on one, try any of them at first and see what you like best.

i hope it eventually doesnt bork my search on the search app, settings app and the microsoft store

i just use windows 10 ltsb 2016 and mod it tbh

16:53

by mod it i mean disable everything

16:53

like windows update and defender

16:53

and telemetry

is Store disabled in 1709?

i dont care

16:54

i dont use ms store

is Store disabled in 1709?

@offline/inactive no

Huh

16:55

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16:55

1709

16:55

Damn it

Copy it to your drive

16:56

Then you can download it

try the nextcloud link, but it has the tendency to end the download early (edited)

I used nextcloud

as i encountered when i tried to download the revi 1709 s1.0 from nextcloud on my debian 11 install (edited)

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16:58

Weird, it's 3GB in drive

rounding

https://www.theverge.com/22644194/microsoft-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-processors-changes

Microsoft won’t stop you from installing Windows 11 on older PCs

You can install Windows 11 manually on unsupported PCs.

17:03

This is good news i guess

They can't stop it, they can only twist the path for it and make it abit harder than the last but almost always not impossible. So they shouldn't even bother. (edited)

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Damned drive.

IDM sort of didn't work with this download

17:29

So I'm downloading it with Chrome

Scamdisk

https://www.theverge.com/22644194/microsoft-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-processors-changes

expected

17:30

it was the same company who said that oems get a special version of 11 without the tpm requirement

i just use windows 10 ltsb 2016 and mod it tbh

@Deleted User note: you wont get the status of individual updates on windows update in 1607 (edited)

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17:33

you know, "status: downloading" and "status: installing" and such

What the fuck

17:35

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17:35

It did download but look atthis

yea it has a tendency to end it early @offline/inactive

Fuck

17:36

I'm just gonna download the 21H1 version

17:39

Oh wait

17:39

I have a problem

17:40

About Ventoy

17:40

It tells me this

17:41

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17:41

It tells me GPT or MBR

17:41

I don't know what to do to make it GPT and such

17:41

I need help here

You will need to delete all partitions from your HDD/SSD first

17:43

then you will be able to convert the disk to 100% GPT

17:43

through diskmgmt.msc

My only disk

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Yeah, it will need to have no volumes/partitions

17:44

so it can be converted

17:45

(Disk 0 is what I'm referring to)

It doesn't show me the delete part

Because you're using the HDD right now

17:46

You'll need to wipe the whole OS you're using right now

17:46

so you can do it

how lol

You prepare a WinPE USB first

17:46

(HirensBootCD PE works well)

17:47

you back up your data somewhere

17:47

when you're ready, boot into the USB, wipe all partitions and then you can convert

And I have a 8gb sd card to put into my USB (which is the one I'll be using to put windows 10) and a 2gb SD card

17:49

well i'm doomed

I don't think switching to ReviOS will fix much though

wdym?

It won't improve your PC much

17:52

Windows 10 in general doesn't improve stuff

Hm

17:56

Alright, I found a PE ISO

17:56

which is 32 bit

17:56

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17:57

updated windows 10 20H2

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18:45

I hate myself

18:45

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19:50

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19:51

Should I get LTSC or what

If you really want, get LTSC 2019 or LTSB 2016

https://isofiles.bd581e55.workers.dev/Windows%2010/Windows%2010%20Enterprise%20LTSC%202019/17763.316%20-%20February%202019/ this?

/Windows 10/Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019/17763.316 - February 20...

MVS Collection

Try and get it from archive.org

Why not this link

It seems fishy

20:00

Actually, it might not be fishy

20:00

I think it's safe now

I'm trying this again

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Deleted User

I think it's safe now

Yeah I should check before doing so

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20:37

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20:39

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20:43

And done

20:45

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20:45

Is it okay if I can download ReviOS with Legacy mode?

20:45

Or I should change to UEFI

Try it with Legacy mode

20:46

use Rufus to put the ReviOS ISO on a USB

Okay hold on

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21:03

Welp

And it's now done

offline/inactive

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Secure boot is useless

1

Hm?

21:27

Oh yeah

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22:25

It's still on that windows logo

22:25

Nothing else

22:28

Now I might go back and use that pe iso on my secondary and card

22:28

SD I mean

22:30

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22:30

Now I found this, does that enable UEFI or something

what happen to that screen

i don't know

offline/inactive

Now I found this, does that enable UEFI or something

Nope, you have a button to switch to UEFI on the keyboard.

what

that is if your motherboard is dualing BIOS and UEFI.

22:35

But if it doesn't support UEFI, well, rip. Also you are in the BIOS. (edited)

ReviOS won't work

22:35

Fuck

22:36

If Legacy

Yeah it's legacy bios.

Any way how to switch to UEFI?

Track down what's the motherboard is and what it's using. (edited)

How do I know the motherboard i'm using lol

Uh, is this a prebuilt?

idk

One sec.

22:39

You can't go into any other OS?

I can

Which?

As in dualboot

22:39

ing

XP? 7?

7 yes, but XP idk

Install 7 to inspect your machine.

I have 8 64 bit

22:40

lol

Oh it's already installed? Great.

ye

One sec then.

Now let me get my secondary SD card to put the PE ISO on it

Here, this one should list it clearly: http://rh-software.com/ (edited)

Uhh what should I use

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the exe

There's a lot of theme bruh

22:47

them

if trump had won the election this wouldn't have had happened..

SIV64x.exe is the one to use in this instance. (edited)

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ASUS p5k..

22:50

Funky looking.

?

The board itself, is it this? https://driverscollection.com/statics/images/Hardware_/20/4/53639/P5K_Deluxe_WiFi-AP.jpg

Embedded image

funky1 /ˈfʌŋki/ Learn to pronounce adjectiveinformal adjective: funky; comparative adjective: funkier; superlative adjective: funkiest 1. (of music) having or using a strong dance rhythm, in particular that of funk. "some excellent funky beats"

MassClaw

The board itself, is it this? https://driverscollection.com/statics/images/Hardware_/20/4/53639/P5K_Deluxe_WiFi-AP.jpg

Ehh idk

22:51

I guess so

There should be a more detailed menu but one sec let me download it and explore where it was.

22:51

Oh wait i'm retarded, it's the machine button right in the bottom row.

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22:52

I got it from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obcYwsf4-9s

How to download winpe x86 or x64 iso file

Oh lord, that's not looking good.

22:53

No it's not infected by a virus, it's just not that reliable of a source.

huh

22:53

I also found this http://windowsmatters.com/2013/04/30/windows-8-based-pe-boot-disk-with-explorer-shell-and-all-my-favorite-apps/

22:53

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Yeah but that's only in 2013 standards.

wdym

The iso is not as new as you think, but that might not pose a problem to you.

I mean the link that says ''available here'' doesn't work

22:56

Now I don't know what to do at this point

One sec.

Uh, are you here?

no

offline/inactive

Uh, are you here?

Yes. kind of.

23:33

But didn't found much, mostly because i'm not sure what you are looking for exactly.

a PE or a RE ISO (edited)

RevISO?

23:33

Wait no.

23:34

Forgot RE existed for a sec, my bad.

nevermind i found one I think

23:34

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6LCd8U12mPh58q7j3ka1lHNU5NneCUU/view

Sure enough i suppose, from where?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kZuUDl7pLA

ValiumMedia Tech

How to Create a Bootable USB in Android Mobile to Repair or Install...

Oh boy, yeah i have a problem trusting those.

before clicking

23:35

bet he is indian

MassClaw

Oh boy, yeah i have a problem trusting those.

?

fuck I was wrong

It's not the fact that he's indian that breaks this, it's the thumbnail design. Also it's a text to speech.

and the channel name

23:36

never trust channel with tech in the name

23:36

except for ltt

Again that's a bit loose, it's a series of mistakes that gives those away.

Huh

23:39

welp

It's fine man, the guide doesn't look that sketchy from what i can tell. (edited)

Huh

23:41

I'll try it out

Now I'm gonna use ISO2USB

23:50

Wait

23:50

Rufus

23:54

Image attachment

23:54

Well fuck me

Also I used rufus

benis

offline/inactive

Well fuck me

no

lol

Uh any help here, I actually need an RE iso or something

no, you need a windows 8.1 iso

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

00:39

I mean, how when my disk is MBR

00:39

I need to convert it to GPT but I can't

00:40

That's why I'm asking for help

Yeah i found nothing as of yet because i haven't actually tried both of them, let alone know a source to get them from.

Maybe MadEvening can help

00:42

@Deleted User

@offline/inactive is your pc uefi or bios

BIOS

you cannot boot from gpt

Oof

01:06

But how do I know if my PC supports UEFI

what's the motherboard

MassClaw

The board itself, is it this? https://driverscollection.com/statics/images/Hardware_/20/4/53639/P5K_Deluxe_WiFi-AP.jpg

This sort of

01:07

Idk

yeah if you have pci slots your mobo is probably too old to be uefi

01:08

unless it's like

01:08

a specific kne ig

Huh

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

yeah if you have pci slots your mobo is probably too old to be uefi

wrong

01:19

there are ryzen motherboards with pci

01:19

legacy pci

real

Uhhh Idk what to do I should probably just give up or something

yeah

01:27

why do you need gpt so badly

gpt more like gay piss trash

daniel more like SHUT FUCK UP do not care -FREEDOMB

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

daniel more like SHUT FUCK UP do not care -FREEDOMB

are you gay?

no? esp if you're the guy asking

I mean you got defensive after I called GPT gay (edited)

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

why do you need gpt so badly

Because MBR doesn't work with ReviOS which I downloaded it

oh my fucking god

01:31

just use windows 8.1

01:32

if you use revios you're a megavirgin

thanks

01:32

You too

blurtroll

yes no sex until marriage troll

troll

saudi arabia moment

DID NOT ASK

FREEDOM

ayyyyy

02:50

ms says that windows 11 wont have the insane minimum requirements for clean installs

What do you mean? Like if you buy a licence those requirements are magically gone?

pasting a link in 1 sec

02:51

https://youtu.be/1w3biMwl9m4?t=462

Linus Tech Tips

YOU CAN INSTALL WINDOWS 11!! - WAN Show August 27, 2021

02:51

it starts at the correct moment

02:51

since its like an hour wrong

02:52

so no tpm 2.0 for clean installs

Oh, so basically, fuck you if you upgrade, but if you buy a licence, you are allowed to pass.

well no

02:52

cause u can just enter the windows 10 key

02:52

XD

02:52

by upgrade they mean

02:52

keeping your files

02:52

etc

Oh wait.

02:53

So they basically dropped the whole thing entirely. (edited)

yes but just not for people doing upgrades

Guess that's expected.

02:53

But nice, very nice.

02:53

In any case, you still have the plethora of issues in 11 that frustrates the average 10 user.

hey imo its still worse than 10

02:54

but atleast you don't need a tpm 2.0 now

02:54

so thats nice

Yeah, the "old" right-click menu being hidden behind a button is very baffling and will build up.

02:57

You no longer can de-group different windows of the same program, it takes more space as a whole and no tablet mode to mitigate this issue for desktop use and so much more issues that were in 10 that found their way into 11.

@MassClaw what pisses me off most is

02:58

they removed small icons and never combine

02:58

from the taskbar

02:58

(this layout)

02:58

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Drips

they removed small icons and never combine

Yeah, mentioned never combine but small icons is a thing that ticked me off also.

o didnt see that

02:59

the new settings menu looks so much better tho

It's just shitty really.

A dumber OS for the average PC user that’s continually getting dumber (edited)

offline/inactive

So I don't know where to post this so if it's wrong I apologize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt1v2C_NnLw

already did that lmao

06:11

https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/854415984525443152/854742094312505404

Marda33

A dumber OS for the average PC user that’s continually getting dumber (edited)

hey its still better than linux

Linux is for enthusiasts

Either way the interface design of the past is gone and now everything’s either macOS or padded to hell and back for nonexistent touchscreens

17:11

There’s no favorable new option

I still think this current UI design is a phase

its gonna be another winfows 8

They still have other options...

Image attachment

17:12

they could build upon Vista and 7

17:12

in terms of design

At least 8 had the modern and classic interfaces completely separated

Ya

10 blended them together and managed to look good

17:12

11 ruined the classic interface

what rhey should do is

I disagree highly

17:12

Windows 10 looks bland

use the titlebar thats on file explorer

Windows 10 just looks depressing

on everything

I’d still take Vista any day but the way 10 is currently is fine

I took Windows 7

11’s just fucked beyond design

17:13

Forcing rounded corners on every app regardless of the window system they use? What kind of mentality is this

Windows Vista did that

17:14

and Windows XP

17:14

Rounded elements were introduced (for window borders) in Windows XP

17:14

They were removed in Windows 8

17:14

stayed removed in Windows 10

…forcing and introducing aren’t the same thing

What forcing are you referring to?

Marda33

10 blended them together and managed to look good

10 looks shit lol

I’ve seen in the newest LTT video about 11 that Steam’s windows are also rounded

17:16

I’d check with WACUP on 11 myself but I deleted the VM

Deleted User

10 looks shit lol

Still better than the usability nightmare that is 11

17:18

At least the classic interface is just flat and doesn’t look like a shitty DeviantArt theme

One thing the Windows 11 UI lacks - life

17:18

It almost looks as depressing as Windows 10

well there's a little less flat at least

17:19

but still

Windows 11 just isn't appealing

Image attachment

17:19

compared to say, Windows 7

7 betas looked even better

17:20

especially late 6xxx - early 7xxx (edited)

Windows Vista betas looked absolutely gorgeous

17:20

Windows 11 betas - they all look the same

11 betas were at first decoy builds (edited)

17:21

like the entirety of cobalt before MS dropped 22000.51

Then it looked pretty much like Windows 10

And the kids that wanted the classic interface gone because “iT isN’t cOnsiStEnT AnD it’S OlD anD UgLy!!!!” loved it

well they were decoy builds

17:22

there was more going on internally

...and that has yet to leak out

21380 almost leaked

They’re taking features that’s we’ve been taking for granted for so long and there isn’t even that much of a reaction

almost

Marda33

Still better than the usability nightmare that is 11

Windows 11 isn't even finished yet dude

Yeah but the deadline is close.

Yaa

17:24

the deadline is just rumors

17:24

never saw anywhere microsoft say it's releasing in september guys (edited)

17:24

October is just a month or two away

A month away now.

17:25

In any case, the design direction of it still sucks and i'm thinking it won't be any better as time goes on. (edited)

and we will get the first build of the next dev cycle next week

17:26

we were supposed to get it this week, but some bug with arm devices prevented it from flighting

Highly doubt the major offenders will be recieving any good changes

Yeah it's just bad at it's current state, 10 will probably end up as the better option unless they addressed that annyoing updating.

MS did say we won't stop you from installing 11 on unsupported hardware but we won't give you updates

Like you’d want 11 on hardware from 2010 unless you’re 12 or something

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1431543836451524609?s=19

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

Microsoft tells me that people who use the Windows 11 ISO install workaround for older PCs won’t be entitled to receive updates from Windows Update, and that could include security updates https://t.co/30l7nm4emR

Likes

418

Marda33

Like you’d want 11 on hardware from 2010 unless you’re 12 or something

That's not the problem for the most part, it's the issues that tag along with using it.

i use 11 on unsupported hardware rn

17:29

runs just about the same as 10

Scamdisk

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1431543836451524609?s=19

I mean, is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing

a bad thing

17:29

but you know what, manual update installing is possible

17:29

so jokes on them

Marda33

Like you’d want 11 on hardware from 2010 unless you’re 12 or something

my PC is from 2016 and it doesn't support windows 11 lol

also uupdump exists so you know what cabs to get

Mine doesn't support it lmao

17:30

I sometimes don't get Windows

Honestly the oldest supported processors should’ve been ones from 2013-2014 when UEFI was getting standardized (edited)

but nah, they need their precious vbs and tpm related shit

Either way you’d want to run 7 or 8.1 on hardware older than 2011 especially if you have a hard drive

especially?

17:32

is it that hard to wait for 30 seconds?

im running 11 just fine on a hard drive

Marda33

Either way you’d want to run 7 or 8.1 on hardware older than 2011 especially if you have a hard drive

I tried to run Vista, but that USB driver thing pop up appeared

17:33

Making me unable to install it

I upgraded from a laptop that took about 5-8 minutes to boot 7 and get itself together to one that is ready to go in 30 seconds with 10, it’s just not that good of an experience when you compare

17:34

And I’ve used 10 on said 5400RPM HDDs back in 2018, it was sluggish from what I remember

7 works just fine on my PC

i think maybe due to the fact i actually have a 7200rpm hdd

Marda33

I upgraded from a laptop that took about 5-8 minutes to boot 7 and get itself together to one that is ready to go in 30 seconds with 10, it’s just not that good of an experience when you compare

The same laptop was slower with 10 of course

17:35

All the laptops we have here have 5400RPM HDDs

17:36

We have an old prebuilt with its motherboard swapped that has a 7200RPM HDD, it’s fine on 10 and boots in 5-10 seconds with 8.1

Deleted User

my PC is from 2016 and it doesn't support windows 11 lol

doesnt matter

17:39

ms is dropping the requirements for clean installs anyways

windows 11 development rn: 1 new ad 2 new bug fixes known bugs: ∞ fuck you and see you next week!

Anyone heard of Windows Server 2022?

we know

everyone in this server knows about it

it's just 10 iron server edition

Huh

Scamdisk

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1431543836451524609?s=19

welp the verge saying that you can install 11 with work arounds lasted nothing

17:46

interesting

me when new windows 11 build drops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UJHy5bd4U8

Snoring Sound Effect

So one of my friends has a Windows 10, right? his PC takes 10 minutes to boot up which by the way, his RAM is 8GB

13:33

Can anyone help with this

Blame Windows 10 on it

13:34

XD

bruh lol

run sfc /scannow

13:34

Ya

13:34

try that

Oh ok

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14:06

Uhh

14:06

this happened

14:07

Yea

reinstall windows if that doesn't work buy a new PC

Deleted User

reinstall windows if that doesn't work buy a new PC

Buying a new PC is probably the last thing anyone would do

Deleted User

Buying a new PC is probably the last thing anyone would do

I'm just roleplaying microsoft answers

sus

Deleted User

reinstall windows if that doesn't work buy a new PC

well not everyone has money you know?

Deleted User

Buying a new PC is probably the last thing anyone would do

yeah

Deleted User

well not everyone has money you know?

learn to read dude it's literally 2 messages above your message

Deleted User

I'm just roleplaying microsoft answers

14:23

ah lol

14:23

i dont trust microsoft

Does the computer have a hard drive and is it 5400RPM?

its not hard drives fault

17:28

that its slow

17:28

its windows 10/11

17:29

older versions of windows run just fine on 5400rpm hdd

17:29

not that fast but okay

Deleted User

its not hard drives fault

if he runs windows 10/11 it is

nah

17:34

it runs slow because of plenty of telemetry, bloatware and ads

Deleted User

its windows 10/11

quite literally the point of the question above

21:27

10 doesn't like 5400RPM HDDs

21:27

or HDDs in general

10 doesn't like only 5400 drives

21:32

7200RPM drives are fine. yet

Deleted User

older versions of windows run just fine on 5400rpm hdd

i can certify you that no

01:36

8.1, 7 and even vista don't really run that well on 5400 rpm drives

ImSwordQueen

7200RPM drives are fine. yet

-if it is a new install

11:25

if you use it daily a lot then it will become slow

Nah

11:25

Even with an old install

for me it ran slow when i had it preinstalled on computer when i bought it

I mained 10 for almost 5 years on a 7200rpm drive

11:25

its fine for now

1903+?

Only 1903

hm

And under

that makes sense i guess (edited)

11:26

for me 20h2 ran really slow

11:26

it took some time to boot

1909 and up arent optimized as the older versions

yeah...

11:27

~~computers got faster~~

11:27

~~ssds are extremely cheap~~

11:27

fuck you microsoft

11:28

you just want money

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/B-bu4TAuW6dGdPmxFaOVgf-PRUB3gBVT_cOU5LT-D90/%3Fwidth%3D580%26height%3D271/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/714584060172959784/882339014605168680/unknown.png

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19:38

Wha

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

kinda looks like ximonite but extremely crooked

20:16

radioactive ximonite

impossible they're gonna finish it by then https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/31/22649940/windows-11-release-date-features-devices-free-upgrade

Microsoft will release Windows 11 on October 5th

It will be a free upgrade for existing Windows 10 PCs.

They didn't even intend it to be that different.

and we're already getting the first public build of next dev cycle this week

10:38

unless a last minute thing happens that prevents it from flighting

hopefully they will consider delaying it and actually change a significant thing or two about it, getting another 10 is unacceptable.

also there won't be android apps lol

Sticker

Profit regardless.

also there won't be android apps lol

Yeah that was pathetic. (edited)

Deleted User

also there won't be android apps lol

so windows 11 is basically useless

Deleted User

also there won't be android apps lol

ah yes. the main feature of 11 won't be in 11

windows 11 will be a disaster

did you noticed it only now?

nah

11:50

i was sure that it will be a disaster

11:50

now i know it will be

it's already a disaster

the moment it got presented

Deleted User

now i know it will be

except microsoft starts to actually work and bring something that looks good

everyone knew it was going to be a disaster

they changed their minds many times about unsupported hardware

literally they are releasing an unfinished product

from not been able to boot at all by GA to no updates for u lol

Scamdisk

they changed their minds many times about unsupported hardware

only some 7th gen processors are supported

oof

what do those processor have that other 7th gens processor don't have? who the fuck knows

aint it like 3 machines with a centrain 7th gen cpu been supported

1st gen ryzen like bruh (edited)

probably the only thing changing is the fucking letter

11:52

and probably i'm right

Deleted User

1st gen ryzen like bruh (edited)

some cheap celeron can run windows 11 just because it got tpm

item atoms can run 11

11:52

but not a core 2 quad

yes

bruh

ImSwordQueen

probably the only thing changing is the fucking letter

well i mean its still NT 10 troll

troll

not the build

even worse

but the processor

i dont remember if 6th to 7th gen was a die shrink

microsoft decided to start making windows 11 because jus because of more telemetry and spying

prob not knowing modern intel

Deleted User

microsoft decided to start making windows 11 because jus because of more telemetry and spying

not that

windows 10 eol is in 2025

cameras and microphones

they wanted to make a new os because 10 was becoming a dumpster fire

well sac that is

that's for oems

11:54

not for a general consumer

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/kaby-lake-refresh-8th-gen-vs-7th-gen

Intel 8th Gen vs 7th Gen CPUs: Kaby Lake Refresh Is a Lot Faster

cant wait 2025

11:54

so we can celebrate death of windows 10

windows 8.1 will survive until 2026

11:55

so i'm gucci

nice

ImSwordQueen

windows 8.1 will survive until 2026

8.0 will too trollol

trollol

when windows 8.1 lasts longer than non LTSC windows 10 trolla

trolla

i fucking hope someone would make bypassESU for 8.1 when those updates come

11:55

non LTSC windows 10 would get ESU updates too for sure

prob yeah

11:55

if anyone cares trolla

trolla

but LTSB/LTSC defo will get ESUs

yee

11:56

microsoft in 2025 when 10 goes eol

its support ends in 2029 so still good for awhile

1507 - 2028 1607 (& 21H2) - 2029 1809 - 2032 (edited)

11:57

that's what i think LTSC esu might be

damn i forgot about 1507 LTSB

Deleted User

also there won't be android apps lol

I'm sorry, what?

12:24

What about the shit they did in that livestream in June

offline/inactive

I'm sorry, what?

they're apparently delaying it to 2022

Goddamn it

12:27

Why do they have to be like that

ImSwordQueen

microsoft in 2025 when 10 goes eol

yes

offline/inactive

Why do they have to be like that

Money!

(:

Im sold

Image attachment

16:23

That box looks hot

honestly

17:00

looks drippy

blue and black is my favourite combination

If only the OS itself was dripping in terms of usability

if only there is a custom box for 8.x like that

ImSwordQueen

Im sold

Rather shit, they should've just decorated the black areas of the box with white outlines of the shape used inside and stop there, would look infinitely better at it too.

Im still sold if that is the box

https://twitter.com/thebookisclosed/status/1433470129061482504?t=ULEyrKecT0O_F9c5x2Ooxw&s=19

Albacore (@thebookisclosed)

Nickel time

Got the number right ✅ https://t.co/bJ7R4A5LNu

that's it really? https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22449/

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22449

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22449 to the Dev Channel. You may notice that this build number is higher than the Windows 11 preview builds you’ve been receiving. That’s because we’re moving the

17:38

hmm it also seems the timebomb is back

Deleted User

that's it really? https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22449/

yes

17:39

a shitload of bugfixes

thanks microsoft

Image attachment

Deleted User

hmm it also seems the timebomb is back

whats the point

the Door guy

whats the point

insider builds were meant to have timebombs

17:45

so it makes sense

the regular ones didn't have timebomb because the unfinished mess you see is actually RTMing..

i hope this release of nickel (redstone Troll

Troll

) is going to have the old 10 shell

nope

shit release

17:57

i wonder why they used rs_prerelease tho

that's their active development branch

17:57

no idea what rs stands for

rs was technically redstone

17:57

on 10

17:57

probably wrong branch?

no it's intended

back on version dev

Image attachment

rs_prerelease was used before 11 during cobalt with 10 UI as well (edited)

does test mode have the do not share screenshot thing?

17:59

it was used in 1809 as well

Image attachment

17:59

actually

18:00

it's used in all insider builds

not all

after redstone

18:01

and pre vibratium it seems

18:01

nvm 2004 has it

they used rs_prelease and [whatever chemical is is]_release like for example fe_release

18:01

now it's co_release on beta and rs_prerelease on dev (edited)

yeah i know

also redstone is actually rs1 rs2 rs3 etc

18:05

it's windows 10/11 development you really trying to make sense out of it

probably they auto generate the branches

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18:17

This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues. If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates. Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty. By selecting Accept, you are acknowledging that you read and understand this statement.

18:17

from betawiki

18:17

damn i don't remember windows being as difficult to install as gentoo

18:18

i imagine

18:18

a future where

18:19

windows is going to replace your UEFI rom

ImSwordQueen

This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for running Windows 11 - these requirements help ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and may result in compatibility issues. If you proceed with installing Windows 11, your PC will no longer be supported and won't be entitled to receive updates. Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty. By selecting Accept, you are acknowledging that you read and understand this statement.

it says you won't be entitled to receiving updates not that you won't (edited)

Damages to your PC due to lack of compatibility aren't covered under the manufacturer warranty.

it's basically you're on your own message

installing windows 11 will void your warranty.

18:25

right..

Vruh 2

back on version dev

show file explorer

it's the same

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-subsystem-for-android/9p3395vx91nr#activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Confidential?

Sussy!

Image attachment

You took a screenshot!

13:51

Time to go to prison now!

Please do not take screenshots or communicate about the content.

Takes a screenshot

Deleted User

Time to go to prison now!

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https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/windows11-empty-taskbar.html

Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar?

A new promo message for Microsoft Teams broke the Windows desktop shell and the taskbar for Windows 11 Insider users. Why can cloud services break Windows PCs?

18:05

I am pleased with the Intel driver results and the discovery of the NVIDIA driver block. I think our goals become more realistic by the day.

win32

https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/windows11-empty-taskbar.html

That's why I don't take anything after 8.1 seriously

18:24

I mean, come on

18:24

Ads...in the operating system.

18:25

The stupidity gets more obvious each time you read the phrase above

win32

I am pleased with the Intel driver results and the discovery of the NVIDIA driver block. I think our goals become more realistic by the day.

news outlets already reported about the windows subsystem for android

19:33

i'll bet my shit that microsoft is going to delist it

Should we archive it or...

19:49

Oh it doesn't work

19:49

bruh

i have 162.70

19:50

which is before microsoft removing it and replaced it with the dummy

19:51

162.70 which can't be installed because encrypted.

MicrosoftCorporationII.WindowsSubsystemForAndroid_1.7.162.70_neutral___8wekyb3d8bbwe.emsixbundle

645.68 KB

19:52

oh actually

19:52

i think i know what happen

19:52

163 and 162 have the same file size

Image attachment

19:53

smugg

Betajyst4094

Ads...in the operating system.

7 and 8.1 had ads

20:34

for 10

20:35

also 8x has ads on the start screen

stellar

also 8x has ads on the start screen

were they ads tho

20:37

oh wait the skype one was

20:37

nvm

ImSwordQueen

Sussy!

What's this cursed ass software?

"11's" soon to be feature. (edited)

Interesting

you should be able to load android APK files

05:20

i wonder if it will only work with android X86 apk files or will have ARM emulation

Me when Microsoft android emulator

server 2022 is supported until oct 2031

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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

server 2022 is supported until oct 2031

after that it's all xbox live

Imagine Windows server 2022 on XBOX

Wouldn't really be that different, except for a few layout changes.

wonder if i can somehow debomb latest server 2022 build

14:59

it has 180 day timebomb

That thing actually came out?

its been a thing for a while now

15:00

it silently came out

Oh, that build. Was only asking of when it did came out, sadly i have no knowledge of doing such a thing. (edited)

aug 18

15:03

mainstream end date is october 2026 as expected (edited)

For 10*? Yes. (edited)

i see server 2022 as the new official-unofficial ltsc

15:04

thats why i wanna use it but last time ive tried running it ive had problems running intel network card and well, the timebomb

15:05

ive got some older via network card which i expect it to work

15:05

but despite the fact that i probably wont use it for 180 days

15:05

the sheer existence of the timebomb bothers me (edited)

lodocus

thats why i wanna use it but last time ive tried running it ive had problems running intel network card and well, the timebomb

Yeah it's longer by 2 years from ltsc.

the sheer existence of the timebomb bothers me

Will it ever see a proper release though?

ive got some older via network card which i expect it to work

Typically, they aren't that much of a hassle so no worries. (edited)

im not even sure if this just an insider preview release kind of thing either

15:08

it says its been released on august 18 but

lodocus

it has 180 day timebomb

evaluation?

yes

you need the full sku

what do you mean exactly? isnt it like enterprise only or something anyways? (edited)

15:09

like ltsc?

Every publication says it's available.

15:09

But..

15:12

Yeah the only way to get it is to evaluate it for 180 days as of now.

Dism

dism what

15:17

say it

One sec, it might be the same way you handled 11 before, have yet to try it, let me snoop it out. (edited)

get a 10 install and replace wim?

15:18

or you mean that weird registry cmd kinda trick that i just dont really know about (edited)

Not that one, there was a dism way to activate the hatchy first 11 build, think it's a similar way to that.

15:20

Tried KMSing it first though?

ive used that "mas" .bat program to activate it

15:24

Microsoft Activation Scripts

Oh for 11?

yeah thats what its called

15:24

yes

15:24

it worked fine

Yeah it's around KMSing it that's the answer given that's the recommended approach here: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-server-insiders/windows-server-2022-product-key/m-p/2379600. But isn't that just an evaluation key?- wait there was a thing called auto-kms too nevermind. (edited)

lodocus

say it

dism /online /set-edition:ServerDatacenter /productkey:key from ms website /accepteula (edited)

15:30

you can do it online, yes

15:30

aka you don't need a PE

does it bomb the timebomb?

well there's no timebomb in 20348

15:30

but it removes the evaluation

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2022

replace datacenter with standard if you want that instead

wait what the

15:32

better click on the download button first before deeming it as a source i suppose

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Oh, so it was the evaluation end period you referred to. (edited)

the eye stopped hosting windows isos i suppose

Oh, they don't host particularly quickly and their stuff can be gone at any moment.

15:37

There were mirrors there that dissappeared. of course not including the betaarchive one. (edited)

well didn't they only stop hosting stuff from BA

is 20344 the latest server 22 build?

Nope(?), it's 20348 assumingly.

20348 is server 2022 RTM

Wait, wait, huh? (edited)

https://archive.org/details/10.0.fe_release.210424-1554_server_standard_datacenter_EN-US/

15:44

build 20344. doesnt seem to have timebomb either (edited)

and it has been generally avaliable for a while now

15:44

actually lemme get a link of 20348 noneval for you

holy shit. windows 11 on a hdd is as bad as 11 on a ssd

lodocus

the eye stopped hosting windows isos i suppose

literally downloaded 2 isos off the-eye today

it makes your drive commit die

ImSwordQueen

holy shit. windows 11 on a hdd is as bad as 11 on a ssd

wtf do you mean

15:45

do you mean 10 on an ssd is as bad as 11 on an hdd

Vruh 2

literally downloaded 2 isos off the-eye today

He meant there are no 11 builds. It just stopped at 10 and lower. (edited)

oh

then ive couldnt find the category

they never hosted them on the-eye

Yes, never was. He meant that.

betaarchive's gone from the-eye for a long while

https://isofiles.bd581e55.workers.dev/Windows%20Server/Windows%20Server%202022/en-us_windows_server_2022_x64_dvd_620d7eac.iso

15:46

there you go

Vruh 2

betaarchive's gone from the-eye for a long while

Yep, aware.

a MVS/MSDN copy of Server 2022

thats the kinda source ive been looking for (edited)

that iso is the GA release of Server 2022 aka 20348.169

what about the timebomb?

15:48

does it have any in it?

no

15:49

it's the RTM after all

holy shit its christmas

15:49

thanks a lot

and also from MVS so it's the full version

15:49

so no eval shit (edited)

Thanks for that.

np

by the way this "isofiles" domain seem to have all the builds (edited)

15:51

do you have some website link to it or?

https://isofiles.bd581e55.workers.dev/

/ | MVS Collection

MVS Collection

What do you mean?

15:52

Yeah the domain itself has a home page.

this even has the official MS 2018 iso of 7 so

15:53

and a full copy of Embedded POSReady 7

wtf

Image attachment

15:53

not based

thanks for these

np

ImSwordQueen

wtf

Trust me, no one want's to actually run the thing. But a crop is a crop.

Image attachment

tho tbf i kinda don't take full credit here, ahmad gave me a link to this a few months ago

15:55

hope he's fine where he is

yeah

Scamdisk

tho tbf i kinda don't take full credit here, ahmad gave me a link to this a few months ago

His place hasn't seen any major dangers, so it's likely just a need to improve his personal life so no worries there. (edited)

yeah, i just hope he's fine, that's it

Same as well.

What

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An article talking about an alternative to 11, what of it?

0/10 it ain't called Windows 12 Lite /s

Windows 11 is a great operating sytem. It hasn't even left beta status yet, but is absolutely the best desktop operating system Microsoft has ever created. Seriously, folks, it is exceptional. If your computer is compatible with it, and you like Windows 10, you will probalby enjoy Windows11 even more -- if you keep an open mind. You see, the upcoming Windows 11 is likely to be quite polarizing. It features radical changes to the user interface (such as a centered task bar) which I adore, but other users are sure to dislike. Not to mention, the system requirements will leave many still-capable computers unable to upgrade. Even worse, you might be left without updates! These unfortunate computer owners will have to decide whether to continue using Windows 10 or buy a new Windows 11-compatible PC. Thankfully, there is an arguably better option -- just switch to Linux! Yes, modern Linux-based operating systems are very well-supported and most will run great on aging hardware (unlike Windows 11). Linux Lite, which uses the Xfce desktop environment, is one of the best Linux distributions for Windows-switchers, as it is lightweight, modern, and familiar. Advertisement Today, Linux Lite 5.6 FINAL becomes available, and it is based on Ubuntu 20.04.3. The operating system uses Linux kernel 5.4.0-81, but other kernels are available too, ranging from 3.13 to 5.14. This new version of Linux Lite also comes with some excellent software packages, such as Firefox 91.0.1, Thunderbird 78.11.0, LibreOffice 6.4.7.2, VLC 3.0.9.2, and GIMP 2.10.18.

16:34

"This release includes updates to the Help Manual -- our extensive, easy to follow Linux Lite guide, you can now install Linux Lite directly from Lite Welcome, an updated Papirus icon theme, 2 new features added to Lite Tweaks, the introduction of the 'Pay what You Want' digital download model, 7 new wallpapers, Python default version now set to Python3, and a host of bug fixes and enhancements for our target audience. If you're coming from Windows, you'll find this to be a solid, stable release that will help make your transition to a linux based operating system, user friendly," the developers explain. The devs share known issues below. No prompt to eject Media at the end of the Legacy install, prompt is available at the end of the UEFI install. Release Notes - not working on first installer slide. Desktop icons - English support only. Grub - press the ESC key whilst booting in UEFI mode after your BIOS has posted. Use the SHIFT key if running Linux Lite in Legacy mode. Grub menu shows Linux Lite as "Ubuntu."

16:34

If you are ready to try out Linux Lite 5.6, you can download it here now. Should you replace Windows with Linux Lite today? No, not immediately -- you should obviously try it first and make sure sure it fully meets your needs. With that said, you are likely to be very impressed by how capable Linux-based desktop operating systems are these days. Microsoft should be very worried.

16:34

That's the article

(reposted from #lounge) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc-6G9R2APE

Finally Install Windows 11 On The Raspberry Pi 4 NO PC REQUIRED!

seeing XP and 11 on the list

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and Vista

serjG

seeing XP and 11 on the list

ooooooooo

21:16

2000 might be unofficially working with that gpu too

21:16

bwc drivers can work maybe

2000 will work with the bwc drivers

Yes, that's a guarantee, the 7xx series is old enough for that treatment. (edited)

thats why the 700/900 series is preferred for legacy windows support

That doesn't mean however, whenever you see a 760 card, you grab it, just avoid it, no questions asked. (edited)

22:12

Either another one from the series, or the 750 ti.

off to installing server 22

17:10

i wonder if datacenter is any better than standard

It depends.

17:11

But think standard is the "customer" one. If so, the end date will be 2025 or 6. (edited)

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/editions-comparison-windows-server-2019

Comparison of Standard and Datacenter editions Windows Server 2019

Comparison of Standard and Datacenter editions of Windows Server 2019.

17:14

according to ms it has a bit more features

Oh so neither of them are considered "customer" level.

no

17:54

it's server software

uhh

18:23

so microsoft activation scripts doesnt support server 22

Yeah you gotta do it manually

manually?

18:24

how?

slmgr /upk slmgr /ipk kms key from MS website slmgr /skms kms8.msguides.com slmgr /ato

gotta find that kms key then

Just google KMS keys

18:26

You will find it easily

lmao

Image attachment

18:28

thanks ms

How's Windows 2022 look?

18:30

lol

same as windows 10

Oh

error: no kms could be contacted

18:32

i assume its because i am offline currently

18:38

fuck. didnt work

18:38

if i go online windows will shove the shitty drivers down my throat

18:39

even if i tell it to not to

18:39

but thats the only way i suppose

ffs

19:53

had to reinstall and been working on this stupid we couldnt create a new partition error in setup

19:53

ive plugged in an unused laptop hard drive to save some more space

19:54

just why the hell does laptop hdds have to suck dick so bad? (edited)

19:54

they potentially could be the worst thing humans created

ford...

lodocus

just why the hell does laptop hdds have to suck dick so bad? (edited)

It probably just 10 killing it.

lodocus

just why the hell does laptop hdds have to suck dick so bad? (edited)

mine is fine

20:11

1tb wd blue i got from a random dell

https://startisback.com/tbd/

22:03

IT'S HERE

#RipStart11

22:11

useless piece of stardock garbage

looks based

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ImSwordQueen

#RipStart11

yes!

10:32

even tho startisback is paid its still better than this trash

it doesn't have the centered start button

10:36

but it's ok

No need for that anyway.

Do toolbars work

@Scamdisk

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Nice

10:43

That means wmpband is back baby

i mean

yee

if you enabled the classic taskbar on winaero tweaker you still had it

10:46

look. the feature that microsoft hates

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ImSwordQueen

it doesn't have the centered start button

pf

ImSwordQueen

#RipStart11

What's wrong with Start11?

16:38

I never used it obviously, so I'm wondering what's wrong with it

Overpriced for the job it does

Huh

@Donnie6232 windows vista is op

wrong

shoot win32 with a .22lr hexagonal barrel henry lever action (edited)

fuck your opinion on vista

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

shoot win32 with a .22lr hexagonal barrel henry lever action (edited)

we know you’d like to do that

biden

smugdoge

Real

arialgirl pinned a message to this channel. 10/09/2021 18:24

freedom is gay

18:27

confirmed real

freedom will not fuck pfp

20:05

freedom says: your profile picture is bad

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County you can change edit the message so his intentions are ruined lqtroll

lqtroll

screenshots immortalize it

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welp too late

my message is better

win5270

screenshots immortalize it

faked

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real

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

faked

just like you claiming to be straight

i am Super Straight

about as straight as 6002 on broadwell

20:15

lol

ouch

20:15

that hurts

alright i will stop now lol

as straight as 6003 on my e6510 B)

i'm straight as my vista install.......

20:16

wait

20:16

my vista install is dead

20:16

so it means i'm dead inside

win5270 pinned a message to this channel. 10/09/2021 20:17

there

20:17

immortal

fake

20:17

fake screenshot

windows 10/11 important messages

nope

you should pin it in an another channel

i'll let ryan decide that

(just to keep shit to the proper channel)

hey what if i say this sceeenshot is as fake as trump winning 2020s election

Yes let's not clog this channel

^

i'll let ryan decide what to do

20:18

hes admin

@win32

@docR

you are online

he said doc

or win32 ig

20:18

idc

dude

20:19

you gonna shoot him with a 22 lr?

20:19

you for real?

yea

go to brazil

you said that?

he did

yea

fuck wrong screenshot

20:20

sorry about that

22 lr would be like some bee sting or something

yeah if i kill win32 vista dies too

20:20

so i cant kill him

of course way worse than a bee sting but not something major either

if vista dies my laptop dies too

Rule 10 my people, I'm a discord mod!

discord moderator

20:20

tobon

20:20

you arw tobin

lodocus

22 lr would be like some bee sting or something

what if. he is allergic to bee stings

20:21

tobon

its like bee stings with no allergy

20:21

and it sounds cooler

The mayor of a nearby town died when he was stung by dozens of bees simultaneously, not allergic.

Embedded image

wtf

20:21

canada

win32

The mayor of a nearby town died when he was stung by dozens of bees simultaneously, not allergic.

wtf

win32

The mayor of a nearby town died when he was stung by dozens of bees simultaneously, not allergic.

bruh

Must have attacked a hive.

was he maining 6002 on haswell?

6002 on hivewell

Sticker

ImSwordQueen

was he maining 6002 on haswell?

mf drifted into a hive

lodocus

mf drifted into a hive

and crashed

corrupted into a stinger

and corrupted itself

20:24

fuck the bees

win5270

fuck the bees

thank God for roundup /s

did someone here ever played undertale?

20:26

a totally unrelated and no context question

win10

win11

only windows 10/11 related messages beyond this point win10

win10

win11

(edited)

Sticker

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crying

Image attachment

win5270

win10

win11

only windows 10/11 related messages beyond this point win10

win10

win11

(edited)

windows 10 fuckinf aucks

20:31

sick

20:31

suck

agreed

win5270

screenshots immortalize it

ha

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

windows 10 fuckinf aucks

yes

17:39

8.x is good (edited)

17:39

7 good too

17:39

xp great

17:39

vista based

8.1 is good

@Deleted User just 8.1 or 8.x series as a whole?

fixed

Deleted User

xp great

xp sucks dick lol

whatever

17:52

i love xp

XP was a great os. No other single version of an OS has been able to hold 80%+ market share for years on end.

10s market share is 78% pepe_sad

pepe_sad

7 never reached 80+ right?

Then again, it was also the latest version for a few years because well, Vista's development hell

18:22

People just grew on it

18:22

even tho it was hated at launch

so like 10

Except without feature updates every few months

and without free beta access

Except LH builds leaked even back then

"leaked" =/= free beta access (edited)

It's technically free access to betas, just not legal

by free beta access is that microsoft will give you builds

trollol

18:26

Jokes aside, you got a point

18:27

even tho post reset have a "free" beta access

also have you noticed that

18:28

insider builds had higher time limit than before 10?

as in the timebomb?

yep

18:28

even if everyone in the insider build have at least a good enough internet connection to download the insider builds

Yet rn they are releasing builds with compile dates so close to the timebomb

(then there is 224XX that has 65 days timebomb)

18:29

TrollSad

they extend it only when it's very close

imagine

With some SPP tinkering you could technically extend a build's timebomb

microsoft is making windows 12 rn in the dev branch trollDark

trollDark

Scamdisk

With some SPP tinkering you could technically extend a build's timebomb

or just remove it

But why do that when you can remove it

18:30

yes

windows 10 vnext was windows 11

18:30

so windows 11 vnext is windows 12 Troll

Troll

18:31

/j

i do know one thing, they are also working on a WCOS-like thing to replace NT

18:31

written in Rust of all things

^ 100% it will get scrapped

18:31

or used for something not important

That project checks out with everything a WCOS would be

18:32

but they don't call it that internally

i would be surprised if it doesn't get scrapped

18:32

or massively under deliver

Can't say much aside from what ik

you don't work for microsoft

18:33

or do you

no, i just get info from sources

18:35

But yeah, they are killing off stuff like GDI, thing32, etc

18:36

and keeping them in sandboxes only

will they kill win32?

No

ok it isn't going to be a massive failure

They will just keep it in sandboxes iirc

or maybe

windows 11 with startisback tbd looks so good holy shit

SIB+++ looks hella promising

fr

yeah, everyone knows that's gonna be the final name

15:17

don't lie

on 22000 you can get the centered start menu as well

15:18

so fuck start11

15:18

we got sib now

Windows 7 theme with Center Start Menu

15:18

valvenewsMega

15:19

if only there were good ways of theming windows 10 and 11

on 22454 the normal taskbar option is broken but oh well

Scamdisk

if only there were good ways of theming windows 10 and 11

there are tho

15:19

finding the themes is going to be a challenge

oh the new snipping tool is already out

15:43

but not paint

15:43

neither new notepad is out

they released the new photos app

15:43

but not notepad and paint

15:43

great job ms

when the simplest of things aren't ready for the public

Scamdisk

if only there were good ways of theming windows 10 and 11

Secureuxtheme allows for compatible themes to be used on win10, but there really aren’t any good ones past 1909 because they killed off all glass support in 2004

Scamdisk

if only there were good ways of theming windows 10 and 11

It might become a reality as time goes on.

Image attachment

windows 11 is a hot mess, upvotes if you agree (edited)

yes but it’s also in beta

13:25

ofc it’s gonna be buggy

13:26

but if 11 rtm feels like a beta, I’m switching to 8

Ximonite

but if 11 rtm feels like a beta, I’m switching to 8

flushy

Switch to Vist- oh wait

Fine

windows 11 is a hot mess, upvotes if you agree (edited)

^

13:56

@Ximonite happy bday if it is today

13:56

why did i posted it here lol

https://youtu.be/FURv5i9dzAk?t=590

Funny Local News

Best TV News Bloopers Fails #10

18:24

when the get windows 10/gwx app invaded the news studio at KCCI News 8 (edited)

ignores windows 10 (edited)

Ximonite

yes but it’s also in beta

Oh not that

20:25

I meant all the shit Microsoft's been pulling

nostalgia

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Scamdisk

if only there were good ways of theming windows 10 and 11

stardock windowblinds

23:46

for 10 atleast

Drips

stardock windowblinds

he said good

01:43

windowblinds is the ultimate nightmare

Deleted User

windowblinds is the ultimate nightmare

ive found it to be very good

02:42

in my time using it

Image attachment

13:04

in the latest insider sources folder

13:04

yikes

Remove it

4ktroll

Betajyst4094

Remove it

4ktroll

it creates a new one

13:19

also if you use fix tpm then it doesn't happen anyway (edited)

13:21

windows 11 moment

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smugdoge

Image attachment

ImSwordQueen

smugdoge

so what?

19:03

oh wrong image

ImSwordQueen

windows 11 moment

so what?

19:04

that means your pc may be compatible with windows xp/vista (edited)

Ha, my PC is compatible with Vista, but I'm not sure about XP

19:23

I might test it out

does someone know where are the network icons located on 11? (they aren't in pnidui.dll. those are the 10 ones)

still found nothing

20:10

only 10 icons

Should I use WinNTSetup for Windows 10?

I meant LTSC 2019

If you need to.

Alright

Wait can I put 60GB into Win10 or should I add more

12:45

?

Depends on how you use it, but that's obviously going to be filled on normal use.

I see

Image attachment

13:30

Yeah, I couldn't add it to 70GB

13:30

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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14:24

amazon placeholder app

microsoft does what amazon't

And done

14:50

It's now on my PC

14:50

as a dualboot

Very nice.

I should probably install updates with wumt

Image attachment

15:03

It's downloading now

Okay, I installed the updates in WUMT, but I have a problem, it can't find the video driver (edited)

16:05

Oh nevermind I guess it worked

16:10

Image attachment

Not bad.

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Wait, Should I use the debloater?

If you want to.

Alright

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and done

latest revios is still 21h1 1.0... that has its own problems

18:55

like network icons, and the search problem

18:56

(search borking itself aka search not responding to keypresses, affects search bar, settings and microsoft store) (edited)

Oof

20:25

Does anyone know a way of activating Windows 10? also I tried the activation keys the ones from gvlk

there are already server 2021 keys leaked online

Image attachment

21:15

took 2 months?

Could be just a coincidence, not holding a breath.

MassClaw

Could be just a coincidence, not holding a breath.

from the website i'm using those are legit keys

21:22

i can't test because no 2021 install

21:22

and no simplePIDx for 2021 (edited)

Alright, I guess I'll have to activate it with KMSpico

10:57

Is it safe to do it?

10:58

and also I should probably turn off real time protection (edited)

ok nvm, I got it

Did it work? Was about to say, tipped on my tongue but quickly forgot. (edited)

Yeah

11:27

But I used a YT method

So I'll switch to LTSB 2016

16:01

Does anyone know a source to download it?, also it has to be 32-bit (okay fuck nevermind I got one from the eye) (edited)

16:07

I did find a source of archive.org but the download speed is slow (edited)

Sent.

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DeRosenberg

Click to see attachment 🖼️

why

18:43

if it is for destoying it and installing palemoon than im fine (edited)

It's LTSB 2016, duh

ah thats fine too

https://gmunk.com/Windows-10-Desktop

Windows 10 Desktop — .www | GMUNK

Windows 10 DesktopJuly 2015 –– An icon is defined, among other things, by its longevity. Icons don’t withstand change - they endure it, by evolving...

ImSwordQueen

https://gmunk.com/Windows-10-Desktop

some rejected wallpapers shown here look fantastic

windoze 10 had the smallest wallpaper selection of any windozer (edited)

I think so

windows 7 had all the regional wallpapers

22:04

which was nice

yes

22:04

lh/vista had a good number of beta wallpapers

lh concept and UI demos*

22:12

in actually builds there aren't a lot of new wallpapers

22:12

meanwhile vista ehhh?

the best windows 7 default wallpaper is this

Image attachment

only 12 wallpapers in actual builds

22:14

23 in UI demos

22:14

^ these all pre reset

Image attachment

03:20

Image attachment

03:20

best default 7 wallpapers

the

raih

https://www.windowsfx.org/ boy, the folks at linuxfx copied windows 11 too

Windowsfx Operating System

Windowsfx Operating System

13:07

i still cant put it on my usb flash drive cuz its 4gb and the iso for linuxfx 11 is 4.2gb

I have one that's like 8GB lmao

Alright, I'm starting whether if I should install Tiny10 as a dualboot just to test it out and such

That decision lies on you.

Okay then

Yeah, it heavily depends on what you use after all.

Fair point

So I made a mistake

20:07

I used winntsetup to install tiny10

20:07

And then this happened

20:08

Image attachment

20:08

Help

Fuck, well.

20:08

You might have to wipe it out.

DeRosenberg

Click to see attachment 🖼️

do you have an hiren boot pe usb?

20:08

or dvd even

Image attachment

20:09

How can I do that

ImSwordQueen

do you have an hiren boot pe usb?

No

make one

How can I do that,

20:09

I'm scared

do you have an another pc

Just burn one in an al- yes.

ImSwordQueen

do you have an another pc

No

that monitor got drip, literally

well

20:10

you have to make a BCD somehow

Again, how

20:11

I can't select 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4vPfPSW_KA

How to Add another existing Windows to the Boot menu (bcdboot F:\Wi...

20:12

obv you have to do that in recovery

Recovery mode

20:14

Image attachment

why get scared of win bootloaders

Scroll up

DeRosenberg

Click to see attachment 🖼️

how the fuck

It's tiny10

20:15

oh god

ImSwordQueen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4vPfPSW_KA

man

you don't have an another usb stick with an another os?

did you overwrite

20:16

your previous install

he didn't

20:16

the fucking bcd of tiny10 is fucking shit

20:16

because obv ntdev tried to make it as small as possible

20:16

that's why you don't fucking use tiny oses

20:16

they are up to no good

ImSwordQueen

you don't have an another usb stick with an another os?

I'll see

just get a usb stick like that

ImSwordQueen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4vPfPSW_KA

do this shit right here

ImSwordQueen

they are up to no good

Yeah

lucky that my nano 8 iso has only vmware and virtualbox drivers (edited)

I didn't even know that

so that someone that doesn't know shit does not install it by mistake

20:19

and get stuck

Nope, I don't have one

20:19

I'm fucked

yep

20:20

try shift+ f10?

I'll try

20:21

No I can't

you're fucked

Erm

no usb or second pc = fucked

I have a USB, but no windows obviously

yep

20:23

that's worthless

DeRosenberg

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tf why would you ever install tiny10 on real hardware

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21:13

So I got Linux Mint on my USB

i tried it and trust me it was not fun

Deleted User

tf why would you ever install tiny10 on real hardware

No one told me that

wdym

21:14

tiny10 is so stripped down that there are no drivers inside of it

No one said I shouldn't do it on real hardware afaik

well i said it now (edited)

Alright

tiny10 is made more if you need it in a vm (edited)

21:15

and you have a low end pc

¯\(ツ)\/¯

21:15

I guess I should install Mint

21:15

Then install 7

21:16

I guess

ok

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21:22

Welp

21:23

I should delete the windows 10 partition

21:23

And I did

21:23

Should I choose that partition?

21:29

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21:29

This is Windows 10

21:29

That was deleted

21:35

Holy shit uh

21:36

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DeRosenberg

So I got Linux Mint on my USB

you got the entire wrong os

Look

21:36

It's working

lucky you

ye

what iso is that btw

21:36

if it's 8.0

Yes

21:37

It is

21:38

I'm glad it worked

what iso did you use

21:40

for your install

Basically

21:42

I deleted the tiny10 partition when I was on Mint, then I shut it down to see what happens,

21:42

It had this Winload.exe error, but luckily I easily managed to get to 8.0 pro

21:42

and here we are

Nice.

Yea

yeah

21:43

before trying a new os

21:43

get a usb drive

21:44

put hiren boot pe

21:44

forget about it

21:44

and if you need it use it

Yeah

21:45

Should I get VMware for Tiny10?

yeah

https://getintopc.com/softwares/virtualization/vmware-workstation-player-2021-free-download/

VMware Workstation Player 2021 Free Download

VMware Workstation Player 2021 Free Download Latest Version. It is full offline installer standalone setup of VMware Workstation Player 2021.

i just use direct links from vmware site on a github

Okay I'll use pro 15

16 is more recommended for 10, especially if it's recent, but think it's based on old builds.

I have 8

22:02

lol

22:03

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DeRosenberg

I have 8

Meant tiny10 as a guest.

Oh

22:04

Should I get VMware Workstation Player or the Pro one?

The pro one of course, it's a workstation thus a beast for your kind of work.

22:10

Unless you don't care about the other features workstation has. But that's rare. (edited)

Alright

I installed it

22:25

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Sure enough.

Wait Typical?

A typical vm based on what os you will choose.

Huh

It will configure advanced settings for you in a few clicks.

22:28

Unless you want to change the kind of drive you want to work with.

22:29

Say, different controller types like IDE, or you want to choose a different virtual disk format.

Huh

Something you don't need to be too conserned with if you are running 10 anyway.

DeRosenberg

Huh

You know floppy disk readers, right?

Uh idk

One sec.

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DeRosenberg

Uh idk

It's for emulating usually old drives like this one: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71TGf5UNPOL._AC_SL1385_.jpg

Embedded image

Oh

22:33

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Yes, not necessarily a big deal for your use- yes, emulating NVMe for 10 is recommended.

22:34

From 8.x and onward it became the staple.

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Again, like it states, it's the first choice by a mile if you are new to this, and generally a pick even for seasoned users.

Okay then

22:36

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The default size is usually right, do you have that space though?

Yeah, but I'm talking about the virtual disk part

22:37

Should I keep as it is?

Depends on your use entirely.

22:37

Do you want to do some serious stuff on it and work constantly in it from now on? Or it's just a pick and ditch? (edited)

I don't know, honestly

22:38

I'm gonna try it out

Sure enough.

This host does not support Intel VT-x. This host does not support "Intel EPT" hardware assisted MMU virtualization. Module 'CPUIDEarly' power on failed. Failed to start the virtual machine.

22:40

Welp

One sec, can you give the popup screen shot?

22:45

You might have to disable VMCI.

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MassClaw

You might have to disable VMCI.

Wait no that would just scream "Vmci driver's handle is invalid" only. My bad.

22:47

One sec though.

22:48

Did you check your bios and see if vt-x is on?

22:48

Your cpu might not support it though, which model?

idk if I have that tbh

MassClaw

Your cpu might not support it though, which model?

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Depends on your cpu model- yep, there's no VT-d: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/40478/intel-pentium-processor-e5400-2m-cache-2-70-ghz-800-mhz-fsb/specifications.html

Intel® Pentium® Processor E5400 (2M Cache, 2.70 GHz, 800 MHz FSB) -...

Intel® Pentium® Processor E5400 (2M Cache, 2.70 GHz, 800 MHz FSB) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

Fuck

Well damn.

fuck modern pentium lol

05:07

they're just not useful for one thing

DeRosenberg

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even if virtualization worked 1 core vm's would be doodoo fart

sus

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WinDVD

sus

if you ask the ai bot if he likes vista he will say thi

10:35

s

10:35

wait

10:36

aaa cant find the image from someone

10:37

he will say that vista is good

10:37

and if you ask him did you used it and he will say it was good expirence

based bot

Based 11 bot

Someone ask him about XP

Deleted User

and if you ask him did you used it and he will say it was good expirence

based

right man in the wrong place

lodocus

right man in the wrong place

this tbh

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21:39

windows 11 is going to be the most secure windows

21:39

doesn't give you security updates

21:40

????

ImSwordQueen

windows 11 is going to be the most secure windows

microsoft loves to be inconsistent with their decisions

21:42

also dism

21:42

trollDark

Yeah fuck 11 at this point honestly, it's just a disaster.

windows 11 could have been an ok os

21:55

if it was a 10 update

21:55

10 update with a name change

21:55

and that's it

21:55

no need for this bs of requirements

21:55

or this awful shell

ImSwordQueen

10 update with a name change

Yes, exactly.

cobalt should have been 10

22:01

it was a fucking perfect update for 10

Nothing that saves it really, even that "native android support" is just tagged on to fill the feature list.

but no

22:02

microsoft needs to fuck the consumer because funny right?

22:02

native android support is the fucking same as "Windows sandbox"

Indefinitely, why not fuck their machines up? We hadn't done enough with 10 yet. (edited)

ImSwordQueen

native android support is the fucking same as "Windows sandbox"

And linux had it a decade ago.

and a thing

22:03

i fucking swear intel is involved too

22:03

they aren't going to admit it obv

Pretty sure.

but they are fucking involved

You are basing this on that news right?

because it's not possible that processors that have the fucking tpm 2 secure shit and uefi my ass aren't supported

22:04

i'm talking about what i saw which is (let me get the screenshot)

It isn't, it's just there for the same purpose as UEFI.

22:05

i'm talking about what i saw which is (let me get the screenshot)

Yep, think it's it.

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22:05

this bs of pc health my ass

Oh, not that, there was a talk behind that involved intel, a bunch of other manufactures and microsoft.

this bs of pc health my ass

Yes that's just bullshit. (edited)

oh then i haven't hear the news

22:06

but probably they fucking did

It's old, but amd's involved in it too so make of that what you will. (edited)

obv amd is involved too

22:06

they have to make money somehow

22:06

and making consumers keep their pcs and not make a lot of ewaste isn't the solution

it's weird.

history repeats itself

Yes unironically.

older pcs are too upgradable and reusable

22:10

remove those perks in new laptops

22:10

they still sell

22:10

and repeat for other products as well

22:10

this is the fucking apple way

And it works, that's the problem.

i'm still going to keep windows 11 insider preview on my unsupported laptop

22:12

and microsoft can't stop me

22:12

methods will come

Hopefully, but after the hell that 10 caused, don't think it's worth it on this end. (edited)

I have 8.1 too

22:12

And will main 8.1 mostly

22:13

But pcs that are on 10 i will upgrade them to 11

Phones exist so what's the point of Android support

22:15

Plus I'm pretty sure it's gonna be laggy considering how Windows 11's doing

Android support honestly

22:15

It's a good idea

22:16

emulators exist to fill that space

22:16

So having one native on your os feels nice

Yeah kinda, but I'm worried if it's gonna be buggy and stuff

how so

I mean if it's gonna happen, which it won't I guess

le windows server based on the worst version of nt 10

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:doom:

ImSwordQueen

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What the fuck are my eyes doing

18:01

The logo still feels slightly titled to the right

That moment when MS just expects people to have their monitors set to stretch 4:3

18:03

and honestly 4:3 stretching is disgusting

THEY MADE IT PERFECT SIZE FOR SERVER

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18:07

WHAT THE FUCK

18:07

NO WAY

Where more options (edited)

when you right click on a file

Scamdisk

and honestly 4:3 stretching is disgusting

all cs pro players crying in the distance

it's not that bigger

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18:26

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ah yes

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18:36

this makes sense

windows server but on windows 11

if only...

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19:44

fixed the branding

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lol

this is how a server sku should look like tbh

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19:58

removing all the edge traces now

19:59

there are 2 edge in windows 11

microsoft edge, and the one that tries to launch the uwp one

no

20:00

edge chromium

20:01

and edgeCore

20:01

which are the same thing

20:01

but edgecore doesn't like the setup --uninstall --force-uninstall --system-level thing

20:01

and doesn't do the do

20:01

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so something that is forced?

20:02

forced microsoft edge...

slow down there

20:07

it's probably for the widget shit

20:12

actually

20:12

there are 3 of them

20:12

you can't have enough edge

so edgy

i unedgyfy

20:14

a server os shouldn't have 3 instances of fucking edge

should a server OS even have a GUI

eh yesn't

20:15

it makes it easier to manage stuff

20:15

but it should be loaded with useless shit

oh the server 2022 one still have the moving message

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snip and sketch is stupid

20:26

and demanding probably because of telemetry

20:27

snipping tool is perfect

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20:35

aerolite still broken as always

total black!

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ro

windows 11 moment

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tf

14:30

how did you enable old taskbar on 22000

lodocus

how did you enable old taskbar on 22000

you can just use winaero tweaker

14:41

you can also enable the old tray icons

14:41

like network volume etc

14:41

they only got rid of the 10 start menu

windows server vnext ltsc more like windows 11 without tpm

windows server 11 doesn't require tpm for installations

17:23

even on real hardware

17:23

that's so neat

Based

so there is a possibility that they aren't going to include any bugchecks

17:31

i hope

don't be so sure about that

Scamdisk

don't be so sure about that

eh i can only hope

MS could always screw us over

probably they won't for the businesses

17:33

probably that's the thing they meant for "special versions of windows 11 that doesn't require tpm"

tpm isn't the concern

17:33

it's the cpu gen crap

obv the tpm thing was before the cpu gen thing too

Doesn't CPU's of any kind not work with 11?

its 8th gen or later that's officially supported

17:34

on AMD it is either zen+ or zen 2 idk

but considering microsoft and relations with businesses i don't think they will implement that too

17:34

they were able to implement it no problem

17:35

actually. the client build does include it right?

well nothing stopped them from implementing nx checks in 8.0

ImSwordQueen

actually. the client build does include it right?

iirc yes

by default i mean

well setup still screams at you if requirements aren't met

and 2022 setup doesn't do that yet

well server team compiled shit differently

17:36

also keep a note on that yet

i still think they aren't going to screw server consumers for a while

well glad sac server is dead

17:37

because now we get builds with desktop experience

sac gone

crabrave

17:38

wait

17:38

what happens if you use appraiser and appraiserres from 224xx server on 224xx client

17:38

regular view vs compact view...

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18:16

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18:17

i think i will keep the compact view on

windows 11 is stupid

18:18

why would you ever use it as daily driver?

Deleted User

windows 11 is stupid

thats a windows server build

18:19

build 22463 but server

but still requires tpm

nope (edited)

huh

it installed just fine

18:19

for 22463 server (edited)

we will see about that in rtm

it didnt even scream "this pc isnt compatible"

said we will see

18:22

macro$haft is stupid (edited)

meanwhile putting the strength of the night light to 100 makes the monitor scream RED (edited)

18:32

...

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18:33

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18:33

make up your mind

18:36

for some reason i cant change the timezone..? thanks windows

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Deleted User

macro$haft is stupid (edited)

cuz... there is a difference between 2 build 22463s, i think the client 22463 requires that tpm crap, while server 22463 doesnt

ok

18:43

i still dont care

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

for 22463 server (edited)

server doesn't require tpm for now

19:07

that's a normal behavior

activating windows before i break the activation system

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Good luck

19:25

lmao

perfect

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19:25

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19:26

it's in italian because a tool that works only in italian windows

19:26

i will remove the italian language after i'm done

ImSwordQueen

server doesn't require tpm for now

meanwhile client

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#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

meanwhile client

LMAO

19:38

you unlocked all the unsupported specs

and no client 22463 downloads for some reason, build 22454 is provided instead

also now every pro install i have of 10 and 11 are activated

19:39

made in vmware

thats why i installed server build 22463, its windows 11 build 22463 but without bloat and the ridiculus system requirements

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20:32

have to remove some stuff too and fix some things

20:32

and it will be perfect

20:32

very minimal 11 install

Man 11 is though

21:50

i cut basebrd in half and it still work like nothing happen

ImSwordQueen

i cut basebrd in half and it still work like nothing happen

I'm pretty sure you can just delete basebrd completely and it's still gonna work

Yes

07:26

But it will not display anything

07:26

Instead cutting in half would break it for me

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ImSwordQueen

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unbased and bluepilled (edited)

Deleted User

unbased and bluepilled (edited)

nah based and redpilled you mean

You wouldn't have touched 11 otherwise.

12:41

That aside, holy shit that explorer is horrendous.

12:41

Amare it's not your fault.

startisback tbd doesn't like the classic theme

12:42

so that's why i'm using reactOS explorer

Ah, not bad.

this happens

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windows 12 taskbar leaked??

That would be miles better but unfortunately, they will just double down on something even worse. (edited)

also fonts commit suicide in startisback

12:49

ok i found the replacement

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fixed startisback and now it's a lot better

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Windows 11 seems to suck even more now

tpm 2.0 will be a requirement for vms as well

14:18

so that's BS

MS is going mad

they're going bonkers

14:19

imagine a class action lawsuit or something

14:19

that might be too much but eh

That wouldn't be too much I think

14:19

they're basically gonna create a ton of e-waste

people will most likely stick with 10 or switch to linux if they know how to use it

14:21

just like how I used XP on a shitty celeron asus laptop from 2010 after EOL

I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 alongside Windows 7

14:22

Windows 7 primarily for AE and such

14:22

Ubuntu for web browsing and chatting

I mainly use windows 10 and 8 (edited)

14:29

Vista maybe soon

serjG

tpm 2.0 will be a requirement for vms as well

then get windows server vnext build 22464 on it 4ktroll

4ktroll

15:28

including the vms

unironically ironic

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imagine

10:05

microsoft is going to install a bios update for users that have windows 11 without requirements to brick their machines

I don't wanna imagine that

If I ever get a new PC, I will install Windows 10 LTSC

11:11

Cuz it's better than latest 10

it depends what version of ltsc

11:13

ltsc 2022 is based on the same shit that 20h2 21h1 and 21h2 client are based

I would have 10 LTSC 2019

11:16

Cuz my new PC will only have UEFI

11:16

Also, are there any customization tools for LTSC 1809?

>1809 opengl

Hm?

i mean there are all the ones that work on client 1809

1809 broke opengl builds from near 2009-2010

Oh

11:27

Then latest 10, but less bloated

11:27

At least there's Curtains/Windowblinds

what about 1803

11:28

it doesnt have the opengl issue

11:28

and it also doesnt have a task manager issue since 1903

1803 is no longer supported tho

11:29

so the best bet is anniversary ltsb

11:29

but no supported uwp apps there

will he even use uwp apps bro

how the fuck am i suppose to know

@RostiTheGamer will you use the uwp apps?

Nope

1607 anniversary then

then anniversary it's the best bet

hold on

11:31

what gpu

11:31

will you use

Maybe built in one

11:31

Cuz PC sometimes have builtin gpu

11:32

Like Intel

i know but builtin gpu is like

11:32

bullshit but not as in word, rather as in pc component

Ok

i get intel hd flashbacks

11:32

every day

RostiTheGamer

I would have 10 LTSC 2019

I really don't know what LTSC version I should chosse, 2016 or 2019 (edited)

12:10

Any uh suggestion I guess?

16

12:18

But why a modern os in such a potato pc?

I have no idea

DeRosenberg

Any uh suggestion I guess?

windows 8.1

don't you love that ewaste products are getting windows 11

14:58

and instead still good machines don't

14:58

really fun

start11 main feature lmao

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ImSwordQueen

don't you love that ewaste products are getting windows 11

do you mean shitty $100 netbooks

stellar

do you mean shitty $100 netbooks

yes

16:00

aren't those ewaste (edited)

pretty much

wmp13 real

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wmp15*

There was a WMP14?

zune video of 8.x was wmp13 and the 10 one was wmp 14 Troll

Troll

XD

not really because 2 apps for the things wmp could do in 1

Microsoft was the kind of company to let you attempt to install windows on literally anything

Scamdisk

wmp13 real

is it as fast as wmp12?

18:22

or is it still slow to start

Scamdisk

not really because 2 apps for the things wmp could do in 1

zune video could play movies and videos so what

18:23

also idk about the 10 one

stellar

Microsoft was the kind of company to let you attempt to install windows on literally anything

even on 10, but now we have funny windows 11 requirements troll

troll

frankly well, its groove/zune music with video support but still

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18:24

hmm

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18:25

the newer version really look like the same app

18:25

meanwhile the 8.0 versions

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xbox 360

hmmm yeah...

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18:27

they look the same

can you modify the loading dots from imageres.dll

18:27

in 8.1?

for what

to the 7 one

18:28

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no

18:29

that's handled by the font

font mod

4ktroll

18:29

wait

18:29

can fonts have high color

no

18:30

they are fonts

even on 10, but now we have funny windows 11 requirements troll

troll

@stellar unless you install nickel server build 22463, that doesnt have that funny requirements (edited)

inb4 they get enforced in the next build

lets see when the new server build comes out

19:01

after 22463

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19:09

Rounded off Metro UI in Windows 11... gosh.

19:11

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19:12

I love how it said "You're 0% there." XD

19:16

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pfft

19:16

when you want to download firefox but bing said:

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20:15

new pain(t)

20:22

tbh the new paint is fine

Menus/buttons are too large (edited)

they don't look too large

To me, they seem too large compared to old Paint

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20:25

And BTW, we're running the same build

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the old paint was too unfitting for 11 honestly

20:25

a 12 year old design..

That's true

and you can have the old mspaint by copying it from 8.x or even 7

And BTW, we're running the same build

@#RadMorning we, as in you and me? (edited)

21:45

mine is server

21:51

cuz of its "you aint gonna install this build cuz you have no tpm" philosophy of windows 11

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

And BTW, we're running the same build

@#RadMorning we, as in you and me? (edited)

Me and Sword

21:59

we share the same build

the Door guy

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oh hello windows "seven"

Would be cool if Microsoft made new versions of their existing applications

17:49

Notepad could defiantly be modernized

What's there to add, a tab bar?

that'd be a start

Maybe a dark theme but that's it.

17:53

Anything more is practically bloat, and microsoft sure loves those.

idk if they fixed it, but some files didn't display properly on notepad

Which types?

mostly config/script files

17:58

you have to open them up in Notepad++

17:58

otherwise they look like shite

.conf? Those display fine.

17:59

.ini are basic enough.

17:59

You might've meant one of the script languages, then you are getting into highly contextual files.

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